Thunderbird
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Yes, the official announcement was in late March. However, Serlet was probably winding down his duties long before that. Remember that Serlet was noticably absent from the Back to the Mac event in Oct. 2010.
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Yes, the official announcement was in late March. However, Serlet was probably winding down his duties long before that. Remember that Serlet was noticably absent from the Back to the Mac event in Oct. 2010.
THAT team must have been sleeping while running those tests that you suggest! If that team even exists... One BIIIIG if
Perhaps you should run your OS with Activity monitor on a second screen. Then watch closely. You will find that there are ISSUES in this regard.
You must be forgetting.... MUCH slower than Snow Leopard due to all the new eye candy and zoom BS...
Also slower in the regard that Lion attempts HEAVILY to THINK ahead of the user and THAT is the single worst thing I have ever seen in an Apple OS !
Constantly having to resize Finder windows because Lion thinks it should NOT remember the current column widths etc. What a leap backwards
Yeah... But without the touch screen. Which Apple MUST have forgot makes a HUGE part of the feel of the iOS...
Lion is a good name for this release= HEAVY, SLEEPY and CLUMSY... At least compared to a Leopard or Snow Leopard !!!!
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So you're calling me a liar? What would I gain out of lying?
I did not say they tested every piece of third party software but a pretty good portion of popular titles.
chrono1081
macrumors G3
No offense but this post is why non-developers shouldn't get ahold of developer previews. Of course there will be bugs, LOTS of bugs. The preview isn't meant to be a stable release, its meant to let devs get their software ready for prime time. Once the GM candidate of the release software is there then its time to worry if there are bugs.
petvas
macrumors 603
Almost.Apple has two beta programs: One for developers and one for all others (Appleseed). I am on Appleseed and I am asked to specifically test Lion on a productive machine, doing my day to day stuff.
the.sheepdog
macrumors regular
I say bring it on. Snow Leopard is getting old and very slow with all the added updates. Might be nice to format clean on a new install.
revelated
macrumors 6502a
Exactly. I haven't used Lion heavily, but from what I've seen, it's an unholy transition into something that wasn't needed, especially when there are still, as I said, issues that must be fixed and have not.
And yes, battery life IS attributable to the OS. If the OS is dealing with runaway processes (mdworker), your battery life is impacted. If the OS cannot or does not regulate applications so that the graphics switching technology uses the proper graphics card for the job, your battery life is impacted.
As far as Sandy Bridge and SATA 3 drives, I know it SHOULD be supported, but it isn't, not universally. A simple MRoogle or Google search will confirm a multitude of issues with SATA 3 drives. People have narrowed it down to a combination of hardware and software - hardware because in the rare occasion it's exchanged by Apple, it's "magically" fixed, software because the drive works fine in Windows under BootCamp, just not in Snow Leopard.
All other issues are well documented, and frankly, I would rather see Apple focus on improving the stability and reliability of the OS than to put a bunch of stuff the longtime users won't care about.
chrono1081
macrumors G3
Oh thats neat I didn't know that. I personally am excited for this release solely for OpenGL 3.2 support. Not only can I start programming in it but that also means The Foundry can release Mari for Mac 🙂
petvas
macrumors 603
Lion is looking good but there are some decisions that Apple made, which are very questionable. I cannot say much, but the problem is Resume.
chrono1081
macrumors G3
I have heard about that. I'm the only one allowed to touch my machine so its not an issue for me but I can see where it would be a problem for others.
I'm tempted to load the developer preview on my air just to start learning OGL 3.2 but I know if I do and one of my main programs (Maya, ZBrush, Painter, Photoshop, Unity, or Corona SDK) don't work I'm potentially screwed. I use my air a lot so I can escape from my desk once in awhile 😉
aniketroxx
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petvas
macrumors 603
Resume completely changes the way we use our computers. People now have to always think how they close an app. Do I close all windows first, or do I close the app completely? Imagine having some document you are working on. You close Word. The next day you start Word again and....the document also opens. That happens even if the document was in the meantime moved to the trash. Imagine starting an app by double clicking on a file directly. Do you know how many times I ran QuickTime and two or three videos started playing at the same time? Apple has to disable Resume, it is idiotic and doesn't offer anything.
chrono1081
macrumors G3
Ah ok, I wasn't aware of those problems. I was thinking of Versions vs. Resume. I'm not sure if I like the whole Resume idea either....especially if the file comes back out of the trash.
What I think a better option would be is when you go to shut your machine down if it would ask you to save your state upon restart or something, that way if you have all of your workspaces open and want to restart or shut down for whatever reason all your stuff comes back, however if you don't want that option you just don't click the button for it.
Same goes for exiting a program. If you want the state saved just tell it to do so, if not don't do anything.
(FYI I haven't installed Lion yet so what I said above may make no sense 😛 )
petvas
macrumors 603
When restarting there is an option now that controls exactly that. Closing an app saves the state by default. You would need to close apps by Cmd+Option+Q and then the state won't be saved. Alternatively, you can close all open windows for an app by Cmd+W (or Cmd+Alt+W for all open windows) and then close the app...
Looks like you said the same thing happens for two key sequences. I certainly hope that Cmd+W acts like has for, like for ever.
petvas
macrumors 603
Ready to move to Lion.
Snow Leopard is showing its age, for me. Lion is fresh and modern. Bring it
Snow Leopard is showing its age, for me. Lion is fresh and modern. Bring it
I always have Activity Monitor open, and I always watch it. That's why I said that I'm not aware of any mdworker CPU issues. The only time mdworker uses more than 5% CPU is if it's indexing a drive.
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They already mentioned they'd be fixing this. Sometime ago.
I'm not sure how old you are, in the case that you've already graduated, then you must have slept through the Animal Kingdom Classes.
The Lion is the King of the Jungle. Its a fierce predator, and nobody messes with it. Its not a big fat slow lazy kitty, its a predator, and it would rip you to shreds if you tried to pet it in a Jungle. Its an ideal name for what might be the final release of Mac OS X. Its the Dominatrix of Mac OS X's Cats.
Very valid point!
Resume can be easily fixed, and if enough people bring that problem to Apple's attention, it will be.
The only use I can see for Resume is resuming Windows after a Re-boot, and for that one, I'd put a Check Box in System Preferences -> Users & Groups -> Login Items, this one being only in the case that the User shut down using the Power Button due to a System Freeze or something, which has happened several times to me already. For a Normal Shut Down, they should just leave the option on the Logout/Shut Down Box, makes it easier, you can choose depending on the situation. You might, or might not want your Windows resumed on Login.
For Application resuming, I hate that as well. I launch TextEdit and something from two weeks ago pops up, or I launch QuickTime and the Movie I was watching yesterday is trying to open up as well. Dumb.
Activity Monitor - I haven't noticed any issues personally. Try re-installing?
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That's not a feature, that's a bug. Every single Apple OS in beta stage has this bug. Leopard had it, SL had it. It's called Finder amnesia. And it always gets fixed until release.
Seriously, who would think that this is a feature? Is this the first time you are using a beta software?
No - I am NOT.... Did you read the word "Liar" in my text.
Had I wanted/intended to call you a liar, I would have just done so. This aint no second class Hollywood movie or US-Governmental spy-affair, so there is NO NEED to interpret meanings into words that were NEVER written in the first place !!!
Yup, a Lion is fierce indeed. No doubt about that. But ONLY when it's awake. And that is about 1 hour per day. The other 23 hours are spent, Eating, Sleeping and Fornicating !!!!
Ohh... And occasionally defending its territory !
And King too it is, of the jungle. And we ALL know what kings do...
Eat - Sleep - ******* and treat everyone else BAD !!!
I am of course referring to the male-lion. Which IS depicted and thus suggested when referring to OS X Lion.
The female Lion, is another talk !
But perhaps after one year of OS X Lion we'll get Snow Lion or Female-Lion to sort out the laziness
No... It is not the first time.
If it is a bug, then OK. But this time this amnesia you are referring to, seems so thought-out that it reminds me more of a feature than a BUG.
Snow Lion? You mean the Mythical Tibetan Beast?
Personally I'd prefer Mac OS X 10.8 - White Siberian Tiger.