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One would think they'd have some kind of announcement soon if it were come out in march. Releasing an operating system lowkey doesn't seem very Apple like. They probably woulde have said something at MWSF too. I'm still placing my bet on June 11.
 
It makes you wonder why Apple bothered demonstrating leopard last August at all. I mean if it's released in June that'll be nearly a year since it's preview. We've heard literally nothing on Leopard for 6 months, which I think is just a little ridiculous.
 
They have registered Cougar and Linx. So 10.6 and 10.7 are there. But i think we're not going to see any 10.8 and the like. Remember OS 9? It was little from OS 7 and it was rushed to 9 to sell later OS X, so now that there's no rush, maybe they push OS X 11 or whatever [because the X is here to stay...] and forget about the cats. They can choose another name or continue but without the cat thing... :rolleyes:

BTW: Also expect to see the iMac to be call ":apple:Mac". But "iPod" is not going away.
 
ThinkSecret is FinancialTimes' source I'd bet. No Leopard til June!

Agreed. I don't think that Leopard stands a snowball's chance in hell of being released before June. March is clearly nonsense since there has been no new official information about Leopard since WWDC last year so I really cannot see it being released without something approaching a release candidate build of the OS. Current information seems to suggest that the recent builds definitely aren't ready for prime-time and there's been zero mention of the "Secret Features" that Steve gave mention to last year.

This said, maybe the development of the "Secret Features" have slipped such that Apple is prepared to release the update without them in order to release closer to Vista. That's possible, although I certainly hope that this isn't true and that Apple doesn't start marching to Microsoft's beat on this one.
 
I think they're just trying to get some traffic. Did you see all the links to obscure market tools and analyses? Right in the body's text? With no relevence to the "news"?
 
i am starting to believe that the so-called secret features have everything to do with iphones. it didn't make sense for Jobs to make a presentation if it had something to do with iphones at that time because that would reveal the existence of the phone before the release.


speaking of leopard, does anybody know if you can back up using time machine on a hard drive attached to that new airport extreme that let you share the drive wirelessly? that would be pretty cool...
 
Unless some amazing new feature is going to be announced for Leopard then I think i'll be sticking with what I have...there doesn't seem to be that many new features that I'd use.

Mind you, if it does run faster on Intel hardware than the current OS X , then I might find myself getting a copy with my educational discount:rolleyes:

I suspect 'Amazing' it will be ... so open that wallet ...
 
speaking of leopard, does anybody know if you can back up using time machine on a hard drive attached to that new airport extreme that let you share the drive wirelessly? that would be pretty cool...

I am almost sure it can. I installed the new Airport Extreme this weekend I have Apple's BackUp doing just that every day now from several Macs so why not Time Machine? It is also now hosting an Epson printer and all Macs print well to it as well as a monitor-less PC (run from a Mac with DeskTop Remote) and XP in Parallels (all using Bonjour).

Off topic but while mentioning Aiport Extreme, the best thing for me was the range increase. My old iBook G4 (used for reading web pages now only) which is obviously 11.g has seen a phenomenal increase in wi-fi range. Using my Verizon FiOS wi-fi it was able to network within the house and just on the to the deck. I turned off the Verizon wi-fi and switched to the Apple Extreme yesterday and I walked the iBook down the road and out of our subdivision's gate, this is about 500 yards. The signal was still 100%! I could not believe my eyes.
 
I am almost sure it can. I installed the new Airport Extreme this weekend I have Apple's BackUp doing just that every day now from several Macs so why not Time Machine? It is also now hosting an Epson printer and all Macs print well to it as well as a monitor-less PC (run from a Mac with DeskTop Remote) and XP in Parallels (all using Bonjour).

Off topic but while mentioning Aiport Extreme, the best thing for me was the range increase. My old iBook G4 (used for reading web pages now only) which is obviously 11.g has seen a phenomenal increase in wi-fi range. Using my Verizon FiOS wi-fi it was able to network within the house and just on the to the deck. I turned off the Verizon wi-fi and switched to the Apple Extreme yesterday and I walked the iBook down the road and out of our subdivision's gate, this is about 500 yards. The signal was still 100%! I could not believe my eyes.



interesting. I have a MBP that didn't ship with 11N so I was hesitant about getting the new airport extreme.....did you notice any speed increase besides the range increase?
 
I'm looking forward to Leopard as much as everyone else is, especially since I have an Intel-based Mac now. However, I doubt that it'll be released in March. We've had very little Leopard-related news, and what little we've had suggests that serious bugs still exist in the latest Leopard builds. I'm thinking April or May, if not June, for a Leopard release.
 
It makes you wonder why Apple bothered demonstrating leopard last August at all. I mean if it's released in June that'll be nearly a year since it's preview. We've heard literally nothing on Leopard for 6 months, which I think is just a little ridiculous.
WWDC and OS previews are more for developers than customers. Devs need that time to make sure their apps work (and also to help Apple test that they haven't broken anything).

I am almost sure it can. I installed the new Airport Extreme this weekend I have Apple's BackUp doing just that every day now from several Macs so why not Time Machine?
Wow. That's pretty cool. I think I'll do that too :)
 
I'm wondering if the "top secret features" statement was in fact BS code for "well, there's nothing much new in Tiger yet, or stable enough to show - since we are behind schedule".

Apple said release in Spring - so if they have got buffer time - that time could be well spent on extra QA time to get the bug count down a little bit.

Apple, buck the trend and make a good XX.0 release.
 


Though unconfirmed, Financialwire.net claims that Apple's Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard will be shipping by the end of March "according to sources."

This date corresponds to an earlier report from ThinkSecret that Leopard development was "wrapping up faster than many at Apple even anticipated". Based on this earlier report, the new versions of iLife '07 and iWork '07 are expected alongside Leopard.

Even after many false rumors about potential Apple media events, buzz continues about the possibility of a future Apple release event.

No way, on ADC Apple hasn't even released a beta release yet. So that means that developers have only had alpha releases. Even though the GM of 10.4 was 8A428, there have been not been enough developer builds on ADC to warrant it even being close.
 
No way, on ADC Apple hasn't even released a beta release yet. So that means that developers have only had alpha releases. Even though the GM of 10.4 was 8A428, there have been not been enough developer builds on ADC to warrant it even being close.
Nope. The build numbering system has nothing to do with alphas and betas. Heck, we don't even know what's considered alpha and beta by Apple... though I think it's safe to assume that the Leopard builds that developers outside Apple have are beta builds.

Remember:
8 = 8th iteration of Darwin (the core on which Mac OS X is based)
A = first fork of the 8th iteration
428 = 428th build of the first iteration of the 8th fork

You can dissect other build numbers in much the same way.

For example:
9A343, the latest Leopard build I can find reported about on MacRumors:

9 = 9th iteration of Darwin
A = first fork
343 = 343rd build
 
My GF and I weren't getting our iMac until May anyway (unless Leopard is ready after that, then we'll wait) so at this point it could be out tomorrow or in a month. Doesn't matter all that much to me.
 
OS X 11 Voltron........ too funny!

Are there any legitimate Apple Events other than WWDC happening soon? I can't see Apple releasing Leopard without a special event to show off some of these "top secret" features.

Wouldn't it be funny if one of the top secret features was an updated Exposé that looked just like Vista's version of Exposé? I would die if something snuck past Apple like that.
 
Any thoughts on when an updated Mac Mini might show up?

I've been waiting to get a Duo Core 2 Mac Mini with 802.11n running Leopard. Hope they show up reasonably soon. June seems like a long way away.

Not sure if its a good move for Steve Jobs to tell customers to stop buying Macs to wait for a year (August to June) before buying a Mac with the OS he's pre-announced.
 
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