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Mac OS X Quicktime, OpenGL Enhancements Coming?

I don't think they will drop it in 10.5. G3 support, probably, but not G4 and G5 considering that they even still sell PPC referbs. I mean I dunno but I would think that as long as you can still buy a PPC Mac from Apple directly, then they would have to have support in their OS. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that it will be a while before they completely drop the PPC architecture in terms of OS X support.
 
guzhogi said:
I wonder if Apple will pull a M$ and ditch PowerPC in 10.5. Doubt it....Only advantage of dropping PowerPC, is more simplified code base. Instead of having to write code for 2 different hardware platforms, they'll just have 1 hardware platform making it easier to write new versions of Mac OS X.
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No, even if they dropped PPC support (which they will not in 10.5, and they will not in 10.6...maybe in 10.7), they'd still have two platforms to code for: Intel and ARM (iPhone).

One of the great strengths of OS X is that it is hardware agnostic, and once all the devs have moved to XCode (i.e., once MSFT ships Office 2k8 later this year), there is very little effort required to maintain a codebase that runs on Intel and PPC (and potentially other platforms too).

Going forward you are going to see OS X become MORE hardware agnostic, not less.
 
I don't really get what this means...Like I know quite a bit about computers, but this "open gl?" and other stuff....can somone explain to me what this REALLY means...
 
Clive At Five said:
Anyone else have 2 cents to share on the issue?
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My intuition / guess:

10.5: ditch G3
10.6: ditch PPC

I wouldn't be at all surprised if 10.6 were Intel only, and Apple had good excuses for it thanks to another longer release cycle. It just seems to me that the days of new year / new OS X are behind us. Not Vista bad, goodness no, but less hectic than back before Tiger since so much is in place now.

Also I foresee a bright and crucial future for Core Animation but that's another story.
 
psychofreak said:
Mmm...ThinkSecret, I think I would rather trust my 10 year old sister...
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TS used to be one of the most accurate Apple sites, far more so than Appleinsider or even Macrumors, especially back in the day.

I wouldn't blow off a report like this.
 
job said:
TS used to be one of the most accurate Apple sites, far more so than Appleinsider or even Macrumors, especially back in the day.

I wouldn't blow off a report like this.
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There are always going to be improvements, and things such as 'Quicktime will be improved' are not so useful to me...

What I am blowing off is the idea that TS has reliable inside sources...probably the same ones that got so much other stuff wrong...
 
Interesting to see exciting things being worked on for Leopard that are not in the developer previews.

A sign of more to come…?
 
Clive At Five said:
How much longer do you think Apple will support the PowerPC?? I realize that newer versions of OS X often INCREASE performance in older machines, but it almost seems they want to ditch the PowerPC... perhaps even more quickly than they did OS 9. I could be wrong though.

Anyone else have 2 cents to share on the issue?

-Clive
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IMHO it is coming soon, a lot of vendors are releasing Intel only versions, or optimized for Intel. Even Adobe has been doing some of that.
 
I remember being blown away by seeing a G5 tower running 4 :)eek: ) Quicktime movies at the same time without stuttering...

Anyway, yes yes... good...

Umm,

I wish all games companies were like Blizzard. From my experience with Warcraft III I think they basically make the game for Mac + PC and ship it all on one DVD. This is definitely the way ahead...

Although some DirectX/Windows emulation in Mac OS X would be great to see, so I could load up all my old PC games... VMWare Fusion has some initial support, but it's not good yet.

Also, intel support being dropped... I know this is the modern world and all, and things do move on, but if you think about it the first Intel iMacs were shipping about a year ago, was it? I almost can't believe some companies are dropping PPC support already... Though I can see it being a PITA for many to still support PPC...

PPCITA!! (sorry)
 
Good, but what about Panther

I think OpenGL could be improved, but updating QuickTime would risk Panther (10.3.9) being an unsuported system.
 
psychofreak said:
Hardware h.264 encoding perhaps...
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Elgato is making a USB dingle that does hardware H.264 encoding. Those things are real screamers and take off most of the CPU load. Cost around 100-130 dollars and should be out in a month or so. Keep checking their website.
 
guy4apple said:
I think OpenGL could be improved, but updating QuickTime would risk Panther (10.3.9) being an unsuported system.
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That is generally what happens. Only the 2 latest OS's get updates (for the previous OS it is generally just security updates).

When Tiger came out Jaguar became unsupported. I am sure that when Leopard comes out then Panther will be laid to rest.

Which is a personal shame because my first mac, Rev A iMac came with Panther so i have a sort of bond with it. However on the flipside means I am even further along my OS X journey which has to be good.

Leopard will be on a pre-order as soon as I can, just like Tiger was before it.
 
macrumors12345 said:
No, even if they dropped PPC support (which they will not in 10.5, and they will not in 10.6...maybe in 10.7), they'd still have two platforms to code for: Intel and ARM (iPhone).

One of the great strengths of OS X is that it is hardware agnostic, and once all the devs have moved to XCode (i.e., once MSFT ships Office 2k8 later this year), there is very little effort required to maintain a codebase that runs on Intel and PPC (and potentially other platforms too).

Going forward you are going to see OS X become MORE hardware agnostic, not less.
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Believe it or not, but XCode just does not work for big software projects. Even the new one that will be out with leopard lacks features necessary for big software development. Most open source projects use XCode, but most commercial software relies on more elaborate systems. I bet a lot of people are actually using visual studio on PCs and have some sorts of plugins to compile for OSX...
 
guy4apple said:
I think OpenGL could be improved, but updating QuickTime would risk Panther (10.3.9) being an unsuported system.
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It is not being developed any more, so it is already unsupported in those terms.
Many of the new OS features are only usable with what ever the current update is.
 
ElderscrollsV said:
can anyone explain to me what this all means????
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The rapture is coming! :D

To keep it simple: 3D stuff, videos and Core Animation (the new feature in Leopard that enables super smooth transitions) will run better.

I wish they would use core animation for when I switch between the views (Icon, List, Column) in Finder. Imagine the items in the right column (in column view) zooming into place and morphing into the big preview icons. It's actually super easy to do with core animation, very fun to play around. If you're an ADC member, download an open source project and try to add core animation effects everywhere. Only then will you grasp the potential of that API. :eek:
 
hob said:
Also, intel support being dropped... I know this is the modern world and all, and things do move on, but if you think about it the first Intel iMacs were shipping about a year ago, was it? I almost can't believe some companies are dropping PPC support already... Though I can see it being a PITA for many to still support PPC...
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What software dropped PPC support? Don't mention Adobe CS3 because they did not drop PPC support. Everything that was available on PPC in CS2 will be available for PPC in CS3. They only added some stuff that only existed for X86 (for Windows) so was easy to port. They had two options, just release it for Intel or not release it at all. I'm glad they choose the first option, especially given the fact all power hungry CS users will be on Intel anyway.
 
Anything AAPL can do to put a dent in MSFT's DirectX10 PR train has got to be a good thing. It would be so totally sweet if Leopard could be released with graphic benchmarks that leave Veeesta in the dust.

PS. Check out the Spam piece on my blog (below) if you want a good giggle (sorry for the shameless plug but I think you'll really like it).
 
I've seen a few people complain about Tiger feeling as if it wasn't optimised for the Intel architecture and I don't know if that's true or not (what does anyone else think?).
I'm hoping that relevations such as these allude to better support for newer hardware i.e. software that makes better use of what's available.
For example, I'd like to see Leopard perform better than Tiger on intel Macs and although I don't see them dropping support for PPC for a while, I expect or at least hope for them attempt this even though people might claim that they are forgetting about a good chunk of thier customers.

I don't expect very much support to exist when 10.6 rolls around though.

EDIT:I'd really like to see hardware encoding but I'm slightly pessimistic about that being a possibility.
Quicktime, though, could be related to this.
 
job said:
TS used to be one of the most accurate Apple sites, far more so than Appleinsider or even Macrumors, especially back in the day.

I wouldn't blow off a report like this.
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Let's see since last summer, TS predicted Red iMacs, video iPods in October '06, then before Christmas '06, Blue-Ray drives in "early 2007", Leopard in March, iPhone in April. These are the ones that made into MacRumors, who knows what else it had. It is not that hard to predict intel MacBooks, 8-core Mac Pros or C2D MBPs "this Tuesday" countless times and be right at some point. It seems like the sources for TS has dried up.

Now, it is about MBP with LED backlights in first or second quarter, 4k+ resolution displays and FC Extreme at NAB. We'll see...
 
Vidd said:
I've seen a few people complain about Tiger feeling as if it wasn't optimised for the Intel architecture and I don't know if that's true or not (what does anyone else think?).
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I feel that Tiger on Intel was just a hack, felt very unpolished and buggy. I came across more bugs using OS X .4 on Intel than i did using 10.4.0 on PPC. It has gotten a lot better with 10.4.9 and the airport updates but there is still something there which is no quite right. I will be glad when 10.5 is released because it will be the first major release knowing full well that it will be used on intel machines and widely tested on the intel architecture that it being used on, rather than the pentium 4 dev boxes etc.
 
I think it's a good thing about the OpenGL thing.
I've noticed that World of Warcraft has improved A LOT on my MBP after Apple did their updates, I think 10.4.8 or 10.4.9. Also Blizz released some updates, so that was nice.
Soo...where's Leopard?
 
xUKHCx said:
I feel that Tiger on Intel was just a hack, felt very unpolished and buggy. I came across more bugs using OS X .4 on Intel than i did using 10.4.0 on PPC. It has gotten a lot better with 10.4.9 and the airport updates but there is still something there which is no quite right. I will be glad when 10.5 is released because it will be the first major release knowing full well that it will be used on intel machines and widely tested on the intel architecture that it being used on, rather than the pentium 4 dev boxes etc.
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Yeah i have noticed this too. I think that 10.5 will run much better on intel then its 10.4 counterpart.
 
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