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thanks mate,
i was able to find $9.95 in the apple US but cant find the £5.95 in the apple UK

anyway, my iMac will arrive tomorrow or after tomorrow, will pay the £5.95 as soon as i get the serial number.
thanks

Happy to help out. I let my Mum use my MacBook a while back and she really thought it was easy to use. She ended up going out and getting a Mac Mini since you thought it was 'Cool and Cute'. She wouldn't wait for Leopard so I was looking into upgrade costs anyway! :D
 
who is claimign this is true??

It certainly happened with me on the Jaguar -> Panther upgrade, even though I was a month outside cutoff

Think about it -- Apple doesn't have the all the POS receipts in all the resellers -- they don't know if a system was bought Sept 30th or Oct 1st.. They go by serial numbers, what this really means is "We will offer the $9.95 upgrade on serial number batches that go far enough back that we can guarantee any system bought after Oct 1st is eligible. There are no guarantees for those before Oct 1st".

So before complaining, plug your serial number into the eligibility system and see what happens.
 
Posted this in the first Leopard thread, probably better fitting here:

You may still be able to get the old $69 educational discount price for Leopard, but you *need* to call your local Apple educational sales representative. I just did, and got it pre-ordered for $69. The woman I spoke with didn't even know about the $116 pricing for individual students and educators.

How can I find out how to contact my local Apple educational sales rep? I just checked the Apple Store online and looked at my UCLA "Institutional" version of the site and it's still at $116. The UCLA Store's own website has not been updated yet and still has Tiger up on their price listing.
 
I don't know how legal that was. Here at UofM they stress that the Business Edition is only for university owned computers. For personal machines you have to buy something else - not sure which version.

Steffen
My employers (a Big Ten University) have an agreement with Microsoft that they can sell employees a "Work at home" version of Vista Business for $10, the only requirement is that you can't use it if you stop working for them, you can install it on a home computer no problem. I'm tempted to order it actually!
 
It certainly happened with me on the Jaguar -> Panther upgrade, even though I was a month outside cutoff

Think about it -- Apple doesn't have the all the POS receipts in all the resellers -- they don't know if a system was bought Sept 30th or Oct 1st.. They go by serial numbers, what this really means is "We will offer the $9.95 upgrade on serial number batches that go far enough back that we can guarantee any system bought after Oct 1st is eligible. There are no guarantees for those before Oct 1st".

So before complaining, plug your serial number into the eligibility system and see what happens.
Worked for me with my late-September-bought iMac. :)
 
Just say *NO* to MacMall AND mail-in rebates!

I won't order anything from Macmall again, but they are offering Leopard for $109, less than the edu price. Shipping is free but only after a mail-in rebate.

I became a Win=>Mac switcher after the MacBook update a few months ago.

I bought from MacMall because of all the rebates, even though I *HATE* mail-in rebates. In the end, I was reminded why.. Even though MacMall sent me all the applicable rebate coupons and info via e-mail from *their* sales associate, they refused to honor half of them. According to the mailed-out canned response, they "couldn't identify" the offer. Sheesh!!

As a result, I will *never* order from MacMall/PCMall/OnSale ever again. If it isn't a good price *without* having to factor in a mail-in rebate, fuggedaboudit..

Companies count on around thirty percent of folks who are eligible actually getting around to sending in the rebate coupons. Then they deny about ten percent of those submitted for chicken-s#$% reasons, which means that they didn't actually have to sell many at the "advertised sale price" yet they escape being accused of bait-and-switch. Neat, huh?

Moral of the story? Forget MacMall/PCMall/OnSale. Forget mail-in rebates. Find a good, straight, up-front deal and run with it.
 
DVD player requirements?

I see on Apple's site they state this as a requirement:

"DVD Player requires a 1.6GHz processor or faster for improved de-interlacing."

Please don't tell me that upgrading to Leopard is going to lock anyone with less than a 1.6GHz processor out of playing a DVD like they were able to do just fine in Tiger.

I admit that the statement above could be taken either way, they could be saying that only for improved de-interlacing you need a 1.6GHz proc, I really hope this is the case, and not that you need a 1.6GHz proc and the reason is for improved de-interlacing.
 
For what it's worth, I just exchanged a couple of emails with someone from the Georgia Tech bookstore and even though the Georgia Tech Online Apple Store still says $116, they will have copies available on the 26th for $69 ! So I guess no excuse for not pre-ordering now :) Time to clean up Tiger and backup everything just in case ! And prepare a drive for TimeMachine ! Woot !
 
Being fairly new to Mac (bought mine in June), how does the license go when installing a new OS ? I usually get upgrade disc which cost cheaper for my Windows machines. They require a previous version disc when installing. As everyone knows, WinXP started the activation thing. How does OSX works? Is it cheaper for an upgrade from Tiger? Does OSX have a license key?
There is no upgrade disk for cheap, unless you bought a computer with Tiger on it this month.

Think of it this way: the box version of Leopard is the same as a Windows "Upgrade" because you can only install it on a machine that already has Mac OS X on it. This is because all Macs come with OS X already, so any new OS bought essentially is an "upgrade". So if you start thinking of it in terms of an upgrade being $129, and there not being a retail "full license" version, you'll be a lot less unhappy about paying $129. After all how much does MS charge for a full version of its OS? $500?

BTW: There is no license key.
 
Or you could just buy one copy and let everyone bootleg it.

The $69 low price point made it worth a purchase. At $113, more people are apt to just steal it outright instead, if for no other reason, the huge price jump being seen as a slap in the face.

They cut iPods discounts outright, then lowered the iWork/iLife discount to a pathetic $9, and now this.

Come on Steve, you have enough damn money.

If you have a job with minimum wage, that difference is 1 day of work. If you have any job better than that, then it's insignificant. If you really 'need' something, then go buy it, if not, wait and save up.

Steve makes $1 per year (yes one dollar) salary.

By the way, goodcow, please move out of your moma's basement and get a job.
 
I see on Apple's site they state this as a requirement:

"DVD Player requires a 1.6GHz processor or faster for improved de-interlacing."

Please don't tell me that upgrading to Leopard is going to lock anyone with less than a 1.6GHz processor out of playing a DVD like they were able to do just fine in Tiger.

I admit that the statement above could be taken either way, they could be saying that only for improved de-interlacing you need a 1.6GHz proc, I really hope this is the case, and not that you need a 1.6GHz proc and the reason is for improved de-interlacing.

You can use VLC player. Works even on slower machines.
 
Being fairly new to Mac (bought mine in June), how does the license go when installing a new OS ? I usually get upgrade disc which cost cheaper for my Windows machines. They require a previous version disc when installing. As everyone knows, WinXP started the activation thing. How does OSX works? Is it cheaper for an upgrade from Tiger? Does OSX have a license key?

Mac OSX is one retail price for the home, home Premium, business, and premium version of $129. Most people will go for the premium OSX. (Actually there is only one version, the full install version that does not require previous disk(s) or previous installed OS, Apple hasn't sold an OS upgrade disk for a long time).

Of course, like everything, you can shop around for reduced prices. But for those people who think their ability to get a small discount will make a big difference on their purchasing, get out of your moma's basement and get a job.
 
There is no upgrade disk for cheap, unless you bought a computer with Tiger on it this month.

Think of it this way: the box version of Leopard is the same as a Windows "Upgrade" because you can only install it on a machine that already has Mac OS X on it. This is because all Macs come with OS X already, so any new OS bought essentially is an "upgrade". So if you start thinking of it in terms of an upgrade being $129, and there not being a retail "full license" version, you'll be a lot less unhappy about paying $129. After all how much does MS charge for a full version of its OS? $500?

BTW: There is no license key.

I would rather not do an upgrade. I usually format/reinstall. Will I be able to do this with Leopard?
 
Why can't it be legally purchased and electronically downloaded?
Generally OS are only useful when on optical media like a DVD, so you'll need to burn it onto a DVD anyway.

Also I'll bet Apple find it cheaper and logistically easier to mail out boxes than to provide huge amounts of bandwidth needed to have everyone downloading a 6Gb ISO image from their site on launch day.
 
I would rather not do an upgrade. I usually format/reinstall. Will I be able to do this with Leopard?
The Leopard install DVD that comes in the boxed version can be used to both "upgrade" and to do a clean install.
 
The Leopard install DVD that comes in the boxed version can be used to both "upgrade" and to do a clean install.

I'm definitely going for the clean install...I need to reinstall Tiger anyways, so I may as well wait ten days :)
 
You can use VLC player. Works even on slower machines.

Sure, I realize that, but I really hope Apple hasn't locked people with a G4 out of using something as basic as the DVD player. I really hope the requirement is only for improved de-interlacing and if you have a G4, then you just will not see this improvement.
 
macbook upgrade

i have a question a have a macbook get it on october 11, but not on apple store, can i get the update of leopard?
 
My guess is G4 and G5 will be gone with 10.6
G4 is a good guess depending on how long till the next release. If it's 2 years then my guess would be yes. G5, I think will stick through 10.6 and possibly see 10.7 when it is dropped.
 
Mac OSX is one retail price for the home, home Premium, business, and premium version of $129. Most people will go for the premium OSX. (Actually there is only one version, the full install version that does not require previous disk(s) or previous installed OS, Apple hasn't sold an OS upgrade disk for a long time).

Of course, like everything, you can shop around for reduced prices. But for those people who think their ability to get a small discount will make a big difference on their purchasing, get out of your moma's basement and get a job.


the trouble is that I do live on my own and do have a job, but all of that money goes straight to my school, the bookstore, and the landlord. Apple education discounts are a joke. What's it down to now? $13 off Leopard, $8 off iLife/iWork, $0 off iPods, $50 off iMacs, $100 off MB/MBP/MP?

It wouldn't matter much if Apple just got rid of the discount completely at this point, imo. (with the exception of being able to buy cheaper from your school, instead of direct from Apple)
 
Stop whining ;-)
It's 154 USD here in euroland (ex VAT)
What REALLY pisses me off is that Apple did reduce prices in Canada.
Which proves all the b*llsh*t from Apple about 'higher cost of doing business in Europe' is just that, b*llsh*t.

Companies rarely actually adjust prices to reflect fluctuating currency values. Even historically, consumer prices often lag behind inflation. There are a number of factors, including that it confuses costumers, cost of preparing / adjusting marketing materials, etc.
 
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