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Mac OS X 10.4: Tiger
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To upgrade from Windows ME (or 98) to Windows XP costs $99.
To upgrade from Jaguar to Panther costs $129.
Which is the better value? An upgrade from Windows ME is huge, so the cost is well worth it. An upgrade from 98 to ME wasn't much but at least it only cost $49.
The $300 cost people are saying is for the full version of Windows XP Professional. How much is the full version of Panther? I don't know because Apple doesn't sell it!
I've had Windows XP since it came out and it has NEVER crashed on me! I've had Panther for 2 months and it crashed on me once.
I don't want to come across as a Apple hater; I like OS X better than XP. I just want to clear some things up because I feel like you guys are being very unfair to Microsoft.
To upgrade from Jaguar to Panther costs $129.
Which is the better value? An upgrade from Windows ME is huge, so the cost is well worth it. An upgrade from 98 to ME wasn't much but at least it only cost $49.
The $300 cost people are saying is for the full version of Windows XP Professional. How much is the full version of Panther? I don't know because Apple doesn't sell it!
I've had Windows XP since it came out and it has NEVER crashed on me! I've had Panther for 2 months and it crashed on me once.
I don't want to come across as a Apple hater; I like OS X better than XP. I just want to clear some things up because I feel like you guys are being very unfair to Microsoft.
unfair to microsoft? hardly. it's quite the opposite.
apple can be sure every apple-brand computer has an os license available (and can therefore sell upgrades only), because apple can assume apple computers are bought for running macintosh in it. microsoft just cannot assume every pc built is bought for running windows, so it is just plain wrong for microsoft forcing all major pc makers to sell windows oem licenses with every pc built, because many of those will be bought with linux in mind. linux users will have to buy windows even if they will never use it, and that's unfair.
microsoft thinks everyone pirates their software. in my perfectly legal work pc (that has win xp) the "my computer" help-menu has an item that asks: "is this copy of windows legal?" thank god macintosh never asks that but instead smiles to me.
apple can be sure every apple-brand computer has an os license available (and can therefore sell upgrades only), because apple can assume apple computers are bought for running macintosh in it. microsoft just cannot assume every pc built is bought for running windows, so it is just plain wrong for microsoft forcing all major pc makers to sell windows oem licenses with every pc built, because many of those will be bought with linux in mind. linux users will have to buy windows even if they will never use it, and that's unfair.
microsoft thinks everyone pirates their software. in my perfectly legal work pc (that has win xp) the "my computer" help-menu has an item that asks: "is this copy of windows legal?" thank god macintosh never asks that but instead smiles to me.
Why would you want Windows? Only those who are nuts or stupid or being co-erced in some fashion use Windows.
There is treatment for all of these conditions, and sympathy too.
You cant LIKE windows - that would be the same as liking auto accidents, or earthquakes, or something.
Why am I getting pissed at this? I dont know, I am just SICK AND TIRED of the M$ thing.
I really wish Gates and his ilk would just F**K OFF.
"If all the people in the world paid one penny for each email, then we can get rid of spam."
He actually believes that sh*t! And we're supposed to say 'Thanks King Billy, you are a true genius, where would computing be without you?'
six billion cents per day is $360,000,000 per day.
Thats 2.5 Billion per week
Thats $130 billion a year.
You can see what Bill thinks about, cant you? And this guy thinks that we are UNFAIR to M$?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
God, what a rant. Sorry everyone, I just lose it with these trolls.
As Roger Ebert said:
Since any reasonable person would choose a Mac over a PC, Apple's market
share does provide us with an accurate reading of the percentage of
reasonable people in our society.
There is treatment for all of these conditions, and sympathy too.
You cant LIKE windows - that would be the same as liking auto accidents, or earthquakes, or something.
Why am I getting pissed at this? I dont know, I am just SICK AND TIRED of the M$ thing.
I really wish Gates and his ilk would just F**K OFF.
"If all the people in the world paid one penny for each email, then we can get rid of spam."
He actually believes that sh*t! And we're supposed to say 'Thanks King Billy, you are a true genius, where would computing be without you?'
six billion cents per day is $360,000,000 per day.
Thats 2.5 Billion per week
Thats $130 billion a year.
You can see what Bill thinks about, cant you? And this guy thinks that we are UNFAIR to M$?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
God, what a rant. Sorry everyone, I just lose it with these trolls.
As Roger Ebert said:
Since any reasonable person would choose a Mac over a PC, Apple's market
share does provide us with an accurate reading of the percentage of
reasonable people in our society.
Whotheheck said:
You have this the wrong way round. A full version of Panther costs $129. There is no upgrade pricing. The upgrade versions of MS software can only be installed if a previous OS version is found (so if you wipe your hard drive you have to install Win 98/ME and then use the upgrade to get XP). For $129 your Panther install CD will install the OS on a blank hard drive, or upgrade a previous OS version.
robbieduncan said:
No, all you have to do is put your 98/ME cd in when it asks for proof of you using an earlier version of Windows. No need to install it.
Knox said:
try installing panther on a partition that does not already have a Mac OS installed on it. Mine doesn't let me. I don't think I have a weird version of it either.
JFreak said:
being able to buy a PC with linux at wall-Mart isn't "major"? Who would want to buy a PC without Windows anyway? if you are pc savvy enough to use linux, you're probably building your own PC or buying a PC from a computer store like PC Club in which case they let you choose your OS. I don't see anyone going to BestBuy to get a Toshiba to run red hat linux or anything.
elgruga said:
So is it against board policy to post anything even remotly positive about microsoft? I'm not an Apple hater... hell, I'm posting this from my trusty little powerbook! posts where people reply by saying bollocks should be the ones filtered out. Please at least have something to add to the conversation.
FatSweatyChimp said:
My mistake. I used to have a 98SE upgrade CD that would only install if you had a previous installation of 95 or 98. It offered no chance to simply instert another CD to prove you owned it.
elgruga said:
Being a hard-core gamer, the # and quality of games between the 2 platforms don't even come close. Also, a lot of webpages don't work very well, if at all, under Mac. Sure, that's a sign of bad programming but there is nothing else we can do about it.
Even with that, I still use my mac more than my pc. actually, unless it's playing games or going to windows only website, I do everything else on my mac.
robbieduncan said:
If I remember correctly, it wasn't until Windows XP that would let you do that. If you have a Windows 98SE upgrade from Windows 98 1st edition, you could actually use that to install Windows XP! If you remember correctly, that upgrade disc was only $19!
So anyway... err... how's that tiger purring?
I'm sorry if someone's already been there....
But I'm thinking that Exon/Esso/Standard Oil might have a problem with Apple putting a Tiger in their Tank.
Of course there is a wider problem here.
If at any point they go for the fastest animal on earth, Cheetah, I think, then they'll have to dump the Cat thing and go with types of fish or something. There are rich pickings from Finding Nemo, like the blue fish which keeps forgetting release dates for hardware. The Shark who charges $499 for a small walkman. The Clown fish who keeps getting sued.
Meant in jest Steve, go go go Tiger.
But I'm thinking that Exon/Esso/Standard Oil might have a problem with Apple putting a Tiger in their Tank.
Of course there is a wider problem here.
If at any point they go for the fastest animal on earth, Cheetah, I think, then they'll have to dump the Cat thing and go with types of fish or something. There are rich pickings from Finding Nemo, like the blue fish which keeps forgetting release dates for hardware. The Shark who charges $499 for a small walkman. The Clown fish who keeps getting sued.
Meant in jest Steve, go go go Tiger.
