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And without actual PVR capabilities, I think the :apple:TV will be a major disappointment to many of those who actually buy it, and a flop as far as overall sales go.

To me, in Australia, the AppleTV is simply INCAPABLE of showing TV without a PVR. Music, iPhoto slideshows, and movie previews - but there's no movie store.

We'll know more soon about how expandable (or not) the AppleTV is - after all, it is just a simpler PentiumM-based Mac running OSX withOUT the standard GUI. As such I'm not convinced that AppleTV won't have PVR capability via EyeTV, nor that it's not expandable with other codecs (DivX/XviD). We'll see soon.
 
I think it was sarcasm.

Yep. Surprised it took that long for someone to try it.

When it becomes available, it should be at this link though:

PowerPC
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1049comboupdateppc.html

or, if you have an Intel system:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1049comboupdateintel.html

Of course, Apple could change their site structure and post it somewhere else as well.

Until then, don't expect anything useful at those links.
 
I'm sick of waiting! I'm checking the MacRumors homepage at least 10-15 times a day; and Apple's website another 5-7 times, hoping for some news, a bit of light or something...but no, it's iPhone all over.
I think ThinkSecret is full of it.

I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed when tuesday comes around because for months we have all been expecting leopard to come out but i don't have high hopes for its release any time soon. the rumors sites suck at getting the release date right and no one is gonna know till the day of so i'm kinda just giving up on waiting for leopard unfortunately
 
so i'm kinda just giving up on waiting for leopard unfortunately

If you are planning to just go ahead and buy a new Mac now, I can guarantee you that on whatever day you purchase it, Leopard will be released immediately on the following day.

Go ahead and buy your new Mac. I'm tired of waiting for Leopard. Buy your Mac today so I can get Leopard tomorrow ;)
 
There's a black hole when it comes to Mac News lately. I'm dissapointed that we've not seen anything of Leopard since WWDC in August, if Steve would have told us then that you wouldn't hear or see *anything* else regarding Leopard for 6+ months then people would have wondered what's up.
 
There's a black hole when it comes to Mac News lately. I'm dissapointed that we've not seen anything of Leopard since WWDC in August, if Steve would have told us then that you wouldn't hear or see *anything* else regarding Leopard for 6+ months then people would have wondered what's up.

Yes, the long silence from Apple definitely gives the feeling that major changes are coming. No real computer advances, almost no computer updates, and basically nothing for 6 months now is quite unusual for Apple.

Usually, they update on a rotating schedule. But, lately, it seems as though they aren't doing anything.

Sure, they announced an over-priced phone. But, even that isn't really a big deal. It just makes them one more brand of phone offered by the cell phone companies. It doesn't really do much for advancing the Mac product line though.

O.K., here's the real secret. All the office lights at Apple are off. Everyone's gone home. They're just letting us buy-up the products as long as we are willing. Once we catch-on, they'll come forward and admit that we have seen the last of the Mac.

The one guy left handling orders is sitting in a big empty office with a full warehouse. His days are lonely as he sits by himself filling orders. But, he knows it won't be for long. He knows his last day is coming as well.

The poor guy.
 
I don't think the source can be that reliable if it confirmed a release date of March for Leopard.

I can't say to much because I develop for the Macintosh platform so my evaluation of the beta test of Leopard is covered by an NDA, so I can make no comment on the OS itself and how ready it is.

I'm running the 9A343 release that came out only a few days ago and I would put my money on it not being a March release.

Apple are making massive strides in the development of Leopard, but this is too an aggressive turn-around even for Jobs to pull off.

I saw this somehwere else and i'm still doubting it's release which really sucks:mad:

p.s. that was posted about 3 weeks ago
 
This better come out soon... it would be nice if apple did a windows and let us buy now promising an upgrade to leopard when it comes out.
 
I would pay $130 just for Time Machine.

And I'd give one or two body parts for the new Mail and iCal.

I'd also like to have an OS that was built for an Intel processor (Tiger was developed for PPC, then ported to Intel).

P.S. And compare the $130 for all the new cool stuff in Leopard vs. the $200-400 for the lame-excuse-for-an-upgrade called Vista.

Tiger is OS X... OS X is unix... Unix is a very portable operating system. Most of the code is written in a high-level portable language (C). Only a tiny percentage of the code is machine specific.

In other words, while OS X debuted on PPC, porting to other architectures is a trivial exercise in the grand scheme of things. It runs just as naturally today on Intel as it does on PPC.

Leopard may deliver some more performance optimizations, but I think they will go largely unnoticed, overshadowed by the new features.
 
Tiger is OS X... OS X is unix... Unix is a very portable operating system. Most of the code is written in a high-level portable language (C). Only a tiny percentage of the code is machine specific.

In other words, while OS X debuted on PPC, porting to other architectures is a trivial exercise in the grand scheme of things. It runs just as naturally today on Intel as it does on PPC.

Leopard may deliver some more performance optimizations, but I think they will go largely unnoticed, overshadowed by the new features.

Considering what people have posted of the virtual memory system statistics, I'd say the Intel version of Mac OS X doesn't run as naturally as the PowerPC version. Hopefully, Leopard will fix that because it seems to lead to more disk access than is necessary.

While Apple apparently had an Intel version running as long as the PowerPC version, they didn't have a wide range of real world field testing, as they do now with so many users.

By the way, please don't resort to insults. It's not necessary to make a point.
 
From an email sent out :
"With over 100 sessions devoted to Mac OS X Leopard technology and personal access to the engineers behind it, WWDC 2007 will be a critical stop for any developer on the road to a killer Leopard-ready application. And for IT professionals, there's no better place to go in-depth with Leopard and Leopard Server."

Note the word Leopard-ready. Does that mean Leopard won't be out by then ?
 
Note the word Leopard-ready. Does that mean Leopard won't be out by then ?
I suspect not. They can't say "Leopard compatible" because that engenders negative connotations of incompatibility. "Leopard ready" just seems to imply that it is ready (as in able) to take advantage of Leopard's features, not that it is ready for the eventual release of Leopard.
 
From an email sent out :
"With over 100 sessions devoted to Mac OS X Leopard technology and personal access to the engineers behind it, WWDC 2007 will be a critical stop for any developer on the road to a killer Leopard-ready application. And for IT professionals, there's no better place to go in-depth with Leopard and Leopard Server."

Note the word Leopard-ready. Does that mean Leopard won't be out by then ?

On the contrary.The email sent out and the new sessions descriptions themselves imply Leopard will have already been released when these sessions take place in June.
 
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