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My iMac G5 1st Generation has been upgraded and seems to have display issues. There are what i can only describe as lines of static running across the screen. Sometimes only a few intermittent and sometimes the entire screen is affected. Also at some stage my removable media drive has stopped being able to complete burning a disk, reporting a hardware error each time, part way through the process.

One bug that drives me nuts is Spotlight results which cant be sorted by label or file size, and i really don't care when a file was last opened! I'd like to sort by date created or modified (last saved). Also, iWork files and PDF files have strange file type names. This issue really makes this version of Spotlight seem like a Microsoft release. What was wrong with the previous Spotlight?

i just tried playing with display prefs and it seems like colorsync recalibrating of the monitor got rid of the static. lets see how long it lasts. Its strange that a software calibration would 'cure' it.
 
FIrst of, the new mac pro penryns are shipped with a different build than the public available 10.5.1.
Almost all Macs seem to ship with a version of the OS newer than the current version. I got a Mac Pro back in October that had a version of Mac OS with a build number somewhere between 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. Its pretty common for Apple to do this.
 
That sounds reasonable.

That was my though after the keynote. And, maybe not just multi-touch trackpads but the whole thing with Time Machine not supporting USB drives attached to Airport Extreme stations. I think they fixed this and will be part of 10.5.2 (and an airport extreme base firmware upgrade), but they are waiting for the Mac Book Air and Time Capsule to be released. If they do this, it would be a nice 'top secret feature'. (Let's not argue about the whole: 'were there, or weren't there secret features' :) )

At least one can hope.

Would it be possible that current mbs and mb pros have the capability of multitouch and that will be unlocked with the 10.5.2 update. That would make sense since the mba won't ship for the next 2 weeks. It may be that we will see the 10.5.2 update within the next 2 weeks along with new mb pros.
 
not so fast...

/Who honestly gives a flip about iTunes movie rentals?

Well, I know we expect Apple to focus on computers but there is something else in the air, and that is coming with videos and the Apple TV. Apple, with no real support from hollywood, using a lousy format, has sold more movies (7m) than Blue Ray (6m) or HD-DVD (2,5), and both formats started to sell movies a couple of months before Apple, and bundle movies by packs with each player.

With the iTunes movie rentals, we are in for another huge year from iTunes. Hopefully they will add movie sales (in HD as well and from all the new studios) as well as DRM-free music from all the big four. (these 4 by the way, will soon realize that it is their loss really not selling in iTunes. At the end Apple keeps selling iPods by millions, no matter (well, almost) where the music is coming from. And it is proven that people like the iTunes store better than any other one out there.
 
so what is the point?

do people complain that a sedan does not allow them to carry stuff like a pick up truck does?

They are different products for different markets.

Great little portable, but when you need a Macbook Pro for work only a Macbook Pro is capable enough to do the really big jobs. Editing, rendering, etc.
 
Macbook Air Features Already in Leopard?

Something a few other people have touched upon is what version of Leopard the Macbook Air is running, it appears it is running 10.5.1 however this is obviously a customized version of Leopard as it has the new trackpad gestures preference pane and remote disk built into the OS. So I am wondering are these extra patches that are added to Leopard exclusively for Macbook Air or are these options already in the version of Leopard we are all running on our regular Macbook's and Macbook Pro's? I am wondering whether we already have these features but they are currently locked, and only unlock when Leopard recognizes that it's running on a MBA?
 
Boy, I sure hope you meant anything OLDER, not anything NEWER, because that would really suck.

haha, I was thinking the same thing. The new pros better be able to run new versions of OS X or I'm returning it tomorrow :D

But this update can't some soon enough. I'm supposed to be starting on a paid editing job and just ordered Premier Pro CS3 to do it, but apparently it's still buggy in 10.5.1 (supposed to be fixed in .2).
 
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Personally, I see no issue with :apple: getting into the movie rental business. Seeing as how popular iTunes is, it will probably be very successful. What does that mean for the more 'aficionado' types? (ie, those of us who are actually involved in the Apple community) Well my guess is cash-flow, and profit for Apple and its shareholders (not me unless its in my 401k). And for us that means that Apple should have no problem putting money into R&D and acquisitions of companies such as Fingerworks which should help keep them innovative and on the cutting edge of technology.

As for multi-touch on existing platforms - my feeling is that its entirely feasible that in either 10.5.2 or a later firmware upgrade for keyboards/trackpads will introduce this technology beyond the Air. I believe this because my trackpad knows when I am using one finger, and it knows when I am using two fingers. It also knows when I am using more than two fingers, because it does not respond.

It makes sense for Apple to use Macworld, Macbook Air, and iTouch to debut the new technology. But if multi-touch is available for those two entirely different hardware, why not other touch pads?

The flipside of the coin however comes from the fact that the upgrade for the iTouch is not free. This is an interesting precedent for Apple, and only time will tell whether or not Apple will continue down this road. I am curious how the availability of an upgrade for iTouch users was communicated for those who are not in the know. I suppose that when devices were synced following the release of the upgrade, users were automatically taken to a page on the iTunes store announcing new features and requesting $20. Insight here is appreciated.

So if Apple is charging for that software, why not charge users for the ability to use multi-touch? From a business standpoint it seems rather lucrative.

Or perhaps lets say the multi-touch is hardware dependent. Hypothetically, Apple could have silently started including a more advanced touch-pad at any point over the last year without any of us being the wiser. Just because the Air leaked out of Apple's balloon doesn't mean they can't still keep some secrets. I will use myself as an example: I bought my macbook in November shortly after the hardware upgrade. Unless you are an electrical engineer who took apart two different laptops and closely examined the touchpad for some change which a layman like me could not identify, how would you know if it was any different? I do suppose an Apple Genius might notice, but then again they probably haven't had a chance to look at too many newer macbooks yet. Anyhow, if this is the case than you pro users are screwed - so I discount this theory, but its a fun one. :D

My last argument for multi-touch on existing platforms would be the ambiguity of the wording that Apple has been using since Tuesday about it.

As for functionality, since 10.5.1 and the recent software update of 12/18/07 it has been pretty much smooth sailing here. Before that I had to downgrade my security to WEP which I wasn't very happy about, not that I feel threatened in the least. I also experienced those crazy unresponsiveness issues which annoyed me to no end - but were fixed with the update. I do hope that 10.5.2 contains the bug fixes that I've read about here, even though I don't experience many of them, I don't ever want to either. The only one that is bugging me is SMB, since I have like 5-7 years of crap on my PC that I want access to without having to go install a firewire card for.

As for the upgrades, the 10.5.2 release - I peg it to be between Noon Wednesday 1/23 and Noon Thursday 1/24 PST, without multi-touch. I do see it being available, but only after Air has been available for long enough for the die-hards to go pick it up in retail. Lets say beginning of March - but I bet its ready now (that we may never know).

That was more long-winded than I thought. If I got anything wrong, please say so!
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Original iPod Nano 4GB
1 Windows PC that will never be upgraded beyond XP
(and pending fed stimulus package one hell of an HDTV)
 
Does anyone have the following 10.5.1 annoying issue:

In a window containing many folders (in folder view), you scroll down until you find a specific folder. You open that, do perhaps some editing, and then go back with the Back arrow. I would then expect the first window to remember the position to which I have scrolled down to, but it is always scrolled to its uppermost position. Annoying...

Anyone???
 
The previous seed of Mac OS X 10.5.2 re-introduced a list view to the Stacks.
Oh thank heaven. I've been on a couple friends' iMacs with Leopard, and not having a normal menu capability on Stacks is incredibly frustrating.

I personally use a highly customized configuration (see image below) and would be unwilling to "get by without it". Hopefully Apple has gotten off their "Stacks" high horse and put back in a much needed area of functionality.

Here's how my Mac dock is set up:


Internet Dock Menu:

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Applications Dock Menu:

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Games Dock Menu:

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Utilities Dock Menu:

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Network Dock Menu:

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Apple Menu Dock Menu:

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Another really annoying thing I want fixed, dammit, is navigating with the Command Key using the Folder icon at the top of a window.

It used to — in Panther, Tiger — to open your new location in the same window, it now opens it in a new window which isn't very productive and leads to more clutter.

Fix it now.
 
I can't (fully) replicate this, do you mean this navigation

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If so then I can get it to do both, for example keep holding down cmd and it opens in a new window, let go of cmd and it opens in the same window.
 
I can't (fully) replicate this, do you mean this navigation


OK, that's changed. It used to stay in one window when you kept on holding the command key down... it's something that bugs me as I move between work machines (Tiger) and home machine (Leopard).

Thanks for pointing that subtlety out. I'll adjust. :)
 
Network Dock Menu:

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Doesn't your Finder freeze up when you choose a network alias from the Dock?
What I ended up doing is making a folder full of AFP links. Open TextEdit and type afp://username@192.168.1.xx/ (whatever the IP address is to that machine) and then select that bit of text and drag it to the desktop. Bam, you got an internet link to that file. Basically when you click it from the Dock, it instantly connects you to the server rather than using a network alias.
 
No. It isn't. They charged for the update to make MacBooks and Mac Pros 802.11n capable.

http://www.news.com/Apples-802.11n-accounting-conundrum/2100-1044_3-6151790.html

Apple gets around this issue with the iPhone and :apple:TV by spreading the income from sales over the "lifetime" of the product. But not so the Touch.

Therefore, we can assume that every time there is a significant update to the iPhone/Touch software the Touch users are going to have to pay yet again. :(
 
TheSpaz:

Well, now that you come to mention it...

Yeah, the Finder is a fickle thing when it comes to networking. I'm not really sure why, but at a guess I'd say Apple's made too much dependent on the various processes that go forth. I've lost count of the number of times in the past I've had to force-quit the Finder, and this generally stands in stark contrast to how Mac OS X behaves otherwise.

I will tell you this much, though. I don't use AFP:// protocol requests. They tend to be rather flaky and, worse yet, sloooooooooow, particularly during the initial negotiation process.

What I use instead is cifs:// , and you'd be amazed how much faster it negotiates and gives me a list of shares to connect to. Of course, I also am using Samba to do my shares, and it's running on a real Linux installation (Debian Etch/PPC), so clearly your mileage may vary.
 
TheSpaz:

Well, now that you come to mention it...

Yeah, the Finder is a fickle thing when it comes to networking. I'm not really sure why, but at a guess I'd say Apple's made too much dependent on the various processes that go forth. I've lost count of the number of times in the past I've had to force-quit the Finder, and this generally stands in stark contrast to how Mac OS X behaves otherwise.

I will tell you this much, though. I don't use AFP:// protocol requests. They tend to be rather flaky and, worse yet, sloooooooooow, particularly during the initial negotiation process.

What I use instead is cifs:// , and you'd be amazed how much faster it negotiates and gives me a list of shares to connect to. Of course, I also am using Samba to do my shares, and it's running on a real Linux installation (Debian Etch/PPC), so clearly your mileage may vary.

Ah, well I use AFP links all the time and it's nice and fast for me as well as it doesn't make the Finder freeze up and hang.
 
Apple just seeded 10.5.2 C20, the new build comes in 2 packages. One combo updater at 350 MB and one Graphics Driver package at 50 MB. There are no known issues left with C20.
 
Thanks for that correction. Does that give more credence to the possibility of charging users for multi-touch?

Impossible to say. If it can all be done in software it [may fall under an update/fix of an existing feature - which they don't charge for. If I was Apple, i'd keep it just for the MBA and redesigned MBPs - then toss it out in an updated MB next year.
 
Apple just seeded 10.5.2 C20, the new build comes in 2 packages. One combo updater at 350 MB and one Graphics Driver package at 50 MB. There are no known issues left with C20.

Anything changed in the latest build?
 
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