# Archive Mailbox
Create an archive of your mailbox to back up important messages or to transfer your mail to another computer.

About flip'n time.
# Archive Mailbox
Create an archive of your mailbox to back up important messages or to transfer your mail to another computer.
It's a cross-platform open source program called aMSN.
http://www.amsn-project.net/
Nice, free software.
:d
I've tried it, it's very buggy while using A/V.
Core Animation. Nuff said. ... and if you don't think that's a major upgrade, research it and what it gives devs the ability to do. Also, what about the new Finder or QuickLook for that matter? Total productive enhancers.I don't see how iChat can be touted as an operating system feature. It's an application... and it should be free, heck you can download MSN Messenger for Windows, and use it on any version of Windows for free. No need to upgrade to Vista to get the latest MSN Messenger with screen sharing, video chat, music sharing, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I like Apple, but I haven't seen anything in Leopard that is really WOW... what fundamental OPERATING SYSTEM changes have been made... everything I see mentioned as an improvement is just a tweak of an existing application... remember applications are different than an operating system... the operating system is what talks to the hardware... applications talk to the operating system...
Making things pretty and adding a backup program don't count as operating system improvements...
It will because everything is being done by your Mac not their computer. Basically it's all being processed on your Mac and then streamed as video like normal.Anyone know if the nw iChat 4 effects (background or photobooth) will transmit so that iChat 3 users can see them?
Do all of you who use iChat have .Mac accounts?
It is basically impossible to actually get chat working for me or my friends. We are all charter users, but don't have .mac accounts.
I can't connect to my other iChat friends because there are always connection problems. Googling turns up a solution, which is to farward like 10 different port ranges. Seems rediculous.
Is there a secret I'm missing?
This is like, when they first invented the telephone, and your phone number was "5", but only two other people you knew had one, and they weren't necessarily people you wanted or needed to talk to, so you have this snazzy new telephone doing nothing.
Until I meet more people with iChat (ie, with a Mac) or even ONE person who uses AIM, whom I actually want or need to talk to, then all this really cool iChat technology is just taking up space on my hard drive.
Too bad, I'd love to use it, but it's useless.
It will because everything is being done by your Mac not their computer. Basically it's all being processed on your Mac and then streamed as video like normal.
Core Animation. Nuff said. ... and if you don't think that's a major upgrade, research it and what it gives devs the ability to do. Also, what about the new Finder or QuickLook for that matter? Total productive enhancers.
Also, I disagree with your assessment of Time Machine. It's not tacked on like Volume Shadow Copy nor does it work in any way the same as any other backup application (even fundamentally they are quite different).
A/S/L? Cyber?
haha
fyi, the proper response is always "15/F/Cali"
so what I could really still use is better MSN AV inside OS X.
Google chat support would be nice.
But until Apple says that's what it does ... well, I'm not a big fan of any random user on the internet being able to see what's on my screen at any minute of the day.
Microsoft negotiated interoperability with Yahoo, so it doesn't seem as if they are completely unwilling to come to the table. Give them some credit. They even took Flip4Mac under their wing in the past couple of years, giving implicit support to Quicktime in the OS X environment. Who expected that move?
1. The Yahoo deal was a strategic move because of Google buying a stake in AOL. If MS was real about interoperability, they would support Jabber in Messenger
2. An easy/soft way out, after stopping development of Windows Media Player.
One new feature I would like iChat 4.0 to have is videoconferencing that WORKS, without giving you error messages half of the times. Skype does it. Why can't iChat do it too?
It's a cross-platform open source program called aMSN.
http://www.amsn-project.net/
Nice, free software.
I've tried it, it's very buggy while using A/V.
The best I've found is Mercury Messenger's latest beta (download link)![]()
Core Animation - a Tweening API... whoopie... like I said, just prettifying, no meat.
QuickLook... MS has had this since Windows XP, including the ability to rotate, save, print, etc.
No secret really. Its been a disaster in this department for months (See the iChat section in Apples own discussion forums). I dont know if iChat 4 will be any better yet.
All I can say is, iChat is extremely sensitive to network & router settings. You really need to tripple check it is all set up correctly. And even then it doesnt always work. This can sometimes be due to ISP's blocking/restricting ports iChat uses. Other times it can be because your nipples are not correctly aligned with the constellation of Orions belt.
It rarely works for me 1st time these days, and even when it does, the quality isn't nearly as good as it used to be. When eventually connected, data throughput is often rather low..
Don't know what its like in the rest of the world but in the UK iChat is basically useless until it has native MSN support.
Is there any website that hs actually working instructions? I tried with OSX's firewall off etc. Didn't do the nipple thing yet![]()
Interesting, in the States and the rest of the world, MSN, in fact anything Micro$oft makes is useless, maybe Europe needs go get with the times?
That said iChat could use more networks
Well - Apple would only have to offer a documented API for iChat and i'm sure they would not need to implement support for other networks on their own - some 3rd party programmer would do it for them! Or is there already something like this in iChat that i'm not aware of?
iChat continues to be the worst application ever created by Apple, and it just continues to hold on to that title. Even with all of the video conferencing and other additions, it fails as a standard AIM client.
Fortunately, there are good third-party options like Adium, and in the near future, Trillian will finally make its way to the Mac. *celebrates*
For all of you unhappy with your OSX chat client options, I really highly recommend checking out meebo. It's web based, so it doesn't support any of the audio/visual options out there, however it works really well and if you are like everybody I know, you always have a browser open so it saves on space.
That said, it's more for a casual IMer, not somebody who chat's the night away on AIM/etc.
haha
fyi, the proper response is always "15/F/Cali"
And of course, those pr*cks at the apple store won't acknowledge that an issue exists, as with everything I bring to their attention.