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Mac OS X 10.3.2 Released

Re: update

Originally posted by fazel
I downloaded the update last night. Seems to be about the same speed wise once started. However, it has taken much longer to boot up since the update. I've rebooted several times since.
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10.3.2 always takes about three times longer to reboot than 10.3.1 on my iBook 600, not just the expected one-time slow reboot right after upgrading. This is unfortunate because now it takes even longer than Jaguar to reboot. With a verbose (command-V) reboot there's maybe a 30 second delay between the last console output and when loginwindow appears, awaiting input. Still haven't quite figured out why there's such a dramatic difference now.
 
Re: 12" G4 PB Rev A

Originally posted by niall2
Just called apple. Its officially a FEATURE. They are dealing with the heat this way and are trying to save your battery by keeping it cool.

Well, if that's true then bravo Apple! That sounds more like a fix than a problem to us. My girlfriend just got hers from Amazon a few days ago and it gets very hot after only 30 minutes or so of use. We'd trade having the fan run at all times anyday over the way it is now where you can literally fry an egg on the left side wrist rest area. It gets way too hot to set on your lap and hopefully this will fix that.
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I've noticed two new issues since updating last night:

screen had 3 colourful blocks about 70 percent across the screen to the right--two had single letters and since vanished

screen had dimmed without being set to do that but this later went away

This one still happens:

Residue from desktop file names
 
I have to say I am dissappointed in this update. I did wait and see some of the posting on here. After about 150 posts, though it seemed like some had no problems. I do run a clean system. Normally, in the past I have fallen in the "no problems" camp. Guess I got caught this time. Both my 17" imac and my new 17" powerbook both have increased start times by 50%. This is very frustrating on my 3 day old powerbook which would start up in just 50 seconds.

I don't notice any improvement in other apps starting on the powerbook, but did notice other apps take longer on my imac - including iphoto which I had hoped would be one app that improved. Since I don't re-start much I could live with longer start-up times if I made it up in application start-up times.

I hope Apple looks in to this. It was nice to get some speed improvement when I switched from Jag to Panther.
 
I installed the update on my new 1 ghz pb and it is running great. no speed problems. everythings is even runnig a bit faster and snappier.

And graphics are much faster. army ops is running great now!
 
Re. uv32's Temperature Monitor request

Downloaded TM, and have been running it for a while now.

Fan cuts in at 125.2F on a temperature rise, but doesn't cut out at that temp. when cooling. Goes off somewhere around 117, but I usually get fed up and put the PB (rev. a, 12in) to sleep beforethen.

Got to get a fix for this...


Tony @ The Register
 
Ok, I'm ready to install 10.3.2, so I repair permissions, install, reboot, and BAM! Flashing network icon, and no boot... This being the first quirk I've had with this system (my first mac ever) I was thrown, but it seemed harmless enough, so I figured it mis-read or corrupted a boot preference, so I do the zap the pram, and it boots fine and everything is good... just odd...

Now on to the main thing I was looking for with this update... the ATI graphics driver for my PowerBook G4 (1Ghz TiBook, radeon 9000 64MB)...

I've been getting graphics glitches in games ever since 10.2.4, and its still not fixed !!! I'd like to play some games, but the graphics suck, I'm not the only this happens to and it doesn't happen in 10.2.3 only 10.2.4 and up, so its not hardware.

See...
http://www.biaachmonkie.com/pbgraphicsglitches

There are examples of how this affects game play...
 
for those who still have a problem with sharing on a network, i had this problem but i managed to fix it by doing the following:

1. Open Directory Access (in Applications/Utilities).
2. If necessary, click the lock icon and type the name and password for an administrator user on your computer.
3. Double-click SMB in the list and type the workgroup name in the dialog, then click OK.

Can someone with this problem please let me know if it has any effect ?

Thanks
 
Results with my 12" Rev B

Well interesting results over the last couple of days. I initially had networking problems with 10.3.2, but today I started up finder and not only did all available networks populate really fast, but I can see all machines again! Interesting. Could it have anything to do with upgrading quicktime after the fact? It certainly shouldn't. I'm just happy everything is working again.

As far as performance goes, expose does seem more fluid. Particularly the show desktop feature. Everything else seems fine. I ran xbench and got 99-100 with 10.3.2 installed, whereas I was getting 89-90 with 10.3.1 so that's gotta be a good thing.
 
I've ran Xbench three times since upgrading and my highest score was 127.8, which is insanely high for a measly 1.25 GHz PowerBook, but when you check the results, just about all of the graphics benches seem to turn out a good 5-10 points higher than 10.3.1 ever yielded.
 
Knowledge Base 10.3.2 Document

For those having problems or people interested in the smaller things that have been fixed in 10.3.2

iPhoto is most probably faster due to the improvements in the Cocoa frameworks. This should be the same with every app as there have also been improvements to the Carbon frameworks as well.

For those complaining about boot time, why bother shutting down?

Its still a fast loading system when compared to XP-SP1 with Norton AntiVirus installed so whats it matter if it takes a little longer. Have a Coffee :)
 
Originally posted by encro
Knowledge Base 10.3.2 Document

For those having problems or people interested in the smaller things that have been fixed in 10.3.2

iPhoto is most probably faster due to the improvements in the Cocoa frameworks. This should be the same with every app as there have also been improvements to the Carbon frameworks as well.

For those complaining about boot time, why bother shutting down?

Its still a fast loading system when compared to XP-SP1 with Norton AntiVirus installed so whats it matter if it takes a little longer. Have a Coffee :)
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Being one of those people that bitched about start up times, I take exception to your "have a coffee" view on it. As I said in my post, for my iMac, I don't need to reboot much thanks to the stability of OS X - so your point is valid. But, on my brand new 17" powerbook I start up at least once a day - sometimes more depending on use and battery life. It is also a very clean system - I haven't installed anything other than Camino and 512MB of ram (total of 1GB). I find it frustrating a new laptop went from a 50-53 second startup to 1 minute 35-40 second startup. This is just not right. You would think Apple tested this update on a machine just like this and fixed it or at least noticed the problem. I could still live with it if the iapps worked faster, which was what I was hoping, and of course they don't. To be fair, I was aware this was a possibility based on the posts to macrumors and other sites. Doesn't stop me from being dissappointed and wishing updates would really speed things and throughly tested. There was an article on think secret a few days before 10.3.2 was released saying Apple wasn't asking for feedback indicating (to think secret) they were going for a quick release. They should have taken a little more time and fixed the speed issue IMHO.
 
Originally posted by macnews
But, on my brand new 17" powerbook I start up at least once a day - sometimes more depending on use and battery life.
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I don't restart my iBook except for Apple updates - went for 4 months once. Is there a reason you need to restart the 17" every day?
 
Originally posted by macnews
I have to say I am dissappointed in this update. I did wait and see some of the posting on here. After about 150 posts, though it seemed like some had no problems. I do run a clean system. Normally, in the past I have fallen in the "no problems" camp. Guess I got caught this time. Both my 17" imac and my new 17" powerbook both have increased start times by 50%. This is very frustrating on my 3 day old powerbook which would start up in just 50 seconds.

I don't notice any improvement in other apps starting on the powerbook, but did notice other apps take longer on my imac - including iphoto which I had hoped would be one app that improved. Since I don't re-start much I could live with longer start-up times if I made it up in application start-up times.

I hope Apple looks in to this. It was nice to get some speed improvement when I switched from Jag to Panther.
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Did you re-boot a second time after the forced re-boot to install the various system software?

Also, did you repair permissions?
 
Bumming Code

Originally posted by bousozoku
LOOP: MOVE #$01, D0
CMP #0, D0
BNE LOOP
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FYI, moves to a data register in the 68K will update the zero flag (and negative flag, too) automatically, so the CMP #0,D0 is redundant.

So by chucking that one line you'll speed up that infinite loop over 27%! What you do with that savings is up to you, of course.
 
Originally posted by razorme
I don't restart my iBook except for Apple updates - went for 4 months once. Is there a reason you need to restart the 17" every day?
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One reason I reboot my iBook 600 is to clean up swapfiles in /var/vm. Typically two remain after logout but at that point my working environment is gone anyway so I usually do a full reboot for a fresh start. Sometimes killing the right processes convinces dynamic_pager to remove swapfiles but so far that hasn't worked as well on Panther as it did on Jaguar.

OS X is memory-hungry and I'm looking forward to having a system that supports more than 640MB.
 
Re: Bumming Code

Originally posted by nteragator
FYI, moves to a data register in the 68K will update the zero flag (and negative flag, too) automatically, so the CMP #0,D0 is redundant.

So by chucking that one line you'll speed up that infinite loop over 27%! What you do with that savings is up to you, of course.
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Well, it didn't work that way on the 6502 and, I believe, the 65816, so I left it with the discrete line.

Thanks for the information, though. I'll have to tap your knowledge on PowerPC assembly later, as I move up in rank. :D

Maybe, if Apple move 27 percent faster, then my 1 infinite loop will, as well.
 
Originally posted by simply258
for those who still have a problem with sharing on a network, i had this problem but i managed to fix it by doing the following:

[...]

Can someone with this problem please let me know if it has any effect ?
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I've set the workgroup but still can't browse my wife's PC from my iBook so I have to use Connect to Server from Finder. Do I need a WINS server, too? Or maybe something in the Windows built-in firewall needs tweaking... I'll try temporarily disabling that later.
 
Re: Re: Bumming Code

Originally posted by bousozoku
Well, it didn't work that way on the 6502 and, I believe, the 65816, so I left it with the discrete line.
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Hmm, I didn't think the 6502 allowed direct comparisons between memory locations and constants. Didn't we always have to go through the accumlator or X/Y?

I must admit my 6502 assembly is a bit rusty though.

Loop:
LDA #$00 (A9 00)
BNE Loop (?? Don't remember BNE's code)

Should work and be even faster without the memory access!
 
Re: Bumming Code

Originally posted by stcanard
Hmm, I didn't think the 6502 allowed direct comparisons between memory locations and constants. Didn't we always have to go through the accumlator or X/Y?

I must admit my 6502 assembly is a bit rusty though.

Loop:
LDA #$00 (A9 00)
BNE Loop (?? Don't remember BNE's code)

Should work and be even faster without the memory access!
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You're not rusty. No direct comparisons were possible.

Ah, the memories. I did a lot of hand-coding on my Apple ][ before assemblers came along. Big Mac seemed like an incredible innovation at the time, but compared to modern tools, it's a stone axe. I guess that dates me . . .
 
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