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This actually represents a big shift in Mac OS X's representation of apps. The typical "light" indicator under each launched application is gone from the Mac OS X Lion dock.

I didnt even know about these lights before reading this article, so those wont be missed :)
 
This is really interesting, bring these items together.

  1. SSD hard drives in new mac book air
  2. Mac App Store guidelines that applications must not generate excessive heat
  3. No application open indicator in the dock
  4. No flash plug in installed.

If they can do this correctly (and i suspect that they can) this will be the biggest revolution in desktop OSs since the original mac.

They want to create a new model of desktop operating system where instead of managing a 'task list' of applications that are open you just click on the icon and go right back to where you were.

Mac OS X developers in future will be expected to spend a lot of time fine tuning applications to make sure that the performance is acceptable. This will have great benefits for the user - as they will really start to see the performance from their computers, rather than have it sucked up by lazy coding of applications that needlessly use too many processor cycles or memory (yes flash plug in, i'm looking directly at you).

I fully expect some model to replace the existing finder for user's documents too. First version will be a bit weird but by 10.8 it will be fying.
 
My guess is that there will be some other kind of indication that an aplication is currently running, such as an animated icon for the running ones or dimmed icons for closed applications.
 
How about a very dim (dimmer than hidden apps) light indicator for sleeping apps and the current luminance for running apps?

I love the new scroll bars!
 
This is really interesting, bring these items together.

  1. SSD hard drives in new mac book air
  2. Mac App Store guidelines that applications must not generate excessive heat
  3. No application open indicator in the dock
  4. No flash plug in installed.

If they can do this correctly (and i suspect that they can) this will be the biggest revolution in desktop OSs since the original mac.

They want to create a new model of desktop operating system where instead of managing a 'task list' of applications that are open you just click on the icon and go right back to where you were.

Mac OS X developers in future will be expected to spend a lot of time fine tuning applications to make sure that the performance is acceptable. This will have great benefits for the user - as they will really start to see the performance from their computers, rather than have it sucked up by lazy coding of applications that needlessly use too many processor cycles or memory (yes flash plug in, i'm looking directly at you).

I fully expect some model to replace the existing finder for user's documents too. First version will be a bit weird but by 10.8 it will be fying.

+1,000,000,000

You hit the nail right on the head. This is what I'm trying to say but it's slightly past 1 AM and I'm tired/drowsy. :cool:
 
Nope it's not. Not swapping in RAM, but swapping in the proprietary SSD (MBA one) that Apple will put in future Macs. It's like a stick of RAM remember? SSD will essentially become "RAM". Or rather, when you exit the app it will save it's current state to a cache file of some sort onto the SSD or HD. Then when it is opened again, it will start from that cache. Before, you wanted to minimize swapping because flash was expensive as heck. Now, prices are dropping but Apple's proprietary SSD is even cheaper due to lack of certain components found in traditional SSDs. I think Apple will have their special SSD that is currently in the MBAs in all the Macs.

That makes no sense. SSDs excel primarily at reads, but swapping requires writes. Moreover you want to reduce writes to SSDs to prevent wear. Also, what is your source on Apple's flash memory being cheaper? I think you're making things up.

Transfer speeds will be as fast as RAM and most of your data will be stored in the cloud in iDisk or something similar to that.

Oh, now you're definitely just making things up.
 
I see that App Store and iTunes icons look awfully similar. Does this mean that in the final release they might change their other application icons to that.. "look"?

I like the iOS scroll bars, however.
 
ALSO you can now resize the windows from any corner, again, works nicely.

So then, they've added a feature from Windows 95 to an OS revision inspired by a mobile phone.

Uhh-MAZE-ing!!! :p
 
I didnt even know about these lights before reading this article, so those wont be missed :)

Yah, i didn't know about them for awhile once i came back to the mac world. Been a mac user since mac classic, and up to the first iMac, but went to the PC for a few years, and came back in '07 with an aluminum iMac. First few months with OS X and i didn't know they existed either. They are handy if you can see them, but in all honesty, they don't exactly... stand out... Their color is too close to that of the dock to stand out enough for me to consider them useful enough to care if they vanished tomorrow. So i wont miss them.

EDIT: Plus, they're freakin tiny o_O
 
This is really interesting, bring these items together.

  1. SSD hard drives in new mac book air
  2. Mac App Store guidelines that applications must not generate excessive heat
  3. No application open indicator in the dock
  4. No flash plug in installed.

If they can do this correctly (and i suspect that they can) this will be the biggest revolution in desktop OSs since the original mac.

They want to create a new model of desktop operating system where instead of managing a 'task list' of applications that are open you just click on the icon and go right back to where you were.

Mac OS X developers in future will be expected to spend a lot of time fine tuning applications to make sure that the performance is acceptable. This will have great benefits for the user - as they will really start to see the performance from their computers, rather than have it sucked up by lazy coding of applications that needlessly use too many processor cycles or memory (yes flash plug in, i'm looking directly at you).

I fully expect some model to replace the existing finder for user's documents too. First version will be a bit weird but by 10.8 it will be fying.

I can most definitely see that working well when you have people like me that constantly use Logic Pro, Photoshop, After Effects, Premiere and the occasional Steam game or World of Warcraft and don't reboot at all unless there was a blackout.
 
Actually, it is better. Loading from the HD also involves going through lines of code once everything is loaded. This way, all it has to do is load, and it's done.

Does that mean it's going to be faster to load apps? That would be really convenient!
 
In the whole presentiation of Lion, I didn't really understand if we are going to loose Spaces. If so, I can't imagine the so called "Mission Control" to organize more than 5 or 6 applications with many windows properly: it could just be a huge mess, like Exposé before Snow Leopard (where finally the windows are well orgnized). Moreover, Spaces is now a paradigm: it won't be easy to change completely your way to work...

In summary: I hope Spaces is going to be still there or that Mission Control is going to improve a lot from what has been shown at the Keynote (it just seems a toy model now).
 
That makes no sense. SSDs excel primarily at reads, but swapping requires writes. Moreover you want to reduce writes to SSDs to prevent wear. Also, what is your source on Apple's flash memory being cheaper? I think you're making things up.



Oh, now you're definitely just making things up.

Apple didn't have to factor in manufacturing markups. They just bought the flash chips themselves, not an entire SSD. That's how they managed to stuff a 256GB SSD (a traditional one is like half the cost of the 13" MBA) in the MBA. I'm sure flash memory will become more advanced and allow you to write more without wearing it down too much. Technology becomes better over time.
 
Yah, i didn't know about them for awhile once i came back to the mac world. Been a mac user since mac classic, and up to the first iMac, but went to the PC for a few years, and came back in '07 with an aluminum iMac. First few months with OS X and i didn't know they existed either. They are handy if you can see them, but in all honesty, they don't exactly... stand out... Their color is too close to that of the dock to stand out enough for me to consider them useful enough to care if they vanished tomorrow. So i wont miss them.

EDIT: Plus, they're freakin tiny o_O
They're just picture files. If you're handy with Terminal it's no big deal to change them to something more noticable. I went with black arrows like previous osx versions had.
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Apple didn't have to factor in manufacturing markups. They just bought the flash chips themselves, not an entire SSD. That's how they managed to stuff a 256GB SSD (a traditional one is like half the cost of the 13" MBA) in the MBA. I'm sure flash memory will become more advanced and allow you to write more without wearing it down too much. Technology becomes better over time.

You love making stuff up. YOU LOVE IT!
 
First thing I did with my new mac is download tinkertool and ditched the shiny reflective dock, silly eye candy. If apple don't allow the indicators, hopefully they will still be there hidden and a tool like tinkertool can re-enable them.
 
First part is correct. That's what I believe but I could be wrong since no one has Lion except the high execs at Apple. Remember, Apple wants to put SSDs in all the Macs. No way would they develop that MBA SSD just for the MBA. Apple likes to cycle technology. Retina display first came on the iPhone 4, then iPod touch and probably iPad 2. Same thing with the A4 chip. iPsd, iPhone and then iPod touch. They don't develop one thing and just let one product have that technology. Remember the unibody chassis? Glass multitouch trackpad? Touchscreen? Apple knows SSDs are expensive but are the future of computers.

Apple didn't "develop" the SSD. The SSD is from Toshiba and there doesn't appear to be a single custom chip on it. And honestly this SSD is probably going to be slower than high end SSDs or they would be advertising its performance.

iFixit teardown of Macbook Air

Let's not kid ourselves here. Apple doesn't develop new hardware technologies. They are damn good at synthesizing new ones in amazing ways, but they don't make innovations at the level of computer architecture.
 
Hmm, if apple is indeed going the iOS route of app management I have to wonder how exactly apps will handle in the background. Will this be like windows, when you close a window, you essentially close the app?

If so, I don't like this idea. Yes, you can save the state for later, but what about apps that run in the background, like Transmission, Skype, Mail, iTunes? What kind of background processes are these going to get? Do I have to leave a window open if I'm doing something intensive? Will this make spaces more popular (if indeed lots of windows will need to be open?)

SO MANY QUESTIONS!!
 
it appears that Mac OS X applications are no longer depicted as launched or unlaunched in the Mac OS X Dock:


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Top: Lion; Bottom: Snow Leopard
This is a considerable usability degradation. I often use the lights under active apps to determine whether or not a need to launch or can just switch.
But it appears that Apple has retained the ugly and pointless 3D effect of the dock. :rolleyes:
 
Apple didn't "develop" the SSD. The SSD is from Toshiba and there doesn't appear to be a single custom chip on it. And honestly this SSD is probably going to be slower than high end SSDs or they would be advertising its performance.

iFixit teardown of Macbook Air

Let's not kid ourselves here. Apple doesn't develop new hardware technologies. They are damn good at synthesizing new ones in amazing ways, but they don't make innovations at the level of computer architecture.

I meant they made it proprietary instead of buying a traditional enclosure SSD from Kingston, OWC, etc. I even said earlier that Apple bought flash memory chips individually. So yea, let's not kid ourselves here.
 
This seems like a bad idea. I hardly think the lights were intrusive and this will just complicate matters for those who do any performance tasks. After all, you don't want to let a chess engine like Shredder analyze a position while other programs have eaten up half the RAM.

I hope OS X doesn't become the next iOS where Apple owns, provides and controls EVERYTHING. Apple would love to restrict all applications that can be installed on OS X to just their new App Store. We no longer have functional monarchies and have moved on to democracy... why regress when it comes to technology? ;) Then again, greed makes the world go round... and Apple has shown no lack of it when it comes to their hardware upgrades. For instance, upgrading from the 620M to the 640M costs $14 more for them yet they charge over $200. Don't even let me get into their absurd memory prices for relatively slow SSDs etc.
 
the scroll bar is a nice touch (cosmetic but not really beneficial in terms of user friendliness, performance etc), while the resume app thing makes it really ambiguous which programmes are running in the background -- this pause/resume thing will not truly pause. (maybe command tab but still it's not good... taking from what they've "learnt" from making iphones and ipads and putting them back on the mac... not really a good justification.
 
Apple didn't "develop" the SSD. The SSD is from Toshiba and there doesn't appear to be a single custom chip on it. And honestly this SSD is probably going to be slower than high end SSDs or they would be advertising its performance.

iFixit teardown of Macbook Air

Let's not kid ourselves here. Apple doesn't develop new hardware technologies. They are damn good at synthesizing new ones in amazing ways, but they don't make innovations at the level of computer architecture.

LightPeak. An Apple idea, being developed by intel by request of Apple. You're right, they don't often do much hardware-level innovation, but in this case, they sure did.
 
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