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ChrisBrightwell said:
Additionally, despite OS X's processor independence, the shipping packages are built specifically for the PowerPC platform and not for the Intel platform. The Intel code is a separate codebase all-together, I'm sure.

Actually shipping packages to extent recompile the OS against the hardware.

ChrisBrightwell said:
It's like Linux/UNIX/BSD, if you think about it. Those OSes, for the most part, are processor independent (hell, look at NetBSD!). That doesn't mean that the PPC build will run on x86, though, nor is the inverse true. You have to have specific builds (or "fat" builds that support multiple CPUs) for whatever CPU your system is running.

Here's hoping I answered more questions than I created. :)
 
Huked on Fonick said:
Looks like he recorded a mac screen doing stuff, and then pasted it over the dells
no way... I have an iMac DV+ 450Mhz and my computer doesn't run nearly as choppy even when Acquisition and iTunes AIM, MSN, yahoo, safari are open at once. (course I do have 576MB ram)
 
Macrumors said:
It's not known if the developer Mac OS X Intel will install on a standard PC with the same chipset.

Standard PC.... ROFL....

I don't think so. There are other things to worry about, on an equally low level.
 
mods can you put this at the top as a warning.

if you find it on p2p networks DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT AND BOOT IT FROM A PC, i booted it with qemu and it has a rather disgusting image of gay porn, weather you think people who pirate software deserve to be inflicted by this or not people need to be warned.

if it's 900MB it's the fake version.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
When I was at WWDC I was so close to plugging my firewire drive into one of the demo machines and running ditto across it. Discretion being the better part of valor and the possible repercussions convinced me not to.

I wouldn't be surprised if it does just work on generic Intel hardware. Remember though there may not be drivers for peripheral X or video card y.

wouldn't work, with apple demo macs they put a lock on so external devices devices dont work i've tried to test WoW on a 2.7GHz powermac in the apple store.
 
Hector said:
...i booted it with qemu and it has a rather disgusting image of gay porn, weather you think people who pirate software deserve to be inflicted by this or not people need to be warned...

LOL!
Avast ye matey! We have a different type of pirate seeding OSX for x86.

Wait... maybe it's just the new OSX x86 install screen.

Why does there need to be a disclaimer on this thread? If you DL pirated software I think you accept a certain amount of risk. If a pornographic image is all you got I think you should consider yourself lucky. The trickster could have chosen to be malicious rather than just a little bit devious.
 
Better idea: when someone actually does get their hands on this thing, they're gonna have to install it on Virtual PC, because, well, that would be really cool.
 
DrNeroCF said:
Better idea: when someone actually does get their hands on this thing, they're gonna have to install it on Virtual PC, because, well, that would be really cool.

And then run PearPC in that with Mac OS X emulated.
 
Ya know... my PC is a P4 3.6 GHz (not the 660 though...) with Radeon X800 XT.
It seems so close to the dev kit....

I just wanna know what it feels like.... looks like... :cool:

I still have to get used to the feeling, but maybe if I have seen it once on an Intel, I hope to get blown away by its speed. ;)
 
And I thought playing music through iTunes for windows in virtual PC being streamed from iTunes for OSX running on the same system was inefficient.

Omen88 said:
Or virtual PC with rosetta translation running OS X intel again. I'm just getting carried away...
 
greenmonsterman said:
LOL!
Avast ye matey! We have a different type of pirate seeding OSX for x86.

Wait... maybe it's just the new OSX x86 install screen.

Why does there need to be a disclaimer on this thread? If you DL pirated software I think you accept a certain amount of risk. If a pornographic image is all you got I think you should consider yourself lucky. The trickster could have chosen to be malicious rather than just a little bit devious.

for all i know it could be malicious, i booted it in an controlled environment, for all i know it could delete all your HD's

discussing and aiding the sharing of illegal files may be against this boards rules, but advising against it and giving some reason is not, weather you think they deserve it or not is another matter.
 
Seriously, what is the big point, i saw the video, it runs like crap on Wintels. The genie effect looks like crap. Seriously Wintel users think they are cool, but they really aren't.
 
lind0834 said:
I have no doubt that a legit copy of this exact OS is around, but I doubt if would be really useful to many people.

It has been said that it runs on a standard P4 system with a standard Intel MoBo and chipset. Does anybody know what MoBos are used? Which Intel Chipset is used? How about the network and sound chips that are used?

Apple would not build support in to a release like this with universal support for all devices. Until we have more details about the hardware used the software is useless.

That being said, once those details are released I could see sales for certain motherboards jump on eBay.. Even without support for updates it would still be interesting to use a computer with Dual G5 speeds for the price around a Mini.
I was thinking along similar lines - It would seem as if there is ever a time that OS X is "open" to the generic PC/Intel motherboard, it's now. I'm guessing that once Apple ramps up production on Intel Macs, Tiger/Leopard will become a "closed" OS that requires certain Apple hardware identifiers to install.

There just can't seem to have been enough time for Apple to put a hardware-specific block on installing OS X on the developer boxes. It raises some interesting hacking possibilities, for sure. Of course, if you did install it on a DIY box that matches (or possibly exceeds) the specs of the Apple developer box, would it disable itself with the first software update to 10.4.2 or beyond?

Though I don't doubt that it's only a matter of time before legit copies of the P4 OS X do start appearing on the peer-to-peer circuits. All it takes is one shady developer, and the Internet will do the rest...
 
*cancels download*

i was curious but thinking about it, nah. plus its clogging up the connection. all that for another 14 hours? no thanks.

finally i listen to my own little angel on my shoulder
 
eSnow said:
However, someone will get his ass whipped big time - that Apple does not provide installer DVDs, but delivers the box pre-installed tells me they have watermarked every single OS X/x86. Some fool will have to pay.


Me thinks Norton Ghost would do the trick...
 
SiliconAddict said:
What would be interesting to find out is if you could install this developer preview of tiger and migrate the drivers over from the final release of 10.4.1 for x86. :confused:

What would the point of that be? If you had a copy of the final release of 10.4.1 for x86, why not juse use it?

Given that only a relatively small number of these dev machines will be handed out, and that they will have OS X already on the HDD, it is possible that Apple could embed some kind of unique ID into a system file which would give away the leaker should that copy ever appear on the internet.
 
admanimal said:
Given that only a relatively small number of these dev machines will be handed out, and that they will have OS X already on the HDD, it is possible that Apple could embed some kind of unique ID into a system file which would give away the leaker should that copy ever appear on the internet.
Sure - something that wouldn't get picked up by Norton Ghost or other snooper ID software. It seems like this might require a little overhead to do it right, since if it were registration-dependent (some Hex code based on the information provided by the owner of the developer box), you could just enter a false name and information and thus have an "untraceable" copy. Maybe someone at the company enters something into the box before it gets shipped...

So basically, there's only one way to get an ISO of the Intel OS X, which is to clone the entire hard drive. I wasn't aware that Apple was not giving out DVD installers to developers.

Of course, the real people to ask are the developers with Apple Intel machines, who are all under a "penalty of death" NDO. Jeez, I'd love to see that document. :rolleyes:
 
ChrisBrightwell said:
Here's a video worth watching:
http://www.digg.com/apple/Video_of_OS_X_on_a_Dell_Laptop

QT7 is required.

It looks like it *might* be running under Pear PC (he doesn't zoom in on the "About ..." window, so I can't see CPU info), but it's interesting, nonetheless.

The choppy video performance may lend itself to using the "default" drivers for Darwin or OS X on unknown hardware. I'm not sure.

Just thought I'd share. :)
V-N-C.
I used to do the same thing from the university computers...
totaly freaks people out too!
 
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