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SNOW LEOPARD FINDER?!?!?!!? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

where is the quick look button? :p
 
Help on leopard in ibook G 4

I have tried to install leopard on my ibook G 4 - After 12 hours of seemingly no porgress - just a leopard screen with progress or curser I switched it off - cant get the disc out, cant move on, cant install - any ideas...
your help and advice appreciated
Should the installation take so long? I am too impatient? What should I do next?
Cheers..
 
I have tried to install leopard on my ibook G 4 - After 12 hours of seemingly no porgress - just a leopard screen with progress or curser I switched it off - cant get the disc out, cant move on, cant install - any ideas...

First of all, this is absolutely the wrong thread in which to post this question. You might want to start your own thread under Mac Forums > Apple Hardware > Notebooks -> Macbook, iBook.

But before you do that, you should go to http://mroogle.*************/ and search, for example, for "iBook Leopard install problem". You'll find lots of threads with information that might be helpful, like this one:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/573541/

If you can't find enough help there, start your own thread. But also include more information, like memory size & CPU speed of your system, disk capacity and what was on it previously, any messages seen during the install, etc.
 
Apple's updated the iMac, the mini and the Mac Pro - they're not pushing it as changes towards Snow Leopard, so the next generation are more likely to be more Snow Leopard capable. No redesign to accomodate Tylersberg, but an internal change. How much we'll know shortly.
Could there be a March 24th event? Leaves Apple open to have a "The spotlight turns to OS X" at the WWDC.

So what was the "pleasant surprise Slashgear talked of? here and probably before slashgear, here

Seems macosrumors has some explaining to do. And decent Tallest Skil threads - new ones for the Mac Pro 2010? We can hope :)

Evolutionary, not revolutionary today.

Mac Pro: Direct Apple Tech specs here
Quad/Octo-core Intel Xeon “Nehalem” processing power, up to 32GB of ECC memory:
# 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 series processors
# Quad-core: One 2.66GHz or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 3500 series processor

Quad–core model packs a NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 graphics card 512MB of GDDR3 as standard.
Can upgrade to ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory. ("up to 2x faster performance compared with the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120")

The Performance section pits the old 3.2Ghz (with 8GB RAM) against the 2.93GHz whippersnapper (6GB) RAM (Would the difference affect the comparison?)(it's seen on the Performance page also - in the 3D, Video, Technical Computing, Science & Imaging & Graphics sections, hardware performance, Graphics cards, & RAID card section).

GT setup:
Mac Pro 8-core 2.93GHz 6GB of RAM (The new machine, with the better speeds throughout the stats on the Performance section)
ATI Radeon:
Mac Pro 8-core 3.2GHz 8GB of RAM

Anyway, the HD 4870 is an improvement -
256-bit vs 128-bit memory interface
512MB GDDR5 vs Frame buffer memory 512MB GDDR3
115GB/s vs 25.6GB/s Memory bandwidth
Takes 2 slots, uses 2 auxillary power cables.

And I imagine it's OpenCL enabled....Just how enabled, we'll see - seeing as the Mac Pro lifecycle is a fair old time, Snow Leopard will hopefully sit on these for the time being.


4 slots of PCI Express 2.0 16 lane bus.
Double wide graphics slot.
Slide out processor tray holding memory in place. No digging around.
Quad-core Mac Pro offers 4 slots that support up to 8GB of 1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
Octo-core Mac Pro offers 8 slots that support up to 32GB (speed presumably as above)


iMac?
ATI Radeon HD 2600 graphics controller with 256M of RAM has gone.
Nvidia GeForce 9400M integrated graphics chip arrived.
2G of SDRAM is now the DDR3 instead of DDR2. Memory is expandable to 8G rather than 4G.


Goodbye AMD graphics chipsets. Hello Nvidia. The 2 lower end iMacs 20-inch & 24-inch use the same Nvidia GeForce 9400M integrated graphics chipset seen in the MacBook & MacBook Air. The 2 higher models use discrete grpahics GeForce GT 120 with 256MB of memory & GeForce GT 130 with 512MB of RAM.

mini?
Nvidia graphics - GeForce 9400M integrated chipset - 128MB or 256MB of shared memory for graphics.
(Pretty neat design too - http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2009.html)

Anyone wonder what this box is, under embargo? http://i.gizmodo.com/5162911/what-is-inside-this-huge-mystery-box - Gizmodo's toying with their readers. It's not a portable, not a TV. So that'd make it a desktop screen? A lot of tea? Is it still under embargo?
 

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New build (10A286) and a announcement/release rumor (June 8th)

9to5mac story about Snow Leopard. With some slightly twisted logic, David Zeler from the Baltimore Sun looked at Moscone bookings, and the only big one he can see in the summer is a week - June 6-12, currently entitled "Corporate Meeting". This gives possible dates for WWDC. If you assume Snow Leopard is to be announced and launched at WWDC, then that's your date. (which has been a long held assumption for many, going > 5 months back - really going back all the way to Jobs at WWDC 2008).

First of all, I’m assuming Snow Leopard’s release will coincide with WWDC

Ye, it does take a small leap of faith to go from the below picture for example, to saying Snow Leopard is coming June 8th (is the word release used? versus just announced?) By that logic, Apple's releasing something else May 27/28 in Moscone West the but ohehe. http://fortuneapple20.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/picture-24.png But 9to5mac thinks May late is a Google event. Could have a connection to Apple, we don't know.

New Build 10A286
Released today (previous build Feb 23rd, so 11 days ago. (See previous post about build release timings here))

QuickTime Player
New QuickTime Player with a new minimal UI, & is focused on on playback

Finder
Finder includes a new Cocoa Desktop, Info Window & Contextual Menu

Safari
Default browser iSafari 4 beta is included in the seed as the default browser.

Known Issues
2 main ones:
* Hibernation is not working on machines with Nvidia graphics cards and will result in a frozen machine.
* We do not recommended installing this seed on the Nehalem Mac Pros.
Apple may well launch the iPhone version 3 prior to the 2 year end of contract date.


Roughlydrafted Snow Leopard article
With more info too is Eran from roughlydrafted.com here:

* 10.6 is looking to have a "variety of advanced text related features across all applications that use Core Text"
* Automatic spell correction that will simply replace some mis-spelt words once the user hits the spacebar.
Text expansion will also perhaps come:
"Users will be able to define a list of phrases or long words that will be automatically substituted when the user types a given character sequence. For example, 'MOSX' could be designated to expand to 'Apple's Mac OS X operating system' "

Eran's take on the WWDC dates is here (seeing a May 16-22 booking under "Corporate meeting" also...)

So - I think we might see some baseless rumours for May 16-22. Will Apple break out the previous tracks? (does Daniel mean May, or June? Semes there is a difference of opinion - the booking page shows only a 12-21 in May for American Psychiatric Association Annual Meeting.)
Mac OS X development, mobile software for the iPhone and iPod touch, and an IT administration track to give the iPhone it's own week, and then cover Snow Leopard in another?

Should Apple indeed be planning to hold the conference in early June again this year, an announcement should be forthcoming sometime in the next two weeks.

10.5.7
In other news, AppleInsider reports that developers will see "as early as this weekend" a new build of the maintenance and security release, 10.5.7 "according to people familiar with the matter."

"The target build is said to be Mac OS X 10.5.7 build 9J27 -- again, this could change at any time.". 10.5.7 has been kept mostly in-house with devs not seeing too much - this might, or might not link to what Apple is going to do regarding new Mac Pros, iMacs and running Leopard versus Snow Leopard later on. Apple's not going to offer Leopard users all the cool stuff Snow Leopard has - that's the point of 10.6 Snow Leopard! (e.g. Leopard 10.5 will v. likely won't see Grand Central for example)

Apparently there were 21 builds before 3rd party coders saw 10.5.7 build 9J22 about a week ago - so it's a relatively build update, and people will soon be able to see the rate of progress Apple is doing for what might be one of the final (few) 10.5.x updates for Leopard. Then it's 10.6's time to get the limelight internally at Apple, and soon... for mere plebians.

We'll see what the new build shows for the focus on testing, and how many issues it has, as a suggestion to rate of progress on Snow Leopard in a way - if Apple is motoring through wrapping up working on Leopard, it might indicate that they're gearing to focus nearly solely on sorting out Snow Leopard soon.

The fact that the current 10.5.7 build says "don't put on new Mac Pros" (with the new Mac pros being Nehalem) is, well, potentially a red herring. Make of that what you will!

So will Mac Pros ship with 10.5.6? Will they get 10.5.7? Will we see new stuff very soon, because of what's coming with the Nehalem Mac Pros? The article points out:

Mac OS X 10.5.7 is publicly mentioned on Apple's online store as a prerequisite for the ATI Radeon HD 4870 Graphics Upgrade Kit for owners of previous generation Mac Pros. After the blunder was widely reported, Apple changed the page to indicate that the card required 10.5.6, which is actually the case for the just announced Mac Pro, which will ship with a custom milestone of 10.5.6 that includes the appropriate driver support.

With standalone orders for the $349 card not expected to ship for another 5-7 weeks - that'd make an April Time Frame. So they could have a separate 10.5.7 for the new Mac Pros prior to Snow Leopard, apart from the 10.5.7 for other Macs.

They've possibly internaly referenced "the 10.5.7 "point" release in some circles as "Juno" or project Juno." Relevant? Well, if they have uber secret plans, perhaps. Might just be a naming convention - Juno's easier to say that tenpointfivepointsevenforthenewMacProsonly all the time.

(AppleInsider points out "earlier point releases from major OS X releases of years past were named after colors, where in one instance during the Mac OS 9 era they were named after red wines.")

So who thinks the new Mac Pros are going to get a bespoke 10.5.7 and that Apple will start having to spill some information soon about progress with Snow Leopard? Or that the rate of work on 10.5.7 is an indicator useful for tracking Snow Leopard? It's not the be all in the scheme of things, but it can sate some Apple related rumor curiousity. In other news, has Apple bet big with GeForce 9400M and Nvidia? Wondering about new MBP reports. Minority issues? If grpahics cards are going to be used for Snow Leopard, they sure as hell need to be functional, capable, and not having issues.

New 10.5.7 build out
10.5.7 9J27 is out, a week after 9J22
Slashgear is passing on the rumour that APple is intensifying its efforts to get Snow Leopard out before Windows 7.

Microsoft has confirmed Windows 7 will not support Blu-ray movie play-back without adding 3rd party media software.


2008 MacBook Airs and MacBook Pros to get 4 finger multitouch gestures it seems from loooking at latest Snow Lopeard build:
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/0...multi-touch-gestures-to-original-macbook-air/
 

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Would it be fair to say that if all computers want to be faster, not only would they need better CPU performance but also have to have SSD's? Because we all know that the biggest bottleneck for the computer is the Hard drive and the only way you could increase performance when using a mechanical hard drive is with SCSI HDD's. Since they're far too expensive for most people to buy (unless you're a professional or you work for a big company/organisation which they would purchase the SCSI HDD's) it would appear that SSD's are certainly the way to go. So, my question is: wouldn't research/development for increasing SSD's storage capacity and performance will have to be faster than Intel's "tic-tock" stragegy in order for SSD's to be commonplace among manufacturers such as Apple?
 
Hey I have a question for you guys regarding Adobe CS4.

People have been asking me if they should go out and purchase it. With me personally I'm not buying any updated programs until 10.6 comes out and have been warning people to do the same.

Will CS4 work on 10.6? Are my fears that it won't work warranted?
 
Hey I have a question for you guys regarding Adobe CS4.

People have been asking me if they should go out and purchase it. With me personally I'm not buying any updated programs until 10.6 comes out and have been warning people to do the same.

Will CS4 work on 10.6? Are my fears that it won't work warranted?

I see no real point in waiting for CS4 on Snow Leopard. It isn't even 64-bit.

CS5 will be, though. Who knows when Adobe will get around to that.
 
Inital Mac Pro benchmarks on front page of Macrumors:

The early GeekBench benchmark for the Nehalem system gave a whopping total score of 17,665, placing it at the very top of the list of all GeekBench 2 scores. The previous #1 placeholder was a Sun Microsystems Sun Fire X4450. This also eclipses the results of the previous top-of-the-line 3.2GHz 8-core Mac Pro which delivers a score as high as 11,030 but with many results in the 9,000 range. As expected, the largest gains in the new systems revolved around multi-threaded functions and memory performance.

http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/

VoiceOver - interesting. This could move into all sorts of things...
 
Hey I have a question for you guys regarding Adobe CS4.

People have been asking me if they should go out and purchase it. With me personally I'm not buying any updated programs until 10.6 comes out and have been warning people to do the same.

Will CS4 work on 10.6? Are my fears that it won't work warranted?

It may or may not work, the problem is that CS4 (and the versions before it) are written on the Carbon framework and that'll be apparently dropped in the 64-bit Snow Leopard. With that said CS4 is also a rather ****** with its fake windows and overall "we just hacked this together" feel on both Windows and OSX. See http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/
 
Apple's updated the iMac, the mini and the Mac Pro - they're not pushing it as changes towards Snow Leopard, so the next generation are more likely to be more Snow Leopard capable.

Probably out of my depth in this thread and forgive me for not reading all the posts in their fullness....

Is the move to NVIDIA integrated graphics helpful to SL?

For example, when SL is installed on a new (2009) iMac, will it gain a significant performance boost against the previous generation? Does it gain the GPU as a 3rd core? Or do we simply not know yet?
 
Probably out of my depth in this thread and forgive me for not reading all the posts in their fullness....

Is the move to NVIDIA integrated graphics helpful to SL?

For example, when SL is installed on a new (2009) iMac, will it gain a significant performance boost against the previous generation? Does it gain the GPU as a 3rd core? Or do we simply not know yet?
My understanding is that yes, the changes WILL help SL perform better, particularly for the Mac Mini and MacBook. The nVidia graphics are GPGPU-ready whereas the old ones were not.
 
OS 3.0 next Tuesday - If OS 3.0 is linked to 10.6 more than 10.5 we might be seeing a new build v. soon. Getting concurrency, video, potential compass etc in there will give more to the SDK, but it might also need some more time in the hands for developers. The growth in the iPhone could well create the need for additional developer time, or a larger stream at WWDC.
Regarding GPU - Apple has had enough time to work out what it wants in it's current lines prior to 10.6 coming out, especially those that can't upgrade their graphics.

Google Latitude - hits Snow Leopard Address Book, iCal? Fantasy or possibility?

We haven't really heard about what Snow Leopard will bring to the Enterprise. Maybe through the SDK we'll see some more of this. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/ gave us quite a lot.

NAB's coming too - with a 10 year anniversary for Final Cut Pro. Surely the apps most needing concurrency would include those crunching HD? With a potential event in April, maybe we'll see more about this, Phenomenon, Aperture...
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...lease_new_final_cut_studio_near_nab_show.html

e.g. 7 minutes in, Phil talks about Exchange support - Snow Leopard is rolling some baked in, and rolling some of it's own features. Looking at the list of features Phil went through that they added last year - it was pretty meaty. It does seem silly to be asking for MMS and cut and copy, versus the below. They opened up the same APIs and tools that Apple used. They talked about Mac OS X about 21 minutes in - i'd imagine they could talk a bit about how it's going to change.
Where is Cocoa Touch going vs Cocoa - if there is a tablet - then it'll be likely 10.6 modification? Or will all 10.6 Macs have the capability for a multitouch centric way of working?
So you can expect rumors on this - e.g. http://theappleblog.com/2009/03/12/...ake-its-way-into-a-new-high-end-mini-macbook/

Richards says “insiders” have told SmartHouse that Apple is using a new version of their operating system software that incorporates a synergy of iPhone and MacBook capabilities, and that the fruit company has also recently been in discussions with Sony about licensing OLED technology into notebooks.

23:50 - contacts core services
Address Book
SQLite
Core Location
Media (quicktime X)
Video playback, core animation (almost every animation in the iPhone is Core Animation apparently)
Hardware accelerated.
All these things for the iPhone relate to 10.6 for the Mac.


Interestingly, in iTunes, we're already seeing some stealth convergence - Apple may well soon be muscling in more in the downloadable /streamable video area by adding Genius recommendations. Will we see more?

Wu Woes
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342884,00.asp
Wu is predicting a delay on Snow Leopard. A delay on an unfixed date. Here we go again...
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mac-OS-X-10-6-Snow-Leopard-May-Be-Delayed-Analyst-Says-106656.shtml

10.5.7
One week on, and there's a new build - 9J30
 

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Snow Leopard's pending release is holding up my next computer purchase. However, it's probably for the best anyhow.

If I were in charge at Apple, I'd be ensuring my people were beating the living h*ll out of 10.6 before releasing it.

This is the same for me, I'm waiting to purchase a new iMac, and think it would be better to wait fo SL to be released.

Does anyone have any good idea of when SL is due out? If it's not for a while yet, I may just 'bite the bullet' and get an iMac now.
 
Current expectations are a WWDC June 8th or so announcement/update/release - within a month or so we'll have a better idea.

Missed this the 1st time I read:
Macrumors mentions:
there has been evidence in the latest version of Snow Leopard's CoreLocation framework (which is shared by the iPhone) that Apple is building in support for magnetometers, which could suggest the use of a digital compass in future devices, much like the Android G1.

So that would mean a HUGE deal.

Adding a compass brings Knowing where North is, and also what direction the phone is facing, bringing potential for:
- (Better) Sat Nav capabilities

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7269096/

Picture attached is from page 1 Macrumors - the difference between single and multithreaded. I'd expect Apple's new software for video editing to be multi-core optimised to an extent, that or some degree of Grand Central able to kick in.
 

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Core Duo and snow leopard

I have a first gen macbook with a core duo processor. Am I screwed when snow leopard comes along? It's only a couple of years old. I don't want to be locked out of new versions of the mac os.
 
Prediction point

Ok. If people want to put down their summary prediction of
When: (announcement of release, release date)
Where: On just Macs? A netbook or iPhone version?
What: Features, what it runs on
How much: Cost for 2 versions.

as Tuesday might have some more info linked in with 10.6, and a prediction after the event isn't really a prediction! Any thoughts?

Those Moscone West meetings still haven't changed and added any more details...

A late rumour - we're going to see some Tele Atlas/ TomTom / Google / Apple action tomorrow.
 
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