Ah you youngins, didn't think to use a picture of a radio? Or haven't you seen one of those?
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Someone submitted this image.
apparently, you can turn off the 3d dock on the bottom
YAY!!!!!!!!!!
The 3D dock is pretty much the only thing I don't like 100%. Great to have the ability to change. The dark grey theme is already in the iLife and iWork apps so the "HUD" should be familiar. The white line around the dock is a nice touch .
Anyways, I did think to use a picture of an old radio, but I didn't think the guy who'd never seen a radio button would know what it was. Then later on I realized that elevator buttons are more like checkboxes, so my bad.
I keep running into an increasing number of former Windows "power users" pining for options to rice out their desktops. It's absurd for a number of reasons, not the least significant of which being Apple's overall philosophy--they produce cohesive and complete products which are designed in the truest sense of the word. They're not going to go all KDE on configuration options. The design is meant to be consistent, clean, and universal. Just look at all the horrible Firefox themes out there that don't implement everything properly or just give up in certain corners. Most people with "customized" desktops have a horrible mismatch of elements and no sense of design, and that's not the image Apple wants for its products.
Fixed, limited configurations are the norm (cars, small electrics, furniture), particularly from vendors that have an image to emphasize and maintain. For the people that really want it, there are third party utilities like ShapeShifter.
Instead of complaining about how Apple won't let you mix and match to your heart's content and getting so defensive about your fight for ugly skins, maybe consider that part of the reason some of us are Apple customers is just for that exercise of restraint. Knock yourself out with ShapeShifter...but just accept that Apple goes for aesthetics and simplicity, and that comes at a cost. We're okay with it, and it doesn't have anything to do with loving every single detail and change Apple produces. It has to do with a different approach to personal computing that doesn't involve being everything to everyone.
I'm glad they are giving us an option for a simplified dock. I was worried the reflections might slow down my poor old Powerbook G4 too much.
Personally, I'm more irritated at the lack of hierarchical pop-up folders in the dock than any of the aesthetics issues.
As a Mac convert I can't believe people got this worked up over a purely aesthetic issue. And I can assure you the other millions of people coming over to the platform really don't care about it, either. This is going to get real interesting for the graphic design folks when they're no longer the predominant users of the platform. Changes in future revisions of the OS may be based on *gasp* functionality instead of aesthetics!
Err... you can do this in Tiger...
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He was referring to a previous comment in which someone expressed surprise that a window could be slid under the Dock, as though that were not possible in Tiger.
I'm glad they added Docks to Leopard. Now I'm gonna buy it!
Speaking as a Mac convert as well, I say that functionality and aesthetics do go together, and Apply has been pretty good at demonstrating that. Saying that, Apple also been prone to demonstrate aesthetics that are overdone that don't have any functionality at all. I'm not gonna deny that.
Anyway, I think the visual look of the Dock is relevant and functional. The 3D Dock is not only ugly in my opinion, but provided poor contrast and visual feedback on what applications were running. That's very functional feedback. The 2D Dock in Leopard looks a lot better and it's much easier to tell which apps are running.
Additionally, I work on a computer all day, so at the end of the day I'm tired and I get agitated easily. Having an aesthetically pleasing user interface helps me every bit since I don't get tired of it, and I actually forget that I'm on a computer sometimes because of it. On a Windows machine I've never been satisfied with the look, either the default options or any of my customizations, and it is not the user interface I want to be looking into at the end of the day.
But his screen shot is of the dock on the SIDE. He was responding to a post where the person said they can't do this when the dock is on the BOTTOM.
So he proved nothing
A radio button has a very unique property. Only one button from the set can be selected at any one time. Those just look like standard buttons to me. If anyone can think of an example of a real-life radio button, please let me know, because I'm lost.
Someone submitted this image.
apparently, you can turn off the 3d dock on the bottom
Start and stop button on a microwave? does that count?
Seriously, I just don't get Apple at all. They update the Dock (which was fine to begin with, in my opinion), yet they keep the horrible Aqua scroll bars in Leopard, when it's clear that the iTunes 7 scroll bars were the way to go. (To the point where even a few apps in iLife/iWork '08 have gotten them.)Now if only they could 'tweak' the Aqua Scroll Bars by updating them at all...
Seriously, I just don't get Apple at all. They update the Dock (which was fine to begin with, in my opinion), yet they keep the horrible Aqua scroll bars in Leopard, when it's clear that the iTunes 7 scroll bars were the way to go. (To the point where even a few apps in iLife/iWork '08 have gotten them.)
Please, Apple, get rid of those damn Aqua scroll bars in 10.5.1.
Well, it seems to be one of those hidden options. You can do similar things in tiger if you need to have the dock on the top or aligned to a corner. So it's not trivial for the average joe to disable the shelf. On the other hand, if you see people using the black dock on the bottom, you know they're not total newbies.
I like the 2-d Dock. Thanks Apple!