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It is in the computing world. Also the intel transition was announced 3 years ago.

Anyone who bought a PPC Mac after the transition started (especially in 06 after some intel macs were already shipping) should have thought about it more carefully. Expecting Apple to support these machines for the long haul was stupid.

The people who did buy the first gen Intel Macs were hurting if they were trying to run CS2 and it made perfect sense to buy PPC if you wanted to be remotely productive
 
This is just the preview...

These requirements might only be for the preview. I don't think Apple would abandon the PPC machines this fast. The last ones released in late 2005.
 
What I dont understand

Why do we need a brand new OS already. I paid alot of money upgrading an entire dept to Leopard , these were all MacPros.
Now a new OS is coming in 12 months , this stinks.
 
Why do we need a brand new OS already. I paid alot of money upgrading an entire dept to Leopard , these were all MacPros.
Now a new OS is coming in 12 months , this stinks.

you don't have to upgrade to 10.6 when it comes out. apple will support 10.5 for a long time. heck, they still release updates for panther 10.3.9
 
Why do we need a brand new OS already. I paid alot of money upgrading an entire dept to Leopard , these were all MacPros.
Now a new OS is coming in 12 months , this stinks.

Why? That's nearly two years after the release of 10.5. Up until Panther there was a new OS X every year. A lot of people thought that the 2.5 years in between Tiger and Leopard was too long even.
 
So has anyone at the dev conference asked Apple if PPC will be supported or not?

This seems pretty silly that Apple has said nothing and people are having to guess based on various things - has there been any other info to clarify one way or another?
 
Was there ever any indication that the software would not be ready eventually? You are saying that there were people that bought a Quad G5 because they did not want to wait. Well, thats what they get for being impatient. From June 2005 onward, I seriously doubt Apple were selling a lot of hardware.

Unfortunately many people who use computers in the workplace do not have the luxury to opt to wait until new applications are available.

It amazes me how so many people here will apologise for Apple no matter what they do. In this case they are apologising for something that Apple may not even have done! These people are the only thing I don't like about being a Mac user.
 
So has anyone at the dev conference asked Apple if PPC will be supported or not?

This seems pretty silly that Apple has said nothing and people are having to guess based on various things - has there been any other info to clarify one way or another?
No need to ask Apple, everyone has jumped to conclusions already!
 
Why do we need a brand new OS already. I paid alot of money upgrading an entire dept to Leopard , these were all MacPros.
Now a new OS is coming in 12 months , this stinks.

Because your current computers will stop working when 10.6 is out?
 
PowerPC G5

The G5 story must be one of the saddest episodes in computing history.

Announced as the great bringer of hope, an actually fast and modern CPU produced by IBM for Apple, the G5 turned out to be the platform of choice for a mere two years and was quickly replaced with Intel's Core architecture.

It fell from grace a lot quicker than anybody expected.

I still remember the sensation it was and the commercials Apple made for it, the beginning of the new era where the PowerPC finally had a chance to take over the world again.
 
The G5 story must be one of the saddest episodes in computing history.

Announced as the great bringer of hope, an actually fast and modern CPU produced by IBM for Apple, the G5 turned out to be the platform of choice for a mere two years and was quickly replaced with Intel's Core architecture.

It fell from grace a lot quicker than anybody expected.

I still remember the sensation it was and the commercials Apple made for it, the beginning of the new era where the PowerPC finally had a chance to take over the world again.

IBM quickly found out development of the chip wasn't going to be profitable and Apple wasn't exactly helping matters.
 
mmm I'm pissed that iphone 2.0 software doesn't run on my *$#*@ powerbook.

Okay so not exactly the same thing here but....It's not like leopard will suddenly be worse once snow leopard is out. Think of it as an update to make leopard run faster on intel machines. You still have another 2.5 years or so before you aren't running the os with the latest features. And you don't have to spend $129 for the 'upgrade'.

Not a big deal here, even if it is true.
 
What?!?!? I can't install Snow Leopard on my Mac 512k???? This is an outrage! I only get 25 years of use out of it! I'm switching to Vista! I'm getting a Zune!
 
AHHHH - The PPC bashing begins...

goodbye ppc i will miss thee...not


I bet the vast majority of people on here were pro-PPC before the switch.

"PPC Macs blow intel outta the water"

I remember hearing how crappy intel was and how "superior" PPC is. Now that Apple is all intel, the Apple cool-aid drinkers are fawning over intel and bashing the PPC.

Dropping support for the G5 is a dumb idea. I thought these were "the fastest personal computer in the world" but after 2 years, they don't even deserve the chance to keep going forward?

And don't tell me that my $2200+ computer is "obsolete" after 2 years or even 4 years. It isn't an iMac. I can upgrade my internal components.
 
I bet the vast majority of people on here were pro-PPC before the switch.

"PPC Macs blow intel outta the water"

I remember hearing how crappy intel was and how "superior" PPC is. Now that Apple is all intel, the Apple cool-aid drinkers are fawning over intel and bashing the PPC.

Dropping support for the G5 is a dumb idea. I thought these were "the fastest persoanl computer in the world" but after 2 years, they don't even deserve the chance to keep going forward?

And don't tell me that my $2200+ computer is "obsolete" after 2 years or even 4 years. It isn't an iMac. I can upgrade my internal components.

Amen to that. Especially since Apple is still selling machines that are slower than the "obsolete" G5s.
 
The really sad part about this statement is the fact that the x86 based architecture should have been killed off about 5-10 years ago. :D Well you can't blame Intel for not trying... *cough* Itanic *cough* I mean Itanium.

x86 should never even have gotten started. It was a crippled architecture compared to others that were about to hit the market like Zilog's Z8000, Motorola's 68000, and National Semi's 32016. It was only because Intel rushed it out first and IBM picked it for its PC (a machine that was deliberately designed to underperform, so as not to compete with another IBM product), that we are still stuck with this architecture today. The brain-dead 8086 stuff, or "real mode" as it's known in DOS/Windows, still factors into software designs even now.
 
It's not like leopard will suddenly be worse once snow leopard is out.

Well actually it will make 10.5 suddenly worse since many new applications will start using 10.6 only APIs very quickly.

Think of it as an update to make leopard run faster on intel machines.

No, think of Snow Leopard as the foundation for advancing Mac OS X well into the future and to produce a lighter weight, higher performing and more secure core OS with the potential to scale much further into the future. It will also provide a better platform for developers to bring a new generation of pervasively multithreaded applications to. Mac OS X 10.6 is about future-proofing Mac OS X.
 
I bet the vast majority of people on here were pro-PPC before the switch.

Yes we were, then things started to not quite add up.

"PPC Macs blow intel outta the water"

I remember hearing how crappy intel was and how "superior" PPC is. Now that Apple is all intel, the Apple cool-aid drinkers are fawning over intel and bashing the PPC.

Dropping support for the G5 is a dumb idea. I thought these were "the fastest persoanl computer in the world" but after 2 years, they don't even deserve the chance to keep going forward?

And don't tell me that my $2200+ computer is "obsolete" after 2 years or even 4 years. It isn't an iMac. I can upgrade my internal components.

Nobody has ever said anything about dropping support. Adding PowerPC code to an update to clean out all the legacy code in order to prepare for future versions of the OS defeats of the purpose.
 
Dropping support for the G5 is a dumb idea. I thought these were "the fastest personal computer in the world" but after 2 years, they don't even deserve the chance to keep going forward?

And don't tell me that my $2200+ computer is "obsolete" after 2 years or even 4 years. It isn't an iMac. I can upgrade my internal components.

Was the fastest at its time. But look how much technology in chips has advanced since then.

Your $2200 computer isn't obsolete at all. As previous people have said, OS X is pretty much fully optimized for PPC Mac's. However, it really isn't on the Intel side.

It is a year away anyway. Plenty could change in that time.
 
Amen to that. Especially since Apple is still selling machines that are slower than the "obsolete" G5s.

Steve Jobs does not like to support his previous technology whenever he uses a new technology. ADB, serial, SCSI, modems, floppies when he started Next, PPC & many, many others. Steve Jobs makes his share of of poor & many times incorrect decisions. I don't see where my Intel Mac Pro is any better than my son's G5 PowerMac!

Bill the TaxMan
 
Until 10.5 is EOL'd ppc still has support so ffs ****.

If you bought ppc after intel announcement you knew you were buying a dead platform and by the time of 10.5 EOL you probably got 5 years so quit whining.
 
I have not been living under a rock, I do understand that we've known this since 2005 that PPC would disappear, but the G5's are more than capable of work. They are 64 bit processors and the average consumer still wouldn't need the power the G5 provides.


This is exactly why i think they shouldn't drop support for the PPC just yet. I think they could drop Snow Leapord support for the G4s, but not the G5s. Apple, as i can remember, did advertise the G5's as a 64 bit system, but still haven't put out a 64 bit OS; and i don't think that they should drop support for the G5s until they do.
 
Was the fastest at its time. But look how much technology in chips has advanced since then.
It wasn't even the fastest at the time. Apple cherry picked systems and benchmarks so they could keep serving us the PowerPC Kool-Aid. Stock AMD 64 processors were just as fast running good x86-64 code.
 
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