Absolutely, with the one possible caveat that "released" might not necessarily also imply shipping by WWDC.
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Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), iLife '07, and iWork '07 in March?
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well, don't forget about all those fun "secret features" that good O'l Steve hasen't told us about yet.
There's the little issue of the integrated calendar/contacts/mail. If you've ever tried to share a calendar with iCal, you'd know how sucky it is now and how excellent the new versions look.
And anyway... Time Machine in itself is worth $130. It is a very nice backup system and a revolutionary way to do restores.
And anyway... Time Machine in itself is worth $130. It is a very nice backup system and a revolutionary way to do restores.
The longer the wait the better
I was as surprised as anyone when Apple didn't even mumble a peep at Macworld about iLife, iWork, or Leopard. But the longer it takes, the more excited I get. It's only going to be that much better and or more stable if they take their time. Rushing products out the door isn't good for anyone. As the iLife updates have started to weaken of intensity over the years, I think a longer development cycle has been long overdue.
I was as surprised as anyone when Apple didn't even mumble a peep at Macworld about iLife, iWork, or Leopard. But the longer it takes, the more excited I get. It's only going to be that much better and or more stable if they take their time. Rushing products out the door isn't good for anyone. As the iLife updates have started to weaken of intensity over the years, I think a longer development cycle has been long overdue.
Ideally leopard should ship with a 200GB ext harddrive, infrared receiver for frontrow, remote, and a cloth to clean ure mac with like the one provided with my imac G4. These should all be standard or included in a Leopard Ultimate Version for like £50 more
Does anyone think Apple will release any new hardware before Leopard?
I did think that, but now that it's been so long (4 months) without a release, I'm wondering if Apple just wants to wait.
I don't really see the point, I mean they could market it for new computers afterwards, but their bit about Vista is that Leopard runs on old hardware too.
I do see the point for software that relies on Leopard, just not hardware.
-=|Mgkwho
I did think that, but now that it's been so long (4 months) without a release, I'm wondering if Apple just wants to wait.
I don't really see the point, I mean they could market it for new computers afterwards, but their bit about Vista is that Leopard runs on old hardware too.
I do see the point for software that relies on Leopard, just not hardware.
-=|Mgkwho
I hope so, though it's not like I will be buying any of it, it would just be nice to see.
Leopard, iLife 07, iWorks 07 - 5 licence family version. Cheaper than buying family versions of Leopard etc seperatly
oh yes, wouldnt that be amazing, tho im the only one who uses iLife so its not a big deal, but that would be a great deal for those.
Adobe is releasing CS3 at the end of March. Apple almost has to release new Mac Pros then.
April 1 is always a big day for Apple. It seems like a great day to release some new hardware... if not to "April Fools" us by releasing Leopard and iLife and the iPhone on April 1st.
I would be excited; except by then I might be dead. So in the meantime I think they should split that forty year upgrade cycle into smaller chunks like two years. They make enough progress in several years to merit a significant update. Microsoft taking over half a decade to release Vista should have meant they were unvieling the greatest leap of technology in the history of mankind. But instead it was nothing more than a fancy service pack for Windows XP that costs money.*
* denotes a ridiculous exaggeration.
I have been around on these forums during the development of Panther, Tiger, and now Leopard. For those of you interested, there is a distinct pattern. Every time, without fail, a significant number of users will always come out suggesting that the upgrade is either overpriced, insignificant, or unnecessary. They also always have one thing in common: they are mistaken. If you had listened to all the complaining and opinions on this forum since then, you would have come to the conclusion that there really isn't any big difference between Jaguar and Tiger! Which is ludicrous! Here are some obvious examples of the macrumors disease of oversimplification:
Panther Upgrade: "I'm not paying $130 for just Exposé and user switching!"
Tiger Upgrade: "Dashboard and Spotlight are really the only new features!"
Leopard Upgrade: "Time Machine? Is that all they can come up with?"
Look, an operating system is a huge piece of software and technology. There is allot more to it than meets the eye. Most of you are utterly clueless about the inner workings of Tiger; and ironically, these invisible things you have taken for granted have probably affected you more than the 'front-stage' features (like dashboard) that you thought were the most important.
Here is a simple analogy I'd like you to try on for size. The Macintosh operating system is almost like a car. There is vast difference between a 1960 Cadillac with 300,000 miles on it and a 2007 Cadillac with 50 miles on it. And guess what, at the end of the day, both cars will get you from point A to point B! But it would be idiotic for me to assume that there aren't other drastic ramifications to consider between the two. You can't oversimplify the situation and say that the 1960 model "does the same exact thing" and that "you would be wasting your money on a new one." If that's your philosophy, I suggest you save a few bucks and look into a used copy of Puma on Ebay.*
So, if you are new to the Macintosh operating system, and this will be your first upgrade, I advise you against taking the impressions of every obsurd notions that Leopard is anything less than earth shakering; because it is!!!
* slight exaggeration for affect
Actucally you're not far wrong. I've been running Vista for nearly a year now (I'm a beta tester) and I'm pretty sick of the OS to be honest. The little innovation that it does have over XP has been largely ripped off from other sources, it's a resource hog and it has the most irritating security system. It astounds me that OSX is a far more advanced OS yet at the same time runs on a lot less system resources.
I can't wait to buy my first Mac as soon as Santa Rosa MBs are released (along with Leopard of course).
There Will Not Be An iLife etc. '07 The Next iLife Will Be Called iLife '08
I doubt there will be an iLife/iWork '07. The release is late enough to skip '07 and call them iLife/iWork '08. That way they don't have to come up with more features in only 6 months and the name will work until January 2009 MacWorld Expo on the eve of the Lion 10.6 OS X release.
I doubt there will be an iLife/iWork '07. The release is late enough to skip '07 and call them iLife/iWork '08. That way they don't have to come up with more features in only 6 months and the name will work until January 2009 MacWorld Expo on the eve of the Lion 10.6 OS X release.
Alternatively they could release iLife/iWork '07 so and skip an '08 version. Although personally I prefer your scenario.
I doubt there will be an iLife/iWork '07. The release is late enough to skip '07 and call them iLife/iWork '08. That way they don't have to come up with more features in only 6 months and the name will work until January 2009 MacWorld Expo on the eve of the Lion 10.6 OS X release.
yeah i think this is whats gonna happen.....or least i hope it happens...
I do agree with you for the most part, but that analogy is ridiculous. A car with 300,000 miles is a piece of crap and will die soon. An operating system that has been out for a few years, and has receive numerous updates and improvements, is nothing like an old car. Tiger is still a great operating system and leopard, although great, will need some time to work out bugs (yes there will be bugs).
So, *old piece of crap car vs brand new car* is nothing like *tiger vs leopard*.