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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - What, Where, When, Why & How much
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A videoscreen cast walk through of. Few features in 10A261 - 2 builds old. Interesting to see some of the Marble iTunes style theme coming in.
What do you hope to see in Snow Leopard and beyond?
Here's my list:
Here's my list:
- System Python updated to 2.5.4 at the very least
- JDK/JRE 4 gone, JDK/JRE 6 made the system-wide default
- Xcode 4: Better tools for large, distributed projects
- QuickDraw and all its legacy tools removed
- All Apple apps (particularly those that come with Mac OS X) 64-bit native/ready
I can assure you that both Python 2.6 and 3.0 is included. (wxpython is no longer included)
I thought the YouTube channel that WANKEY just posted is bitchin.
If you go to the channel it shows some minor tweaks which are needed. Like how Finder windows use Spotlight (Big annoyance if you're in a certain folder, and you use the built-in Spotlight and searches your entire Mac).
Also, there's a video on Quicktime X.
If you go to the channel it shows some minor tweaks which are needed. Like how Finder windows use Spotlight (Big annoyance if you're in a certain folder, and you use the built-in Spotlight and searches your entire Mac).
Also, there's a video on Quicktime X.
Those Mac OS X blues
So what is still being complained about, in OS X 10.5? HIG = Human Interface Guidelines
There's a nifty thread here started by Doctor Q, about such things. The main points:
Size of windows shown in Exposé
Not enough games
Issues with Finder (lots, e.g. more column fields to sort by in list mode, lack of boolean search, hassle using it)
Beachball in Safari when loading
Closed hardware/software
Level of keyboard shortcuts
Switching GPU on unibody pros
Some drivers, such as those for HP printers (Some don't work, when they say they do) and video drivers.
Lack of Vista's Network map function
Not being able to keep 1 window full screen, whilst doing something on another screen (when dual or more screening)
Handling multiple monitors in general
The contentious ones
Level of customisation (or apparent ease)
How OS X handles others:
- Microsoft interaction - e.g. Entourage
- Adobe interaction e.g. Flash's (9?) power/CPU usage
(Both these have Spaces issues, and are culprits in many program crimes)
Window's menus are at the top of the screen (it's a preference, and quite arguably better)
Resolution Independence, hidden folders...
Save dialog box. Lack of ability to rename, copy, cut, paste, delete files in the save dialog box as much or at all as you can in Windows
Apps don't close if you close the window. Sometimes.
MSN in iChat (any word on the direction of iChat in relation to SL and iPhone?)
UI issues
Green + button doesn't cause an app to go full screen (usually developers misusing the function as pointed out).
Folder drag and drop (Move/copy) is move and overwrite, rather than move and merge (like Windows. And there isn't an exact cut and paste equivalent in OSX -Window's move is like a copy, paste and then auto-delete (one man's kludgy is another man's useful feature)
Inability to resize windows from any edge (more issues )
Back to those buttons - close, minimize and maximize buttons -they're small.
That double click to minimise the window - how about a double click with Option key to maximise it to full screen?
No major ground breaking show stoppers beyond *that* wireless issue. Non-merge way of moving files is a pain, but not as big as the issue of inconsistent wireless. Many issues are actually solvable, or have work arounds, and are pointed out by users on a point by point basis in the thread. I like Tesselator's take: - seeing the pros and cons as states of version and feature requests. As IJ Reilly mentions, it is interesting to see that many of the things boil down to "it isn't Windows."
There are other articles like this one, about such things. Leopard isn't perfect. But you can convert Windows die hard gurus with it, example here. It's got room to improve on features it has, and add ones it lacks. Nice to see a few pointers along the thread, like "being able to drag a document along the Dock to see which applications can open it." to show there are fun things to find out about OS X even if you've been using it a while.
Will we see the ability to at some level micromanage program core usage or set priorities?
Parallelisation
An article by Tom Yager here
Seems pretty quiet on SL - awaiting, according to the recently floated timeline graphic. With the issue of Safari beta, for 10.5.7, and also Snow Leopard build currently, is this indicative of a new beta, or Safari 4 going out of beta, when 10.5.7 comes (imminently)? Will we see the "core component update" build in April, or by mid May?
10.5.7 builds:
14 April 9J50 build
10 April 9J47 build
06 April 9J44 build
29 March 9J39 build
21 March 9J34 build
13 March 9J30 build
07 March 9J27 build
~27 Feb 9J22 build
So what is still being complained about, in OS X 10.5? HIG = Human Interface Guidelines
There's a nifty thread here started by Doctor Q, about such things. The main points:
Size of windows shown in Exposé
Not enough games
Issues with Finder (lots, e.g. more column fields to sort by in list mode, lack of boolean search, hassle using it)
Beachball in Safari when loading
Closed hardware/software
Level of keyboard shortcuts
Switching GPU on unibody pros
Some drivers, such as those for HP printers (Some don't work, when they say they do) and video drivers.
Lack of Vista's Network map function
Not being able to keep 1 window full screen, whilst doing something on another screen (when dual or more screening)
Handling multiple monitors in general
The contentious ones
Level of customisation (or apparent ease)
How OS X handles others:
- Microsoft interaction - e.g. Entourage
- Adobe interaction e.g. Flash's (9?) power/CPU usage
(Both these have Spaces issues, and are culprits in many program crimes)
Window's menus are at the top of the screen (it's a preference, and quite arguably better)
Resolution Independence, hidden folders...
Save dialog box. Lack of ability to rename, copy, cut, paste, delete files in the save dialog box as much or at all as you can in Windows
Apps don't close if you close the window. Sometimes.
MSN in iChat (any word on the direction of iChat in relation to SL and iPhone?)
UI issues
Green + button doesn't cause an app to go full screen (usually developers misusing the function as pointed out).
Folder drag and drop (Move/copy) is move and overwrite, rather than move and merge (like Windows. And there isn't an exact cut and paste equivalent in OSX -Window's move is like a copy, paste and then auto-delete (one man's kludgy is another man's useful feature)
Inability to resize windows from any edge (more issues )
Back to those buttons - close, minimize and maximize buttons -they're small.
That double click to minimise the window - how about a double click with Option key to maximise it to full screen?
No major ground breaking show stoppers beyond *that* wireless issue. Non-merge way of moving files is a pain, but not as big as the issue of inconsistent wireless. Many issues are actually solvable, or have work arounds, and are pointed out by users on a point by point basis in the thread. I like Tesselator's take: - seeing the pros and cons as states of version and feature requests. As IJ Reilly mentions, it is interesting to see that many of the things boil down to "it isn't Windows."
There are other articles like this one, about such things. Leopard isn't perfect. But you can convert Windows die hard gurus with it, example here. It's got room to improve on features it has, and add ones it lacks. Nice to see a few pointers along the thread, like "being able to drag a document along the Dock to see which applications can open it." to show there are fun things to find out about OS X even if you've been using it a while.
Will we see the ability to at some level micromanage program core usage or set priorities?
Parallelisation
An article by Tom Yager here
Seems pretty quiet on SL - awaiting, according to the recently floated timeline graphic. With the issue of Safari beta, for 10.5.7, and also Snow Leopard build currently, is this indicative of a new beta, or Safari 4 going out of beta, when 10.5.7 comes (imminently)? Will we see the "core component update" build in April, or by mid May?
10.5.7 builds:
14 April 9J50 build
10 April 9J47 build
06 April 9J44 build
29 March 9J39 build
21 March 9J34 build
13 March 9J30 build
07 March 9J27 build
~27 Feb 9J22 build
New 10.5.7 build today, now at 9J56. It comes with 5 more fixes adding to now over 110 fixes, mostly bluetooth fixes, some Time Machine shares fixes for AFP and Personal File Sharing volumes, and other minor fixes which added more information to certain crash logs.
Safari 4 beta still remains the only bug.
Source
10.5.7 builds:
22 April 9J56 build
14 April 9J50 build
10 April 9J47 build
06 April 9J44 build
29 March 9J39 build
21 March 9J34 build
13 March 9J30 build
07 March 9J27 build
~27 Feb 9J22 build
Safari 4 beta still remains the only bug.
Source
10.5.7 builds:
22 April 9J56 build
14 April 9J50 build
10 April 9J47 build
06 April 9J44 build
29 March 9J39 build
21 March 9J34 build
13 March 9J30 build
07 March 9J27 build
~27 Feb 9J22 build
Mac OSX SL
I'm personally looking forward to advancements in to macbook pro and hopefully a cheaper macbook pro. However since that doesn't seem likely I would hope for more expandability in the new macbook pro and hopefully the eight hour battery will be standard. On another note the price of Macbooks went up from the previous version, do you have any idea why?
I'm personally looking forward to advancements in to macbook pro and hopefully a cheaper macbook pro. However since that doesn't seem likely I would hope for more expandability in the new macbook pro and hopefully the eight hour battery will be standard. On another note the price of Macbooks went up from the previous version, do you have any idea why?
Snow Leopard, iPhone take shape in the background
Quicktime X Player
Will likely have screen recording. Macrumors article here from Sam Oliver's article here
The 'Screen recording' option found in the file menu of the Snow Leopard Quick Time X Player is akin to Ambrosia Software's Snapz Pro X utility (or Screenflow - a great program i'd recommend).
The option will apparently "allow users to capture in motion video their Mac's screen -- essentially video screenshots." The article didn't know if the feature had been included prior to the most recent build.
Will this expand to do iPhone video screenshots? Even if it doesn't it'll certainly help those in education, demonstrations for presentations and pitches, tutorials etc. This might well link in with the iPhone video creation capabilities coming soon. This is a feature above and beyond their stated optimisation of support for modern audio and video formats to get efficient media playback...
With NVidia and Nero announcing that Nero Movie can use NVIDIA's CUDA to encode HD video (e.g. from HD to iPhone size) at 5x the speed, i'd imagine that multiplier will increase as the cards get faster over the year, and involve OpenCL also (Nvidia having released an OpenCL driver recently).
No doubt iMovie and Final Cut Studio will see this (we're awaiting an update which might take this up OpenCL to a decent extent, and iLife 2010 perhaps). With NVidia's OpenCL driver now out, we're seeing progress - with the speed Apple pushed through OpenCL there's no doubt a lot of behind the scenes we're not yet fully seeing.
More here. Speaking of Nvidia there's a new architecture for GT300 -
"the new GT300 chip has the potential to impress everybody in the industry with the level of performance it can achieve. However, we still have to wait until we see the first samples of NVIDIA's next-gen GT300, which will most likely be available in the form of the GeForce GTX 380" softpedia. More on MIMD and SIMD etc here.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/04/23/gt300-to-feature-mimd-architecture/1
Interesting side-news about Bluetooth 3.0 - A likely technology we may well see in the v3 iPhone - with 802.11n likely in the phone, it'll be a decent speed for interacting with Macs. On another side-note - Apple may well have been waiting for Bluetooth's update before getting a slate style Mac out. y opening up the connector, and the wireless connections to the iPhone in OS 3.0 beta, it bodes well for paving the way for a slate with sensor related options. Apple could do an app market for the slate perhaps? With a tablet likely to be useful in the medical field, being able to interact with applications and devices would be huge - doesn't seem that these separate threads have been been put together yet by some.
There's a Mac tablet that could do EMR - and then there's a device that you could roll out to every ward round to interact with patient's medical devices ECG, blood pressure readings etc. Fraught with ethics, security issues and more. But the hardware and software is coming together to make it possible.
Safari 4
Is incompatability with Safari 4 a bug, or just the state of play, which relates to 10.6, 10.5.7 and how Apple deals with the timing of bringing everything out in concert? Seeing as Apple wants Safari compatible content - i'd imagine they want it ready before it starting to impact on iPhone development. When will Apple want developers to move towards Safari 4 compatible? Are there more features (e.g. HTML5 features) that aren't yet included in the current Safari 4 beta?
Snow Leopard Server and iPhone
Is anyone able to talk about how much of Snow Leopard's 10.6 features will in some way feature in iPhone?
Core OS, Core Services, Media layer, Cocoa touch layer
e.g. update to Core Animation, OpenGL and OpenCL updates...
e.g. UIKit's Accelerometer - will it soon have magnetometer full 3 dimension position and acceleration data? Or Core Location update.
Interesting article on Appleinsider by Sam Oliver - how Apple can leverage the use of iPhones in the Enterprise to push additional value when using Snow Leopard server. SL Server has recently been reported as having some new features added/updated - e.g. Podcast Producer (which will include allowing remote management of cameras over the web using a Mac, PC or iPhone), "new junk mail filters in Mail Server, better automated account creation in Calendar Server, and completely re-written certificate management code".)
(Previous article on PNS and Snow Leopard server here and here).
The article states that 10.6 will deliver business users with Mobile Access services - "to securely deliver corporate email, contact, calendar, and intranet web services to iPhone and iPod touch users far more cost effectively than Microsoft Windows Server."
The "Remote Access", which is on the current Snow Leopard Server page, merely talks about it as a mix of new "push notifications to mobile users outside your firewall" with a proxy service providing "secure remote access to email, address book contacts, calendars, and select internal websites."
Sam's done some legwork on the session previews (which I haven't got round to yet) and has found that some previews add some details about the proxy service, and calls the service "The Mobile Access Server" which "provides a path through a corporate firewall for IMAP, SMTP, HTTP, and CalDAV without using VPN."
Currently, a mobile device usually first initiates a secured VPN tunnel to the company's private network, then is able to access resources (e.g. internal websites/wiki/messaging service). Apple currently provides support for VPN in iPhone OS 2.0 - iPhones can connect to Cisco & Microsoft VPN servers.
The article sees 10.6 server being positioned as an alternative in delivering remote access services to mobile devices (e.g. iPhones), with the benefit of potentially lower costs to a business using SL Server.
Apple's demonstrated that they've been setting up PNS for the iPhone to be hugely scalable (after having a nightmare initially and underestimating the size and difficulty of the task).
"According to sources familiar with Apple's plans, Mobile Access uses a proxy server to provide remote mobile users with "always on" security they won't need to manually connect with when needed"
I'll quote the next bit too:
Apple should have a firecracker of a server with the new XServes with 10.6. If they can efficiently bring the benefits of OpenCL and Grand Central Dispatch to the server space, it's an attractive proposition.
With the popularity of iPhones, it'll bring more interest in Snow Leopard Server. Apple may well push it more than normal at future Snow Leopard event(s) - if businesses and organisations are integrating iPhones in a big way, it might make a lot more sense to start getting some XServes too.
10.6 will be able to virtualise Microsoft's Windows Server, and add other benefits on top afaik - so you could have your cake, and eat it.
In this market, Apple really can show that Microsoft charges a lot more (primarily from their large license charges), but that Apple may well soon give a lot more value for money, especially for larger user numbers.
Fast Company, zdnet's take...
Blast from the past
The move to Intel in 2005. 2005 - Bonjour was just coming on the scene for Windows, iTunes 4.8 or so, videos were just being able to be purchased, the PS3 was just being unveiled.
Paul Thurrott wrote about Apple moving to Intel April 26th- bit of a throw away line during his coverage of WinHEC:
23 May - WSJ says Apple is moving to Intel. Contains get out clauses. Cnet writes the story up too.
Fri 03 June - Cnet: “Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips article.
Sat 04 June - Intel-Apple Odds and Ends
WSJ seconds Cnet here
I’ll See You Intel - "It can’t just be that they’re switching for kicks. It’s not performance"
Monday 06 June
- WWDC keynote
- Bombs Away "This announcement has caught both Apple’s customers and the rest of the industry by surprise."
The switch to Intel was like a recurring rumor, then it happened. Curiously, Thurrott mentioned swirling unsubstantiated rumors of a tablet back in 2005...Another interesting tidbit -
"According to Markoff, Apple went with Intel because it would allow Mac users to dual-boot their systems with Windows in order to take advantage of the huge collection of Windows games out there"
"An Intel processor inside a Macintosh could put the vast library of Windows-based games and software programs within the reach of Mac users - at least those who are willing to run a second operating system on their computers.
Moreover, having Intel Inside might solve an important perception problem that has long plagued Apple in its effort to convert consumers who are attracted to the company's industrial design, but who have stayed away because the computers do not run Windows programs.
Should the new [IBM PowerPC/Cell-based video game] consoles find wide acceptance as broad-based entertainment engines, Intel will need to respond - and one attractive alternative would be an inexpensive Macintosh Mini based on an Intel processor, able to run the vast library of PC games."
"Sony's top executives had tried to persuade Mr. Jobs to adopt a chip that I.B.M. has been developing for the next-generation Sony PlayStation ... Mr. Kutaragi tried to interest Mr. Jobs in adopting the Cell chip"
It's a pet thought - but I can't shake the feeling =Apple's done some quiet/skunkwork on refactoring their code for concurrency. We'll see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghdTqnYnFyg "Just in case"
Quicktime X Player
Will likely have screen recording. Macrumors article here from Sam Oliver's article here
The 'Screen recording' option found in the file menu of the Snow Leopard Quick Time X Player is akin to Ambrosia Software's Snapz Pro X utility (or Screenflow - a great program i'd recommend).
The option will apparently "allow users to capture in motion video their Mac's screen -- essentially video screenshots." The article didn't know if the feature had been included prior to the most recent build.
Will this expand to do iPhone video screenshots? Even if it doesn't it'll certainly help those in education, demonstrations for presentations and pitches, tutorials etc. This might well link in with the iPhone video creation capabilities coming soon. This is a feature above and beyond their stated optimisation of support for modern audio and video formats to get efficient media playback...
With NVidia and Nero announcing that Nero Movie can use NVIDIA's CUDA to encode HD video (e.g. from HD to iPhone size) at 5x the speed, i'd imagine that multiplier will increase as the cards get faster over the year, and involve OpenCL also (Nvidia having released an OpenCL driver recently).
No doubt iMovie and Final Cut Studio will see this (we're awaiting an update which might take this up OpenCL to a decent extent, and iLife 2010 perhaps). With NVidia's OpenCL driver now out, we're seeing progress - with the speed Apple pushed through OpenCL there's no doubt a lot of behind the scenes we're not yet fully seeing.
More here. Speaking of Nvidia there's a new architecture for GT300 -
"the new GT300 chip has the potential to impress everybody in the industry with the level of performance it can achieve. However, we still have to wait until we see the first samples of NVIDIA's next-gen GT300, which will most likely be available in the form of the GeForce GTX 380" softpedia. More on MIMD and SIMD etc here.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/04/23/gt300-to-feature-mimd-architecture/1
Interesting side-news about Bluetooth 3.0 - A likely technology we may well see in the v3 iPhone - with 802.11n likely in the phone, it'll be a decent speed for interacting with Macs. On another side-note - Apple may well have been waiting for Bluetooth's update before getting a slate style Mac out. y opening up the connector, and the wireless connections to the iPhone in OS 3.0 beta, it bodes well for paving the way for a slate with sensor related options. Apple could do an app market for the slate perhaps? With a tablet likely to be useful in the medical field, being able to interact with applications and devices would be huge - doesn't seem that these separate threads have been been put together yet by some.
There's a Mac tablet that could do EMR - and then there's a device that you could roll out to every ward round to interact with patient's medical devices ECG, blood pressure readings etc. Fraught with ethics, security issues and more. But the hardware and software is coming together to make it possible.
Safari 4
Is incompatability with Safari 4 a bug, or just the state of play, which relates to 10.6, 10.5.7 and how Apple deals with the timing of bringing everything out in concert? Seeing as Apple wants Safari compatible content - i'd imagine they want it ready before it starting to impact on iPhone development. When will Apple want developers to move towards Safari 4 compatible? Are there more features (e.g. HTML5 features) that aren't yet included in the current Safari 4 beta?
Snow Leopard Server and iPhone
Is anyone able to talk about how much of Snow Leopard's 10.6 features will in some way feature in iPhone?
Core OS, Core Services, Media layer, Cocoa touch layer
e.g. update to Core Animation, OpenGL and OpenCL updates...
e.g. UIKit's Accelerometer - will it soon have magnetometer full 3 dimension position and acceleration data? Or Core Location update.
Interesting article on Appleinsider by Sam Oliver - how Apple can leverage the use of iPhones in the Enterprise to push additional value when using Snow Leopard server. SL Server has recently been reported as having some new features added/updated - e.g. Podcast Producer (which will include allowing remote management of cameras over the web using a Mac, PC or iPhone), "new junk mail filters in Mail Server, better automated account creation in Calendar Server, and completely re-written certificate management code".)
(Previous article on PNS and Snow Leopard server here and here).
The article states that 10.6 will deliver business users with Mobile Access services - "to securely deliver corporate email, contact, calendar, and intranet web services to iPhone and iPod touch users far more cost effectively than Microsoft Windows Server."
The "Remote Access", which is on the current Snow Leopard Server page, merely talks about it as a mix of new "push notifications to mobile users outside your firewall" with a proxy service providing "secure remote access to email, address book contacts, calendars, and select internal websites."
Sam's done some legwork on the session previews (which I haven't got round to yet) and has found that some previews add some details about the proxy service, and calls the service "The Mobile Access Server" which "provides a path through a corporate firewall for IMAP, SMTP, HTTP, and CalDAV without using VPN."
Currently, a mobile device usually first initiates a secured VPN tunnel to the company's private network, then is able to access resources (e.g. internal websites/wiki/messaging service). Apple currently provides support for VPN in iPhone OS 2.0 - iPhones can connect to Cisco & Microsoft VPN servers.
The article sees 10.6 server being positioned as an alternative in delivering remote access services to mobile devices (e.g. iPhones), with the benefit of potentially lower costs to a business using SL Server.
Apple's demonstrated that they've been setting up PNS for the iPhone to be hugely scalable (after having a nightmare initially and underestimating the size and difficulty of the task).
"According to sources familiar with Apple's plans, Mobile Access uses a proxy server to provide remote mobile users with "always on" security they won't need to manually connect with when needed"
I'll quote the next bit too:
Apple should have a firecracker of a server with the new XServes with 10.6. If they can efficiently bring the benefits of OpenCL and Grand Central Dispatch to the server space, it's an attractive proposition.
With the popularity of iPhones, it'll bring more interest in Snow Leopard Server. Apple may well push it more than normal at future Snow Leopard event(s) - if businesses and organisations are integrating iPhones in a big way, it might make a lot more sense to start getting some XServes too.
10.6 will be able to virtualise Microsoft's Windows Server, and add other benefits on top afaik - so you could have your cake, and eat it.
In this market, Apple really can show that Microsoft charges a lot more (primarily from their large license charges), but that Apple may well soon give a lot more value for money, especially for larger user numbers.
Fast Company, zdnet's take...
Blast from the past
The move to Intel in 2005. 2005 - Bonjour was just coming on the scene for Windows, iTunes 4.8 or so, videos were just being able to be purchased, the PS3 was just being unveiled.
Paul Thurrott wrote about Apple moving to Intel April 26th- bit of a throw away line during his coverage of WinHEC:
23 May - WSJ says Apple is moving to Intel. Contains get out clauses. Cnet writes the story up too.
Fri 03 June - Cnet: “Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips article.
Sat 04 June - Intel-Apple Odds and Ends
WSJ seconds Cnet here
I’ll See You Intel - "It can’t just be that they’re switching for kicks. It’s not performance"
Monday 06 June
- WWDC keynote
- Bombs Away "This announcement has caught both Apple’s customers and the rest of the industry by surprise."
The switch to Intel was like a recurring rumor, then it happened. Curiously, Thurrott mentioned swirling unsubstantiated rumors of a tablet back in 2005...Another interesting tidbit -
"According to Markoff, Apple went with Intel because it would allow Mac users to dual-boot their systems with Windows in order to take advantage of the huge collection of Windows games out there"
"An Intel processor inside a Macintosh could put the vast library of Windows-based games and software programs within the reach of Mac users - at least those who are willing to run a second operating system on their computers.
Moreover, having Intel Inside might solve an important perception problem that has long plagued Apple in its effort to convert consumers who are attracted to the company's industrial design, but who have stayed away because the computers do not run Windows programs.
Should the new [IBM PowerPC/Cell-based video game] consoles find wide acceptance as broad-based entertainment engines, Intel will need to respond - and one attractive alternative would be an inexpensive Macintosh Mini based on an Intel processor, able to run the vast library of PC games."
"Sony's top executives had tried to persuade Mr. Jobs to adopt a chip that I.B.M. has been developing for the next-generation Sony PlayStation ... Mr. Kutaragi tried to interest Mr. Jobs in adopting the Cell chip"
It's a pet thought - but I can't shake the feeling =Apple's done some quiet/skunkwork on refactoring their code for concurrency. We'll see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghdTqnYnFyg "Just in case"
Sure. YARR, for example (the new regex jit, replacing the existing safari 4 regex jit). This sort of thing is pretty easy to find out, since it's all public.
how far are we from release? Those who test the snow leopard can you tell us how stable it is now? How is the grand central etc. now? I'm sure we will probably hear about it in a month on WWDC but those enlighten to test it could you tell us where do you think it is now in terms of release etc.?
Thanks
Thanks
Going off the Appleinsider article here, and taking the graphic measurement to be representative of which week they'll push the next build, it indicates a build within a fortnight or so.
But the graphic doesn't match the text:
There's not been anything more about this "core component build" Key build 1 to my knowledge since the article. It had 10.5.7 as remaining on track for an April release.
25 Oct 2008 10A190
5 weeks
04 Dec 2008 10a222
8 weeks
04 Feb 2009 10A261
4 weeks
06 March 2009 10A286
4 weeks
02 April 2009 10A314
3 weeks
23 April 2009 10A355
3 weeks makes 12 May, 4 weeks: 21 May
Will we see a continued increase in the frequency of builds like in previous OS versions? Is the AppleInsider article pointing against that? Would interesting to hear from others where they see Snow Leopard going and where it is now (especially GCD and OpenCL, and why it's been so quiet about Quicktime X).
So this is probably a stupid question or in the wrong thread but will it work with my mom's intel mini (core 2 duo) and my brother's MBP (core 2 duo non unibody)? I know that gpu's have a lot to do with it and theirs aren't as powerful as my unibody's. I'm really excited for it, I'll either be at an apple store the day it comes out or I'll pre order it if I can.
Nobody knows. You have to wait till WWDC to see what the system requirements might be.
well, whilst it is true that system requirements haven't yet been released you can say with certainty that it will run on core 2 duo based macs. the general indications so far are that ppcs aren't supported, but all intel machines are, even core solo boxes as far as i'm aware.
Well of course, otherwise there would be no computers for it to run on.
Will it run on 32bit Core Solo or Core Duo? I didn't see anybody say that. Will this be the first 64bit only OS? Will it have PPC support or not?
Too many questions that needs to be answered by WWDC.
The post you quoted answered your questions - nothing official yet, likely no PPC support but probably all Intel systems including 32-bit. Personally I don't expect Apple to move to exclusively 64-bit until 10.7.
Unofficial guesses doesn't answer my question, that's why i keep emphasizing nobody knows until Apple answers it.
I know it is unlikely there will be PPC support, I know it probably can work on 32bit CPU Intels and probably won't go 64bit exclusive for another 1-3 OS major versions.
There's no point of dragging this on.