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Oh. My. God.

Can I please have. I'm opting out of buying a new pro since I bought one last year. Gonna buy a nice Vertex 3 instead. And then, hopefully rumors of a 2012 revamp are true. Also desperately hoping for retina.
 
Did someone say Apple branded Retnia TV with built in AppleTV?

Really... the prospects of this level of screen being supported with other devices would be amazing.

The laptops we have now would look like junk. Sort of like when I went from a Powerbook Wallstreet to my first Macbook Pro... I didn't know what I was missing. Wallstreet = 72ppi.... MBP = 130ppi
 
1920 x 1200 is nice, but as far as watching HD content on it your going to get black bars or a stretched picture 1920 x 1200 is fine for normal computing/gaming..
 
1920 x 1200 is nice, but as far as watching HD content on it your going to get black bars or a stretched picture 1920 x 1200 is fine for normal computing/gaming..

Err.. what's wrong with black bars ? 1920x1200 is better than 1920x1080 by 120 vertical pixels. More stuff on screen.

Again, let's not make monitors 16:9 because of "black bars". Who gives a crap about black bars. Most video content isn't 16:9 anyhow and has black bars even on 16:9 screens.
 
Erm, GPU power?

Not in this day and age, unless Apple want to start stuffing MacBook's with top grade GPU solutions.
 
Am I the only one left on this earth who buys monitors with higher pixel counts to fit more information on the screen, not to make things "sharper" ? I like the way it works now, more pixels = smaller fonts, smaller pictures, smaller everything so more of it shows up.

My MBA still has huge pixels and could use a higher DPI screen and shrink everything so I can display more.

Ah, great, apparently I'm not the only one. There's still hope yet.

But this will eventually be only for UI elements, content, like an image or a text, will use all the pixels available without doubling. Sound good to me.
 
it's hard for me to imagine when double-res big-screen LCDs are going to become affordable.

Until yesterday you weren't imagining a 10Gb/s peripherals port would be standard on a $1500 notebook either.
 
great.....now we're going to have the retina display discussion for macs as well :eek:

I was getting ready to buy a MacBook Air, but now I am not going to buy a Mac until it has a retina display (and some high unrealistic specs at a lower cost).

(I am not being serious, still buying the MBA)
 
But this will eventually be only for UI elements, content, like an image or a text, will use all the pixels available without doubling. Sound good to me.

This doesn't change my point. I buy higher pixel count monitors to get more content and less UI elements on screen.
 
Err.. what's wrong with black bars ? 1920x1200 is better than 1920x1080 by 120 vertical pixels. More stuff on screen.

Again, let's not make monitors 16:9 because of "black bars". Who gives a crap about black bars. Most video content isn't 16:9 anyhow and has black bars even on 16:9 screens.

To me the 16:9 is a bit more immersive compared to 16:10... but I'm right on the cusp, my monitor is 24" If and when I do decide to get a bigger monitor I would look into 1920 x 1200..
 
Such big resolution would mean no gaming at all. When you are not playing in the native-res, it often looks quite awful. The actual resolution of the 27' iMac is already very high. I know that not everybody play games, but I can't see Apple deprive themselve from this community.
 
Until yesterday you weren't imagining a 10Gb/s peripherals port would be standard on a $1500 notebook either.

It so happens in this case that I'm not surprised about high speed serial, the tech has been well-established for years and moves forward at a rapid pace. This is a nice new extension of the technology, but nothing that stretches my imagination to be honest.

I'm much less familiar with the tech of LCD manufacturing, but it seems like historically, panel resolution advances at a fairly slow and deliberate pace. Witness the fact that no one (including Apple) yet has a retina display on a tablet.

Apple could of course start with the smaller Macbook Pros; a 13" retina display is plausible. But I don't see them limiting such a premium feature to their lowest end model (without discrete graphics). So when might we see a 15" or 17" retina display? I'm not holding my breath, but I'll be pleasantly surprised to be proved wrong. Clearly Apple has something in mind here...
 
I wear glasses. I need to look into contacts though, getting tired of the glasses after 25 odd years of wearing them.
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Wearing glasses has little if anything to do with it. I've worn glasses for about 40 years, but it means nothing in this context. Look up "Presbyopia". In middle age your eye lenses become inelastic and you lose your ability to change focus. So in the future you're going to either get used to switching to reading glasses or bifocals or displays with bigger fonts. Bigger fonts is the only option that isn't a PITA.
 
Oh please, the Mac has huge fonts everywhere. It looks like a blind guy designed the UI.

Or you have bionic eyes?

I don’t see a thing when my 27" is at its native resolution. 22 years old, and I used to wear glasses back then but my eyes are fixed now.
 
This doesn't change my point. I buy higher pixel count monitors to get more content and less UI elements on screen.

But what if future full screen application, including the finder, will have not UI elements (unless you call them on screen)?
 
Am I the only one who read about the 15" MBP with a 2880x1800 display and thought I would LOVE to leave the display at a 1:1 resolution (no "retina" bs) and just have more screen real estate? :)

Well, buttons would be super tiny along with fonts.

I'd rather them just build resolution independence and allow you to choose what scale you want everything at.

Since I already have the high-res screen then having the space of a 1440x900 monitor would be a downgrade for me.

And besides, I don't really see the point of retina on a laptop or desktop, I can't even see the pixels on my current screen unless I am less than 12" away.
 
Hmm, not on a 15 inch imo. I think the current 1920 by whatever resolution is fine for a 15 inch, but would only want to see a 2560+ resolution on a 17 inch screen.

I currently have an older 30" super-cinema-display behemoth. If it could be on a 20" monitor, I'd be very happy. That's probably where it is going sooner or later. Then we'll have 30" displays with 6000+ res.
 
Wearing glasses has little if anything to do with it. I've worn glasses for about 40 years, but it means nothing in this context. Look up "Presbyopia". In middle age your eye lenses become inelastic and you lose your ability to change focus. So in the future you're going to either get used to switching to reading glasses or bifocals or displays with bigger fonts. Bigger fonts is the only option that isn't a PITA.

I'm used to wearing glasses and I do know about aging and "presbyopia". I keep that in mind all the time don't worry. I still wish for more stuff on screen, not sharper things on screen when I upgrade the pixel count.
 
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I presume that the OP meant that images would be 4x as large: 1440x900 to 2880x1800 is surely a 4x increase in resolution not 2x.
 
This new system seems far easier to support than the previous system which tried to support an arbitrary number of resolutions with elements described in vectors or multiple bitmaps.
I hate Macrumors' bias. Seriously, right now, in Windows, you can use "resolution independence" to drive a "retina" display, without ANY extra work on the programming side. The OS scales everything itself!
 
I'm a massive fan of the retina display on my iPhone 4 and am holding out until Apple release a retina display iPad.

However, I have to agree that on a desktop I would prefer more screen real estate before they start making things sharper. Desktop monitors aren't like handheld devices that you hold near to your eyes. I sit across the desk from my iMac.

On a laptop however, retina would be awesome…
 
This is a beautiful day of news/updates.

But a 15" MBP with that kind of resolution? I wouldn't want to play a game at that res, the FPS would drop like a rock. Still awesome though.
 
great.....now we're going to have the retina display discussion for macs as well :eek:

Let me save everybody some time from posting:

"If it doesn't have 3D Retina and 9,660 x 4,812 and doesn't come in white and isn't FREE and I can't get it without an unlimited data plan for accounting reasons and if it is not tethered by Verizon, I won't buy it!

Shame on you Apple! Money grabbing slipping company.

Apple just wants us all to get bad eyesight (isight) so we will have to buy their next "one more thing" revolutionary magical product
the IcanSeeClearlyNow iglasses. We are very excited about this!

My current Dell XP1280 x 904 is much faster on the refresh and last week the picture was so real, I gained 5 pounds watching a TGI Friday's commercial.

Clearly Apple is falling behind.

That should do it for a while......one can only hope:)

Forgot: I call this technology FAKE! This is not from an Asian supplier or analyst.
You read it here first. Check out my blog : www.Idon'tKnow$$H@t, but I post.com
 
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I hate Macrumors' bias. Seriously, right now, in Windows, you can use "resolution independence" to drive a "retina" display, without ANY extra work on the programming side. The OS scales everything itself!

Does it scale bitmap graphics? does it do so perfectly? OS X does scaling for many things, it is mathematically impossible to add detail when scaling an image. By using images and vectors designed for the native resolution, you will get far better results than you would with interpolation.
 
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