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I just activated it myself, no problems yet. I had it running right after Panther came out, and I never said "okay!" when it asked about reclaiming disk space, so I never had trouble.Originally posted by stefman
So has anyone been brave enough to turn on FileVault for the first time AFTER upgrading to 10.3.1?
Just curious if there is still issues.
I don't wanna be the guinea pig
I started getting paranoid at all the horror stories and turned it off. Now, after the update, it's back on. So far so good.
Since I'm running it on my iBook (and have my PowerMac for all the important things) I'll go ahead and reclaim the space if it ever asks me to (hasn't yet) and let you know if anything terrible happens.
Re: 10.3.1 = Dead iBook
I have seen that before. I would suggest you try reseting your pram
as i remember it, selecting the startup disk manually by holding the option key fixed that for me before
One of the situations I experienced this was when i was installing os x server on one partition and debian on another, so hope this is relevant.
good luck
I have seen that before. I would suggest you try reseting your pram
as i remember it, selecting the startup disk manually by holding the option key fixed that for me before
One of the situations I experienced this was when i was installing os x server on one partition and debian on another, so hope this is relevant.
good luck
Maxtor OneTouch FW400 still does not work
Upgraded to 10.3.1. Firewire drive still does not work... My office Wintel machine has worked more or less fine for a couple of years now... Apple needs to take reliability issues serious - think iPhoto capacity, finder breaking down with large number of files in a directory, memory leakages here and there, etc.
Upgraded to 10.3.1. Firewire drive still does not work... My office Wintel machine has worked more or less fine for a couple of years now... Apple needs to take reliability issues serious - think iPhoto capacity, finder breaking down with large number of files in a directory, memory leakages here and there, etc.
It's about time! My laptop has been running straight well into the double digit days, and I need an excuse to shut it down and clean it off once.
Re: Maxtor OneTouch FW400 still does not work
Update your firmware. The firewire issue is mostly hardware issue. Apple just released some drivers to help it out on it side but if your firmware is not updated it will not help at all.
Most folks started working well with just the firmware update.
Update your firmware. The firewire issue is mostly hardware issue. Apple just released some drivers to help it out on it side but if your firmware is not updated it will not help at all.
Most folks started working well with just the firmware update.
A hat is more than a hat
Panther 10.3 = Pre-release 7B85
But an installation of the 3 CD:s containing PR 7B85 is not the exactly the same as an installation of from the final release CD:s.
The installer CD:s do differ even if the System Core components are identical. Most obvious the CD:s differ in Classic and fonts but also other things were included in the final release.
I would not sleep well with the prerelease version installed.
Yes and No
Panther 10.3 = Pre-release 7B85
But an installation of the 3 CD:s containing PR 7B85 is not the exactly the same as an installation of from the final release CD:s.
The installer CD:s do differ even if the System Core components are identical. Most obvious the CD:s differ in Classic and fonts but also other things were included in the final release.
I would not sleep well with the prerelease version installed.
Developer Build
I'm running the developer build. I see the updage fine in software update.
Now I don't understand the logic that the developer build is siginificantly different from the retail build. Why would it have the same build number then, as the point of a build number is to differentiate and help you keep track of builds and build differences.
Yes the Developer CD and Retail CD will be slightly different as the Developer build comes as many downloads that you unstuff and create on disk image from. So if you compare a CD burned from that disk image and a Retail CD, chances are they won't be identical. The CD's that is won't be identical. I agree with Arn however that the software that installs should be the same for all intesive purposes.
I'm running the developer build. I see the updage fine in software update.
Now I don't understand the logic that the developer build is siginificantly different from the retail build. Why would it have the same build number then, as the point of a build number is to differentiate and help you keep track of builds and build differences.
Yes the Developer CD and Retail CD will be slightly different as the Developer build comes as many downloads that you unstuff and create on disk image from. So if you compare a CD burned from that disk image and a Retail CD, chances are they won't be identical. The CD's that is won't be identical. I agree with Arn however that the software that installs should be the same for all intesive purposes.
Re: A hat is more than a hat
The installation is identical... the CDs differ since the retail has OS 9 drivers.
If they weren't the same, developers would be screwed since they would be developing software for the wrong version... do you think they really pay that many thousands to get builds early for no reason?
The installation is identical... the CDs differ since the retail has OS 9 drivers.
If they weren't the same, developers would be screwed since they would be developing software for the wrong version... do you think they really pay that many thousands to get builds early for no reason?
Re: Re: A hat is more than a hat
Is this what you are assuming/guessing/hoping or what you have determined by checking? Did you run the unix diff command on the installers? Let me tell you that there are more differences than just the OS9 drivers between the last developer seed installation and the final release installation...
To answer your question, yes. I am a developer and 7B21 was fine enough for my development with some minor adjustments when the final version came out.
Still, the 10.3 system build itself is of course the same as 7B85 and it is likely that Software update will recognize it. But the installations are very similar but NOT identical.
They might or might not be similar enough for you.
Is this what you are assuming/guessing/hoping or what you have determined by checking? Did you run the unix diff command on the installers? Let me tell you that there are more differences than just the OS9 drivers between the last developer seed installation and the final release installation...
To answer your question, yes. I am a developer and 7B21 was fine enough for my development with some minor adjustments when the final version came out.
Still, the 10.3 system build itself is of course the same as 7B85 and it is likely that Software update will recognize it. But the installations are very similar but NOT identical.
They might or might not be similar enough for you.
My Panther hasn't arrived yet and it's already out of date I'm so sick of waiting that I've taken to getting it off BitTorrent, which has decided to go really slow. I can't win
I'm so sick of waiting that I've taken to getting it off BitTorrent, which has decided to go really slow. I can't win 
'Getting' software from BitTorrent
If you install the pirate version of Panther do us all a favour and do not post any complaints about your computer slowing down, FireWire drives corrupting, FileVault not working etc. Pirate software comes with no guarantees and if it leads to data loss then you would be getting what you deserve for using it.
Originally posted by Nermal
My Panther hasn't arrived yet and it's already out of date
If you install the pirate version of Panther do us all a favour and do not post any complaints about your computer slowing down, FireWire drives corrupting, FileVault not working etc. Pirate software comes with no guarantees and if it leads to data loss then you would be getting what you deserve for using it.
I still don't trust File Vault.
It froze up after I downloaded a song on Apple's iTunes Music Store.
Bad, bad integration! Apple programs are not supposed to lock up due to each other.
I had to delete my iTunes music data file, which made all my playlists dissappear. I was m-a-d.
Too many errors, this is most unlike Apple, as far as I can see!
Anyone agree?
It froze up after I downloaded a song on Apple's iTunes Music Store.
Bad, bad integration! Apple programs are not supposed to lock up due to each other.
I had to delete my iTunes music data file, which made all my playlists dissappear. I was m-a-d.
Too many errors, this is most unlike Apple, as far as I can see!
Anyone agree?
Re: 'Getting' software from BitTorrent
Honestly, I can understand the frustration.
I ordered my copy of Panther on the day it was announced (Oct 8). On Oct 29th when I got the message that it was delayed _yet again_ (and people on mac rumors who had ordered on Oct 27th were accepting deliveries, and I could see the boxes sitting in the store) I had pretty much decided f**k them and was going to get it off bittorrent so I didn't have to delay setting up my computer anymore. Fortunately they acutally shipped it on the 29th and I didn't have to do that.
Apple has a way of completely screwing up their priorities and driving people with good intentions to bad deeds. If he's ordered it and has gotten frustrated watching other people get Panther while he's still waiting, I can completely understand. I was there.
Of course if it's just an excuse to pirate, that's another matter.
Honestly, I can understand the frustration.
I ordered my copy of Panther on the day it was announced (Oct 8). On Oct 29th when I got the message that it was delayed _yet again_ (and people on mac rumors who had ordered on Oct 27th were accepting deliveries, and I could see the boxes sitting in the store) I had pretty much decided f**k them and was going to get it off bittorrent so I didn't have to delay setting up my computer anymore. Fortunately they acutally shipped it on the 29th and I didn't have to do that.
Apple has a way of completely screwing up their priorities and driving people with good intentions to bad deeds. If he's ordered it and has gotten frustrated watching other people get Panther while he's still waiting, I can completely understand. I was there.
Of course if it's just an excuse to pirate, that's another matter.
So far things look good, but I think I'll still give it another day or to, just to be on the safe side
I agree. Usually the .0.1 release is so big people complain about the size. This is just 10.3.0 - Take 2 in my thinking.
Installed the update in my eMac now, as well as my iBook G4, both hassle free. No glitches.
Repar permissions had quite a bit to do on the iBook (brand new, clean install yesterday) but came up clean on the eMac which has been running Panther for the last 2 weeks now.
I presume, like a good pair shoes, panther needs bedding in time????
Repar permissions had quite a bit to do on the iBook (brand new, clean install yesterday) but came up clean on the eMac which has been running Panther for the last 2 weeks now.
I presume, like a good pair shoes, panther needs bedding in time????
Repair Permission
I was having problems on my TiBook 400 with iTunes and iPhoto. I did a 10.3 upgrade and after the .1 update I finally remembered to repair permissions (oops). The crashing seems to have stopped.
Scott
I was having problems on my TiBook 400 with iTunes and iPhoto. I did a 10.3 upgrade and after the .1 update I finally remembered to repair permissions (oops). The crashing seems to have stopped.
Scott