You.. dream about operating systems?
I know someone who was dreaming about a PSW (program status word, as use surely don't know - that was well back in the late 80s, early 90s)... And that's much worse that that fancy Spaces stuf, I can tell you.
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I know someone who was dreaming about a PSW (program status word, as use surely don't know - that was well back in the late 80s, early 90s)... And that's much worse that that fancy Spaces stuf, I can tell you.
At school, my dashboard hot-corner provides that function
Ditto. Any X Window based UN*X gui have been havin' it for aaaages... So, "Only in Leopard"? For Christ sake! That reminds me that M$ blurb about "new" preemtive scheduling system that they "invented" or "put forward" or whatever was the buzz word and used in their Win NT. A collegue of mine with somewhat more substantial un*x experience by that time told me then: "Do they think that we are all plain stupid or they just can't or don't read docs and specs?"
So having been using X Window Pager (Spaces is analogous, though somewhat fancier) since about 1993, as far as I can remember, I can probably ask *exactly* the same question: "Only in Leopard"?..
That's ... cheap.
Just like the more space, the greater potential for my Mac to suck down RAM. Is there any relevance to the idea that Spaces may consume massive amounts of memory?
I had a dream about a naked woman...
Done up in spots, like a leopard....
Hogging my Mac which just had OSX 10.5 installed.
I never even got to use it, yet.
There were tears, frustration, and sorrow in this dream.
OS 10.5 does that to me.
Maybe it's time to start using two mice!
With more and more handy options for Finder meta-actions (Exposé, Spaces, Dashboard), we're soon going to have trouble remembering our function key and mouse button assignments.
I'm speaking on theory here, not from experience with Leopard, but I'd expect that the primary reason RAM usage would increase is because you'll be more likely to leave a number of applications open at once, and switch back and forth among them. That's a benefit of Spaces, but if your Mac is memory-strapped when you run lots of apps, you won't be able to take advantage of it.
I wouldn't expect it to add much overhead for Spaces to store extra information about where your windows are within the set of desktops, and when you don't use an application, having it open doesn't make much difference since it's only holding virtual memory.
Now I'm curious to learn whether I'm right about this.
Yeah I used VUE as well, I even had an HP 9000 workstation at home for a while
It even had a (forerunner of a) dock as well! For its time it was brilliant.However don't expect exactly the same as X-Windows workspaces from Mac OS X Spaces. In Mac OS, one program can only be on one space. So for example you can't have one safari window in space 1 and another in space 2.
I find this very constricting, I can remember many occasions where it was very useful to do exactly that under HP-UX. (e.g. working on an HTML page with a browser and a texteditor on one workspace, and browsing slashdot in the same browser app on another). In HP-UX (and every other X-Windows based desktop environment like KDE and Gnome) you can do all that. You can even choose to have one window appear on more than one workspace. So you can put your IM client in the right-hand corner on all your workspaces so you can see it no matter what space you're on.
I'd say Apple restricted their spaces in that way to make it easier to understand for novices but they should have made a way to turn on the ability have 2 windows of the same application on different spaces for power users. The way it's done now it's not too useful for me. So I don't expect to use it much.
Use the Hot Corners for Expose in each space then set the middle mouse button for birds eye spaces. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Expose in the Hot Corners. I feel like I'm in a FREAKING straight jacket when I have to use a PC lol
If I understand you correctly, that contradicts what AI says - specifically regarding safari.
With regard to sticking windows so they appear in every "space", I didn't see that mentioned in the AI article but I hope it's implemented in spaces.appleinsider said:
I'd never heard that Activity Monitor allows you to prioritize apps, but you can prioritize different program's processes using the renice command in the terminal. I'd also bet that there's a shareware or freeware app out there that'll do renice-ing without needing to open the terminal if you aren't comfortable with that.
The article says you CAN have separate windows of the same application open in different spaces, and they even used the safari window as their exact example!
Appleinsider article said:
edit: oogje beat me to the answer. That's what I get for responding to a comment from a window that I haven't reloaded in awhile.
Yes, you're both right, sorry! If I recall this correctly it did allow every App only on 1 space when it was presented at WWDC'06. The article is also mentioning that it doesn't work with every app so Apple might have tweaked Safari a bit. Or I just got it wrong when I read about it in 2006.
Anyway I stand corrected. I'm glad, too, because Spaces will be much more useful to me now.
Question. So lets say I have Adium open. And I have it assigned to desktop 4. What happens when I'm in Desktop 1 and I get an IM? Can you assign parts of apps to a desktop? Or am I going to miss the notification? The only possibility I can think of is setting up Growl to permanently leave a new message on all 4 desktops at the same time so I don't miss anything.
Software update and my money is on a .1 release within 2 months.
Doubt it. Only if Apple did a really piss poor job on integrating it into the OS. What is going to eat up the lion's share of your RAM is going to be the additional apps running on the system. That and I'm willing to bet the memory buffers and the frame buffer itself on the GPU are going to get hammered hard with this feature. Allowing you to swap back and forth between apps so easily means their is going to be some hard core caching going on. Thank god I got a 256MB card for my MBP. If they had the option I would have gone 512 though. Apple has been moving the processing of more and more of their GUI onto the GPU where it should have been a long time ago. I'm dead serious when I say get the biggest vid card you can afford or that Apple has for the system you are looking at. You will thank yourself in the long run.
Not what I was hoping for with spaces
As I understand it from the above post, you can't customize the dock to each space. Not what I was expecting. I want to have a space for writing where I have word processing and dictionary open, with only those icons in the dock. I don't want safari or email in the dock so there is less temptation to interrupt my writing to research something and get bogged down in the internet--no comments from the peanut gallery on will power, please.
Then I'll have a space for research and communications where I'll just have safari and email icons in the dock. Am I missing something here? Isn't part of having a virtual desktop about customizing the desktop and what you have quick access to?
As I understand it from the above post, you can't customize the dock to each space. Not what I was expecting. I want to have a space for writing where I have word processing and dictionary open, with only those icons in the dock. I don't want safari or email in the dock so there is less temptation to interrupt my writing to research something and get bogged down in the internet--no comments from the peanut gallery on will power, please.
Then I'll have a space for research and communications where I'll just have safari and email icons in the dock. Am I missing something here? Isn't part of having a virtual desktop about customizing the desktop and what you have quick access to?
I am not sure what you mean, moving a window once it's assigned. I was under the impression that in the expose view of the spaces you have running, you can just drag a window from one space to another... is this not true or am I missing exactly what you are trying to say you want to be able to do?
yes. you can force all new windows of a particular app to open in a specific space or you can open it in any space or you can drag individual windows of any app to any space. I just open spaces then expose them all drag a particular window to a space that I need to use it with another window. I think the previous poster is confused.
No you can, when in birds eye view you can drag windows to any space. Hell if you take a window, drag it to the edge of the screen and hold click, it will push that window over to the next space. The thing I really like is that you can do expose in particular spaces in birds eye view. Spaces has to be my favorite feature in leopard, soooo nice!