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Bit underwhelmed.....

I am also a bit disappointed: snowleopard was not much different compaired to leopard and now this. Less choice (I also do like the little lights below the programms). I do like the concept of a ''App store'' for the Mac and I quess it will beocme very popular as it is easy and you feel that big brother has examined and approved it....

Apply needs to come out with some good improvements soon.....
 
I am also a bit disappointed: snowleopard was not much different compaired to leopard and now this. Less choice (I also do like the little lights below the programms). I do like the concept of a ''App store'' for the Mac and I quess it will beocme very popular as it is easy and you feel that big brother has examined and approved it....

Apply needs to come out with some good improvements soon.....

I foresee a coming wave of improvements in the near future. I'm psychic!! Or maybe i just watched the keynote...

EDIT: Oh yah, and wasn't one of the macrumors rumors prior to the keynote about some sort of "Dropbox" killer? It could have been a wishful rumor based off of the fact that apple has a giant datacenter in north carolina, but it sure would make sense that this would be a feature of Lion, soon to be released.
 
It's odd, but I had completely forgotten that COMMAND + Tab was an option on OS X, until someone mentioned it in this thread. I guess I'm just used to using Spaces and Expose.
 
I'm a minimalist. I like having just a few things in my dock. I keep like, 12 apps in my dock that I use all the time + a few other apps pop up on my dock as I open them and go away as I close them. If there's no way to close apps in lion, doesn't that mean my dock is going to eventually be crowded with all 60+ apps installed on my computer?

I already dislike the way double clicking home will let me page through every app I've opened on my iPhone since the last restart...

I seriously dislike this entire idea unless apple is planning on taking the dock in a completely new direction... Although I can't imagine a new direction I would appreciate.
 
EDIT: Actually, now that i think about it, this might mean that we'll be quitting apps far more than before. From the sounds of it, it's possible that all apps will have their state saved to disk so you can easily quit it at any time. Sort of like hibernation mode, except that it's for apps, not for the OS.

This is what I was thinking. I run multiple VMs for work, iMovie and Keynote with my 8GB RAM on my iMac and sometimes Safari, Chrome and Firefox tend to bloat in size (especially with Flash plugin running -- sometimes when just hitting sites with lots of JavaScript) -- not to mention iTunes-10 bloating after time. So I leave ActivityMonitor running with its dock icon displaying the memory-usage pie chart. When I run short, I just quit the apps I don't need anymore.

If OSX could start hibernating entire apps to disk automatically, that would rock. However, there is a fine line. Many OSX apps run background services for syncing to iPhone and such. Others run periodic things in the background. Full hibernation of an app to disk would not be good, so they are going to have to come up with some cool way of handling this.

Additionally, for the apps with memory leaks that bloat over time (e.g.: Flash, Safari, Firefox, Chrome, iTunes), I don't want them expanding on disk only to be reactivated with their overgrown size. I'm still going to have to manually quit and restart those apps to properly manage memory.
 
What is wrong with you? "Apple missed the chance"? Apple is going to be releasing more features. They did not miss any chance. There are going to be more events, and at those events, they'll unveil a whole new bunch of Lion features. I'm starting to get tired of all the crying. What they showed wasn't Lion. If Leopard is any evidence, odds are what they showed us are elements of Lion running on Snow Leopard, like they did with Leopard elements running on tiger. I guarantee that you haven't yet seen all that Lion has to offer. Calm down. Until apple finishes announcing all of Lion's features, any judgments are premature.

Thank You! that's exactly what I think! and most people seem just too limited to understand Apple's views.

I am seriously considering not upgrading to Lion.
In my opinion, apple has ruined the mac. :(

I am seriously considering laughing at you.
In my opinion, ditch apple and mac, and the world will be a better place.
IT WAS A SNEAK PEAK! A PREVIEW! A DEMONSTRATION OF 1% OF WHAT IS TO COME FROM LION! THEY STILL HAVE A FULL YEAR BEFORE PRESENTING THE FINAL PRODUCT! GOD!

BAH, i give up. So much crying about an OS that the majority of us have very little info about. I'm done in this thread.:rolleyes:

Right behind you!
 
Strangeness

OK, so I thought I was going crazy last week. I downloaded the Facetime beta, and suddenly my iTunes and Safari "application open" lights were gone. I know the apps were running while the lights were out. I puzzled on it for a day or two. After rebooting my MacBook for something else I noticed that they were back. Wonder if there were some unintentional early inclusions in the Facetime beta? Very curious happenings...
 
I definitely want to know what is running! NOT COOL

cmd-tab

It'll probably have an iOS-like or iOS-inspired application switcher too.
And APIs for iOS-like multitasking which may be useful for certain classes of desktop application, allowing for even greater battery life for MacBooks.
 
No, it's not. Because I am informed. I have read the information Apple have presented to us and I don't like what I've heard.
For the same reasons I didn't upgrade to Vista and still haven't seen any need to upgrade to Windows 7.

You're *still* using that pile of garbage MS released nearly 10 years ago?? Jeezus . . .
 
No, it's not. Because I am informed. I have read the information Apple have presented to us and I don't like what I've heard.
For the same reasons I didn't upgrade to Vista and still haven't seen any need to upgrade to Windows 7.

You'll see a reason shortly, as a fair amount of programs are being developed not to work on XP.
 
Have any of you here considered this:

Before they scrap Mac OS X development completely (and that is likely the case with all the focus on the iPhone etc) then why not do what Steve and co. just presented? Why not bring the two OSes together?

There will be blood and dissent, I know. I also fear that Apple will inevitably dumb down OS X in its future iterations leaving many pros stranded. This is indeed pity. Apple’s vision dictates differently and knows no mercy.
 
If i understand correctly, the programs you close now are really closed but some processes can keep running. So you would close Colloquy, freeze its state, but you would stay online, like the iOS version, and it would just resume were it left when you closed it. Thats just awesome no? If you really want to totally close it, just close it with command+tab, and done. But since its just a process in the background instead of a full program running it wouldn't be a problem to leave it running. Looking very much forward to this!

I like the scrollbars

And i really like the corner resizing. I thought that was a simple but effective feature that should've been in Mac OS all along. Glad its coming.
 
I have a new iPod Touch. I regularly have to close apps to free up RAM. That kinda sucks.

The music player part of the application is running. It's probably quite small, apart from the buffer memory for playback, which would hopefully only be active when playing.

It's UIs that take up memory, both on phones and on desktop apps. These aren't present on the service, so you don't need to worry as much about what a sensible and reasonable background application is doing to your RAM.
 
Have any of you here considered this:

Before they scrap Mac OS X development completely (and that is likely the case with all the focus on the iPhone etc) then why not do what Steve and co. just presented? Why not bring the two OSes together?

There will be blood and dissent, I know. I also fear that Apple will inevitably dumb down OS X in its future iterations leaving many pros stranded. This is indeed pity. Apple’s vision dictates differently and knows no mercy.

You still need a real open OS to develop iOS apps, to photoshop, to make music, to do some decent textediting, to ... to create anything really. As long as Mac OS keeps doing what is does now, i don't mind iOS features in the desktop OS. It can only make the experience so much more fun.
 
It's UIs that take up memory, both on phones and on desktop apps. These aren't present on the service, so you don't need to worry as much about what a sensible and reasonable background application is doing to your RAM.

The UI is not loaded either while the window is hidden. Unless you're a very piss poor programmer, there's no reason to not just delete any UI objects.

iOS multi-tasking is plain dumb. Macs aren't hardware "limited" like iOS devices are (they aren't btw, another topic for another thread), we don't need to limit this stuff and removing quick visual cues for notifications that require keyboard or mouse input is counter-productive.

There's more to this than meets the eye. Let's wait and see what Apple really has up their sleeves.
 
I like the idea of the scroll bars except I will miss this blue scroll bar:(.......But I hate the dock. I'm hoping it changes, or it's an option. don't want to hit anything else to know what apps are open. I like the idea of auto-saving and apps resuming where they left off except.....what about private browsing?
 
We can speculate about this (that's what this site is for) but why are people complaining about a little feature of an OS that won't be released for at least 8 months? A lot can change before then. Speculation is fine but complaining about this is pointless until we know more about it.
 
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