Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Details

[JJTiger1]

Mac OS X 10.3 Panther Details

Whatever has happened to the Panther Details Rumors?
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Is there supposed to be a substantial difference with the new OS's display drivers, as compared to 10.2.4?
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... or has this discussion gone where no thread has gone before?

 

[Phazer80s]

Games n' stuff

Thanks for the replies Rincewind42 and nagromme.

While I yearn for an OS 9-style snap to OS X's interface (my single biggest complaint with OS X) I do realize there's a lot of business going on just to produce its AA text, alpha blending, scaling effects, etc. Perhaps it's time for a new megabucks Mac. Or somehting else...

I'm typing this in OS 9 for a change (had to use Photoshop 7, and can't stand the UI delays in OS X.) The speed is great, but the OS sure lacks some of the modern niceties of OS X.

So here's another question: can we reasonably expect Apple to optimize Panther to squeeze out better OS X performance on current hardware?

This system (a G4 733 with a GForceMX2 and a gig of RAM) is all Quartz Extreme-compliant and full of RAM and still misses mouse clicks, stutters with scrolling and resizing, etc. in Jaguar. I'm sure the next gen. processor, 970 or whatever, will handle OS X just fine, but will current G4 users be left in the ditch like G3 owners seem to be with OS X?:

 

[MacBandit]

Re: Games n' stuff

Originally posted by Phazer80s
Thanks for the replies Rincewind42 and nagromme.

While I yearn for an OS 9-style snap to OS X's interface (my single biggest complaint with OS X) I do realize there's a lot of business going on just to produce its AA text, alpha blending, scaling effects, etc. Perhaps it's time for a new megabucks Mac. Or somehting else...

I'm typing this in OS 9 for a change (had to use Photoshop 7, and can't stand the UI delays in OS X.) The speed is great, but the OS sure lacks some of the modern niceties of OS X.

So here's another question: can we reasonably expect Apple to optimize Panther to squeeze out better OS X performance on current hardware?

This system (a G4 733 with a GForceMX2 and a gig of RAM) is all Quartz Extreme-compliant and full of RAM and still misses mouse clicks, stutters with scrolling and resizing, etc. in Jaguar. I'm sure the next gen. processor, 970 or whatever, will handle OS X just fine, but will current G4 users be left in the ditch like G3 owners seem to be with OS X?:

Upgrade your graphics card and you will see a huge boost.

 

[blueflame]

i want apple toget rid of classic, i am sick of having 9 lagging around, why dont they just get rid of it entirely and completely have people focus on X.x 9 is outdated as far as OSs go anyway, stop tyring to keep the dead dog alive

 

[Phazer80s]

GUI speed= impression of overall speed

Originally posted by MacBandit
Upgrade your graphics card and you will see a huge boost.

That's reassuring. Any suggestions for those of us in the same single-processor boat? Will a 64-meg card be enough to noticably bring back the snap?

And to blueflame, I second your emotion.

 

[MacBandit]

Re: GUI speed= impression of overall speed

Originally posted by Phazer80s
That's reassuring. Any suggestions for those of us in the same single-processor boat? Will a 64-meg card be enough to noticably bring back the snap?

And to blueflame, I second your emotion.

If you just want snap get a Radeon 9000. If you want to ensure that you're video card isn't the bottleneck then get an Nvidia Geforce 4Ti.

 

[huzur]

Mind if I ask about some details on journaling, never herd of it.

 

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by huzur
Mind if I ask about some details on journaling, never herd of it.

check this out.

 

[huzur]

thanx

 

[john123]

Re: Re: Games n' stuff

Originally posted by MacBandit
Upgrade your graphics card and you will see a huge boost.

I have a Mobility Radeon 9000....still can't stand the slowness of OS X compared to OS 9....9 was faster on my old PowerBook 550 than X is on my PowerBook 1Ghz...

 

[MacBandit]

Re: Re: Re: Games n' stuff

Originally posted by john123
I have a Mobility Radeon 9000....still can't stand the slowness of OS X compared to OS 9....9 was faster on my old PowerBook 550 than X is on my PowerBook 1Ghz...

The GUI is slower but the system is faster. This will continue to be the case until they cut more of the fat. From what I have read there is a lot of fat cutting still to be done. Maybe a year or more left in developement just to get things optimized and down to fighting weight.