Mac Pro 3.1, PSU/GPU/Ram issue ?

Natuch

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Mar 8, 2019
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Hi everyone,

Two weeks ago I got a Mac Pro 3.1 from a close who didn't used it as it didn't work anymore.
I first thought about using the case for my Hackintosher, then I turn it on for the first time and it worked well, everything ok excepted that the system only detected 1 ram stick
I then some swap on ram risers and I couldn't boot anymore (no chime).
I just got in working again once with all ram sticks on the B riser plugged in the top slot.

The Mac has 2* 2,8 Xeon, 4* 1Go DDR2 Ram, 2 HDD and an ATI GPU (don't remember the ref)

I would like now to repair it, I tried during two weeks to find the problem without success
I to boot with all combinations of HDD, Ram, GPU etc connected with the same result every time. I also tried SMC and RTC reset, change GPU of PCI port, nothing changed.
I checked all cable connections, everything is good. I also tried to warm the psi with an hair drier as advised here : https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2008-mac-pro-random-shut-down-help.1562408/
Did nothing

When I push the diag button I only get two leds on, le standby (yellow, it's ok) and the EFI (green, it's ok).
I should get the GPU and Power Leds on (green)
Manual with leds instructions : https://fr.scribd.com/doc/17539946/Mac-Pro-Early-2008 (page 154)

At this point I don't know where the problem comes from, I think it is PSU but I don't put away ram or GPU from the list

Any help would be greatly appreciated, I really would like to repair the beast instead of throwing the components away

Thank you in advance
 

tsialex

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If you can't post when using RISER-A, seems something into that part of the circuit is bad. I have one 2008 logic board here with this exact problem.

Everything else works, but the RISER-A connection. If I install just RISER-B, no problem. Both RISERS work when installed into RISER-B, so it's not the RISER itself.
 

Natuch

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Original poster
Mar 8, 2019
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It booted well first time with the two risers plugged, but only the Dimm 1 of the riser A was recognized
And another time with the riser B plugged in the A slot (with the 4 sticks)

So I can't tell if the problem is related
 

Natuch

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Mar 8, 2019
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I already did that, I don't have any led on on any riser.
And the power led doesn't indicate any ram issue

You don't think the problem could be the psu ?
The diag led 8 (psu) is off when I push the diag button, according to the guide :
Diagnostic LED 8 indicates that the main power is OK and within regulation.

And btw thanks for your help !
 

tsialex

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I already did that, I don't have any led on on any riser.
And the power led doesn't indicate any ram issue

You don't think the problem could be the psu ?
The diag led 8 (psu) is off when I push the diag button, according to the guide :
Diagnostic LED 8 indicates that the main power is OK and within regulation.

And btw thanks for your help !
If was anything PSU related, RISER-A would work alone.
 

bobica

macrumors member
Feb 22, 2019
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Hi guys
I received from a friend a old mac pro 2008 3.1 aparently broke. He bought a newer iMac and he gave up to that mac pro.
Machine was without graphic card, without hard drive and ram. Processors is dual quad core x5462 2.8ghz. Then i install original apple graphic card nvidia gt 120 in good contdition, 4 gb memory ram
and i try to run El Capitan from 120gb ssd already installed from other apple machine.
Computer start normal, boot with chime sound, i have boot screen with apple logo as well and when the line from logo start to go and grow to boot computer restart suddenly and fans start running very loud.
I force shutdown from start button and try again and againn but with the same issue. In logo bootscreen machine crash and restart and fans go run very fast and loud.
I try to boot from usb installer to see if the issue is from Osx, start boot good, installation start to go for 2,3 min and after computer again restart suddenly and fans go run.
I try everything other memory ram but anyway no issue with ram because when i start pc all red leds from memory bay stop after boot, mean memory ram is ok. I remove bluethoth and wifi, i check all cables and conections
and everything was ok, no issue.
But i notice one problem from begining is a red led open on the motherboard and i know from other mac pro machines 1.1 or 2.1 or even 5.1 when machine run well all leds must be off. But in this machine when i plug power
cable that red led start to be on and never go off. Position for thet red led is between wifi and bluetooth ( see pictures i uploud with red led position). I am confused why that led start to be on when power go in motherboard
I never seen any red led on in other mac pro machines, when i plug power cord, even if computer is off, before i press start button that red run when i plug power cord in machine. From my experience that led can be a issue from
two reasons. First can be a issue from one or both processors or second can be from power supply issue because look to be in connection with power if start to be on when is power in motherboard.
So i remove processors i check in what conditions they are, i check sockets, i clean i reapply thermo paste and i put back. But same issue, nothing chance, same simptoms, same red led on.
Then i decide to replace processors with other two from a old mac pro 1.1. I am not sure exactly number but is 2x 3.0 ghz dual core but same socket 771. Machine start, boot and go finnaly in os very well, all run well i check all specs
i run few applications and after 3,4 min computer stop, restart and fans go again with same issue. In all this time when computer run well that red led was on as weell but flashing exactly like a hard drive led when hard work.
Is clear now the issue is not processors but it is a difference betwen original processors ( x5462)) because with other processors ( 5160 i think) computer go in os run well few minutes and after crash again.
I run apple hardware test AHT, and in first short scan test he didn't find any issue with computer because scan was only around 1,2 min. When i run deep scan after 3,4 min scaning pc crash again.
Now in this moment when i write this, i have to check only power supply but unfortunately i don't have a spare one to do that. If the issue persist after i replace psu, probably i have to replace entire motherboard.
My curuiosity is to ask here if anybody have this issue with mac pro 3.1 and question for you guys is if that red led is normal to be on when power cord is pluged in computer even when is off.
Personal i dont't think so but i need confirmations from somebody else.

Thank you and any answer and advice are very welcome!
 

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