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Serious question: 20% of my company now run Mac. How am I supposed to do a group license buy, if I have to do it through the Mac App Store? Kind of a pain in the butt.

How clicking download is any hard than keep putting DVD in and out a tower?
 
it will probably end up getting ripped one way or another for backup purposes. seriously, how do you think people will go about restoring their new macs that come with lion preinstalled? unless ofcourse apple starts selling computers with a secondary hard drive. they'll either continue including backup dvd's or usb drives like with macbook air. i just don't see them phasing out the dvd drive just yet, because a lot of the software today is still sold on cd's.
 
i'm kinda skeptical about this too...i was planning on doing a fresh install of this as well and i'll be slightly disappointed if that's not an option. the 4gig download thing isn't a big deal to me but it's weird they don't even offer it physically, i guess they just really want to get everyone on the mac app store bandwagon (i personally think it's totally unnecessary and kind of annoying frankly)

i also really hope you can turn off the stupid ios things they've brought over to lion (disappearing scroll bars for instance - i like knowing how far down a page i am, and the reversed scrolling on trackpads - years of going one way why would i want to switch it just to make it more iphone-like)

all in all i'm not totally convinced by lion, i'll upgrade eventually i guess once i'm sure everything i've gotten used to in snow leopard will work in lion. i'm way more excited for ios 5
 
I guess I'm lucky and can download this. I can quite understand those on slow internet connections being annoyed though. Perhaps a version too early.

A UK price of £20-25 (I guess) for both my Macs? Count me in! :)

Edit - thinking about it £30 is probably more like it but even so... much cheaper than expected.

It's £20.99 in the UK.
 
im sure if you have slow internet connections or data caps then you will be able to take it to an apple store and do the download over their wi-fi connection
 
Maybe it'll come with the option to burn it to a DVD? I hope-so, as I've been delaying a wipe of my machine in anticipation of Lion as it didn't seem worth doing if I'd be updating the OS not long after.

But if you can't wipe your machine then how in the heck do people without a DVD of Snow Leopard do it?
 
I guess I don't understand one thing: If someone is running an older version of OS X that does not support the app store, how are they supposed to upgrade?

And what about troubleshooting, disk repair, etc that normally requires booting from external media?

Maybe Apple will keep selling snow leopard so you can buy that and then upgrade. I don't know, I don't think Apple thought this through too much they should have waited until the oldest computers to support the OS came with 10.6 before they switched to digital download only, maybe we would all have enough bandwidth to actually upgrade by then too.
 
I wonder how a clean install works? I wonder if the App Store download includes a disk image of the installer. If so that sounds good to me. I'd rather download it the day it's released than wait for a DVD.
 
it will probably end up getting ripped one way or another for backup purposes. seriously, how do you think people will go about restoring their new macs that come with lion preinstalled? unless ofcourse apple starts selling computers with a secondary hard drive. they'll either continue including backup dvd's or usb drives like with macbook air. i just don't see them phasing out the dvd drive just yet, because a lot of the software today is still sold on cd's.

you will get a disc or usb drive only if you buy a new mac with Lion
alot more then $29
 
My internet speed is by no means the fastest. But it makes up for the fact I have no download cap so it will just take longer. Doesn't bother me.
 
So what disc comes with a new Mac. Even more incentive for me to wait for the Lion release and then some to make sure it comes preinstalled on my new iMac.

Would really have liked a release date and not a release month.
 
Maybe it'll come with the option to burn it to a DVD? I hope-so, as I've been delaying a wipe of my machine in anticipation of Lion as it didn't seem worth doing if I'd be updating the OS not long after.

But if you can't wipe your machine then how in the heck do people without a DVD of Snow Leopard do it?

Have you ever installed Mac OS X?

This is not Windows. You don't 'Format C:' and then boot from the DVD drive.

Just run the Lion installer and it will do the formatting while installing Lion.
 
Back to what another user said, so we need more details about the multiple users purchase.

So as a household that has 5 macs, will each machine have to download the 4Gb file, or will they make it possible to flash drive a dmg? Or are they going to force each user to download via the app store?

This isn't a huge deal breaker for me, as I usually file the DVD upgrade forever (unless something goes wrong and I have to reinstall on a clean drive, which has happened once to me). But 4Gb times 5 computers turns into 20Gb, which could take some serious time to download.
 
So what disc comes with a new Mac. Even more incentive for me to wait for the Lion release and then some to make sure it comes preinstalled on my new iMac.

Would really have liked a release date and not a release month.

Probably they will give it too you on a USB stick, or I could also see them having a database of serial numbers of macs that shipped with Lion, and if you serial number maches a computer that shipped with lion it becomes a free download.
 
I'm just curious as to how we are supposed to access the system tools like when booting from the OS install disk. Sounds like if you need a reinstall or something like that, you'll have to ask apple first. I'll have to make sure that I still have the control I want over it before I download. If not, SL it is.
 
Yeah, oddly though any other $30 app equates to £17.99 - I ran on assumption, I was wrong. Still...an odd way to work - good price in any case.

You forgot to add the VAT in the UK. It's either 17.5% or 20%. Either way, with VAT added, it's more than 21 UK pounds.
 
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No DVD is not a good thing for me. Problems with users that don't have snow leopard, multiple macs means multiple downloads? Think of a company with a few hundreds computers. Mac App store purchases can't also be deducted here in Italy. I hope they'll give us the DVD as an option!
 
Just a quick question. Can I use those itunes gift cards to buy Lion on the Mac App store? Or any other program there
 
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