Should handle Leopard easily. A bit light on the graphics side but so are many of the new Intel machines.
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Mac OS X 10.6 to Drop PowerPC Support?
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Should handle Leopard easily. A bit light on the graphics side but so are many of the new Intel machines.
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This is mere speculation right? And not from Apple.
Apple, if you are thinking about it, don't do it. It would mean legacy machines drop in value and it thus becomes more difficult to buy an intel machine.
Apple will lose customers by this move.
Apple, if you are thinking about it, don't do it. It would mean legacy machines drop in value and it thus becomes more difficult to buy an intel machine.
Apple will lose customers by this move.
What is obsolete?
The USER defines obsolete, not Apple. A product is obsolete when it no longer does what it was originally implemented to do, period. My G3/400MHz that runs 10.4.10 is not obsolete to me nor will it be obsolete when 10.5 comes out simply because it still functions just fine for what I originally implemented it to do, run AFP and NAT.
I highly doubt Apple would cut off G5 users so soon. I've got a 1.6 G5 that is still VERY relevant in the computing world.
Maybe in another 2 versions or so Apple would drop PPC support, who knows. I'm pretty sure that in 2-4 years, I'll have the cash to buy a new Pro, so why is it an issue? If your so concerned about it, save your pennies kiddies, in 2 years you should have enough.
The USER defines obsolete, not Apple. A product is obsolete when it no longer does what it was originally implemented to do, period. My G3/400MHz that runs 10.4.10 is not obsolete to me nor will it be obsolete when 10.5 comes out simply because it still functions just fine for what I originally implemented it to do, run AFP and NAT.
I highly doubt Apple would cut off G5 users so soon. I've got a 1.6 G5 that is still VERY relevant in the computing world.
Maybe in another 2 versions or so Apple would drop PPC support, who knows. I'm pretty sure that in 2-4 years, I'll have the cash to buy a new Pro, so why is it an issue? If your so concerned about it, save your pennies kiddies, in 2 years you should have enough.
With Steve Jobs record of dropping older technology when he introduces new technology I'm personally surprised that they are bringing out a PPC version. I agree with those that believe that there is a lot of life left in many of the PPC models. If I didn't have to run Windows so much in my business & at school I'd be perfectly happy with my PPC Macs.
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If we're working to 2009 for 10.6 then our hypothetical G5 will only be 4 years old. Still worth an OS upgrade.
AltiVec still has superior permute operations among a few others. SSE4 brings some additional instructions that close this gap.
Dual Core G5s might be at the bottom of OS 10.6 support
Shortly before Apple started migrating their hardware to Intel systems, they shipped G5 iMacs and low to midrange G5 Towers with Dual Core G5 processors. Now Apple is touting multiple core optimization in OS 10.5.
I think it is possible that OS 10.6 will support as far back Dual Core G5 machines. If OS 10.6 does not support the Multiple Core G5s, it will be a great waste of very powerful and recent hardware.
Shortly before Apple started migrating their hardware to Intel systems, they shipped G5 iMacs and low to midrange G5 Towers with Dual Core G5 processors. Now Apple is touting multiple core optimization in OS 10.5.
I think it is possible that OS 10.6 will support as far back Dual Core G5 machines. If OS 10.6 does not support the Multiple Core G5s, it will be a great waste of very powerful and recent hardware.
well...
my guess is this:
G3 support and some G4 support will disappear with Leopard
G4 support and some G5 support will disappear with 10.6
More G5 support will disappear with 10.7, leaving only high-end G5s working
PPC support completely gone with 10.8, which could be 11, to "celebrate" the end of the PPC chip
my guess is this:
G3 support and some G4 support will disappear with Leopard
G4 support and some G5 support will disappear with 10.6
More G5 support will disappear with 10.7, leaving only high-end G5s working
PPC support completely gone with 10.8, which could be 11, to "celebrate" the end of the PPC chip
I completely did do my research on the Intel machines. I didn't want any new adopter hassle. I know PPCs and for a girl, I know how to tear my machines apart pretty well short of soldering. I didn't want to play the Rosetta game. I like the fact that my 12" PB is, as of this writing, the smallest lappie Apple has made. I thought my old 145b was running 8 but I could've been wrong. If I was running 7 or some variant, it ran the same for me in my line of work as 9. I was actually very surprised and disappointed that the brand new 2500 dollar Tibook I bought in August 2001 ran exactly as slow on Word and other programs as my 1994 vintage 145b, in fact, Word runs just as slow on my latest computers (I've owned about 30 Macs since 2001, btw) as it did on that old 145b. If I get used to a computer, I like to stick with it. I have about 25 friends who I've personally switched from Windoze and who are on varying vintage machines -- mostly iMac G3s. A new in the box Pismo was found for a friend last year; two run Tibooks. A smattering of g3 iBooks. A few G4 iBooks, 12/14" and a Albook PB. A couple of Cubes, G4 PMacs, etc. Actually my 70 something mom has the newest G5 iMac -- faster than my own machines. So you could say I run my own vintage Mac IT department and am very happy with the way my "posse" grooves on their older Macs -- so phasing them out is not something I hope Apple does.
I did help a friend buy a MacBookPro but found I could not navigate the weird Parallels or bootcamp situation at all, so I'm no use on IntelMacs. Enuff info for you? I love PPCs. Sorry. Just don't want any antiPPC stuff coming down from Apple. (And I am doing all this as a hobby, btw, not my real job.) If I were to buy a new machine now, I'd be looking at the last rev 15" Powerbook to drive my 23" ACD or maybe a 30". I did marvel that the MacBooks seem to be able to drive a monitor. But their hd's are too small and the screens are way too wide for writing. The 12" PB is better. And I do love my iPhone, but that is irrelevant to this thread.
Do a web search for Intel's Silverthorne and Menlow codenames - the pod-phone will be running x86 before too long....
Well, I guess the (few) who bought the quad G5s maybe expected them to last longer than 4 years...
Sad for them.
Yes. It's me.
I am very sad right now....I am not going to buy Mac Pro...I love PPC...
I hope they do support at least G5 in 10.6 as well. I love my PM G5. My G4 tower lasted me over six years, I see no reason why my dual core G5 shouldn't last that long.
When did you get your G5? If it was early last year, I'm sure it will make it through six years. I remember that Jobs had issued a statement saying that new OSs were going to be spaced out more now. I don't think we can expect 10.6 until about 2010 (giving it a three year update cycle).
I don't have a problem with this at all. The only PowerPC Mac I have is the first Mac mini. I am happy to keep running Tiger on it until it breaks down; it has been running almost continously for 2+ years.
I might upgrade it to Leopard if the performance is ok. I just need basic stuff on this like browsing, email, itunes, iphoto and bittorrent. If I get a new Mac, this will become the media centre connecting to the plasma screen.
I might upgrade it to Leopard if the performance is ok. I just need basic stuff on this like browsing, email, itunes, iphoto and bittorrent. If I get a new Mac, this will become the media centre connecting to the plasma screen.
yep, Apple still makes solid machines. That's one reason why we pay a premium when choosing to buy them. I'm expecting my G5 to last 10 years. That's why I'd be pissed if it's final possible upgrade occurred 3 or 4 (or even 5) years into it's life cycle.
Even if its final update happened in the fifth year of its life, it would still be a valuable computer for a good three years after that. I think that eight years out of a computer is pretty darn good. By that time, you'd want the better specs anyways, so buying a new one wouldn't be such a bad thing
It's much cheaper to do internal builds (as Apple had been doing all along with Intel) than to release the other architecture as a product.
The internal builds don't need to be seeded, supported, tested, etc.
Dropping official PPC support in the shipping product is probably right for 10.6 - but continuing to do silent internal builds would be wise. It will help keep the code architecture independent, and easier to move to the next thing. (Like when Intel drops x64 for IA64.)
The Saddest thread
Is there no satisfying you people?
first you've already worn out leopard, and now you can't seem to remember that 10.5 will be the last version of Mac OS X (this means no 10.6 folks)
so now everyone here who's worried about no G5 support in late 2009
if you have a G5 iMac, it's already slow
if you have a G5 PowerMac fully specced up, it's obvious you're no struggling financially, so you have 2 years to scrap together $2 to get an iMac that will be faster
and that's only if the rumor is true
what's struck me is that this forum is so rumor deprived after all our prayers being answered.........a stupid irrelevant rumor has bagged 14 pages in 12 hours
guys enjoy what we have...or look forward to leopard if you must
Is there no satisfying you people?
first you've already worn out leopard, and now you can't seem to remember that 10.5 will be the last version of Mac OS X (this means no 10.6 folks)
so now everyone here who's worried about no G5 support in late 2009
if you have a G5 iMac, it's already slow
if you have a G5 PowerMac fully specced up, it's obvious you're no struggling financially, so you have 2 years to scrap together $2 to get an iMac that will be faster
and that's only if the rumor is true
what's struck me is that this forum is so rumor deprived after all our prayers being answered.........a stupid irrelevant rumor has bagged 14 pages in 12 hours
guys enjoy what we have...or look forward to leopard if you must
Do you have solid evidence to support this, or is it just your gut feeling?
Its only garnered so much attention because its not iPhone related, thanks goodness.
Thank god for that!