MP 1,1-5,1 Mac Pro 5,1 2010 no display after boot

[Ripper2010]

What you don't seem to understand is power is not the issue here, the card is not under any load and everything I have read on this forum suggests no need to power any card from SATA.
I just want 2 of the 4 ports to give a video signal, so far only the Displayport does.
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R9 280x /HD 7970 in Mac Pro 4.1 without extra PSU?

Been searching for something on what kind of experience people have from running a single 280x or 7970 in a Mac Pro 4.1 without an external PSU or using SATA power. Anyone who has actually fried/overheated/damaged their logic-board? Especially interested in those who have been running any of...

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[MIKX]

Your Sapphire still needs to be powered correctly ask " h9826790 "

Also, if it has not been correctly EFI flashed some ports may not work.

DVI - HDMI - Display Port all work on my Sapphire Dual-X 7970 as it has been correctly EFI flashed and is powered correctly.

My last word on this.

 

[Ripper2010]

No worries thanks for your help, I'll start looking in to EFI flashing on the other forum you suggested.

 

[tsialex]

What you don't seem to understand is power is not the issue here, the card is not under any load and everything I have read on this forum suggests no need to power any card from SATA.
I just want 2 of the 4 ports to give a video signal, so far only the Displayport does.
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R9 280x /HD 7970 in Mac Pro 4.1 without extra PSU?

Been searching for something on what kind of experience people have from running a single 280x or 7970 in a Mac Pro 4.1 without an external PSU or using SATA power. Anyone who has actually fried/overheated/damaged their logic-board? Especially interested in those who have been running any of...

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Your problem is not power related. It's that your card outputs are different from the layout of the personality used with Sapphire HD 7950 Mac Edition. When this happens, only the outputs of the card that have the exactly same configuration as the Sapphire HD 7950 Mac Edition will work. Most cards lose one output, usually the HDMI or the second DVI, when flashed.

You can't edit yourself the personality layout, it's very low level table inside the firmware. If I remember correctly only two users here that are not active anymore knew how to do that.

 

[Ripper2010]

This makes sense, the mac Edition has,
1x DVI
1x HDMI
2x mini-DisplayPort

My card has,
2x DVI
1x HDMI
1x DisplayPort

As I mentioned earlier I have had the lower DVI working, but now only the Displayport works.

Any thoughts on where I go from here?

 

[tsialex]

This makes sense, the mac Edition has,
1x DVI
1x HDMI
2x mini-DisplayPort

My card has,
2x DVI
1x HDMI
1x DisplayPort

As I mentioned earlier I have had the lower DVI working, but now only the Displayport works.

Any thoughts on where I go from here?

You can search for Fl0r!an posts and see if he ever edited a personality that would fit your card, it will be trial an error. Besides that, you can't do anything.

Btw, Apple did some changes with the drivers between High Sierra and Mojave that made some cards to not work with some outputs or with some of the worst cases, like with AMD Pitcairn GPUs, stop to work completely. If your DVI output still works with 10.13.6, it's the case.

 

[Ripper2010]

I found this, 3rd post down,

7xxx rom creating test.

7xxx rom creating test.

forum.netkas.org

10.14.6 produced a similar problem to mine, I'll install 10.14.5 and get back with the results.

 

[Ripper2010]

I have magaged to get both displays working but only mirrored, if I select use as seperate display I lose the DVI output.



Also the DVI output seems very glitchy see below, the circled areas jump all over the place.



And if I swap the DVI to the other monitor,



Is this anything to do with a bad flash? or shall I buy an RX 580?

 

[tsialex]

I have magaged to get both displays working but only mirrored, if I select use as seperate display I lose the DVI output.



Also the DVI output seems very glitchy see below, the circled areas jump all over the place.



And if I swap the DVI to the other monitor,



Is this anything to do with a bad flash? or shall I buy an RX 580?

Test with High Sierra, if you don't have the same problems you will know that it's a driver problem and you can't do anything about it.

 

[Ripper2010]

Yes I tried HS also, exactly same result (my last screen shot is HS you can just about make out the moutains)

 

[tsialex]

Yes I tried HS also, exactly same result (my last screen shot is HS you can just about make out the moutains)

So, it's not a driver problem and maybe it's something hardware related. One last test that you can do is to flash back the original firmware and test again to be sure if the Mac EFI is not causing your problems. If you don't have the original firmware, try to find it on TechPowerUp.

 

[Ripper2010]

The card has a switch, in position 1 it shows

Position 2 shows

I have found 3 bios files on techpowerup by searching part number 299-1E210-404SA from the bottom of card, tried with atiwinflash and amdvbflashwin and all 3 say "subsystem id's mismatch"

 

[Ripper2010]

I have saved both roms with the switch in position 1 and 2 and compared checksums with the rom in post 2 here http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,5619.0.html

Rom saved from position 1 has identical sum to the rom in post 2 = 6a3c7dadcd657ea48d02f1623ce9422ce30b4d4d

Rom from position 2 has identical sum to the rom created by running the script = bf6946175545d54a1e7cb846d518b75deb1ba076

So the card is correctly flashed I assume, Is there anymore I can do?

 

[Ripper2010]

OK me again
I have compared md5 checksums from both bios files and searched on Techpowerup, I have spent almost 4 full days on this and learning a lot but now thinking this is not right,

Switch in position 1 md5 = 85d6f30ccb39598a373808050ca3f8a0

Sapphire HD 7950 For Mac Os X VBIOS

3 GB GDDR5, 800 MHz GPU, 1250 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Switch in position 2 md5 = 8c6f14638310e87e7f94ae0e96453fcf

Sapphire HD 7970 VBIOS

3 GB GDDR5, 1000 MHz GPU, 1450 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

So it looks like it has just had the bios from the Mac edition flashed to bios 1, and bios 2 is original, I thought you could only flash number 2 as 1 was the backup?

 

[tsialex]

OK me again
I have compared md5 checksums from both bios files and searched on Techpowerup, I have spent almost 4 full days on this and learning a lot but now thinking this is not right,

Switch in position 1 md5 = 85d6f30ccb39598a373808050ca3f8a0

Sapphire HD 7950 For Mac Os X VBIOS

3 GB GDDR5, 800 MHz GPU, 1250 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Switch in position 2 md5 = 8c6f14638310e87e7f94ae0e96453fcf

Sapphire HD 7970 VBIOS

3 GB GDDR5, 1000 MHz GPU, 1450 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

So it looks like it has just had the bios from the Mac edition flashed to bios 1, and bios 2 is original, I thought you could only flash number 2 as 1 was the backup?

If the card has the same problems when you change the switch, and boot the non Mac EFI firmware, your GPU artefacts and problems are probably not caused by the flashing process.

 

[Ripper2010]

OK I'll try that later this evening, my point is according the bios neither are actually from my card originally, if you look up the GPU on techpowerup from the link it shows this card

Sapphire HD 7970 OC Boost Specs

AMD Tahiti, 1000 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 3072 MB GDDR5, 1450 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

which has 1x 6-pin + 1x 8-pin power connectors, mine has 2x 8 pin connectors???

 

[Macschrauber]

Learn how to make your own Firmware, not just flash someone's card's Firmware.

 

[Ripper2010]

i never flashed it, it came this way with a second hand Mac, by reading and asking questions I can learn how to do it, everything I have read suggests with the switch in position 1 the card can't be flashed as thats fixed, only position 2 can be flashed, but this card has a Mac bios flashed to position 1, is this correct? I am just trying to understand why this is the case with this card, is that a crime?

 

[MIKX]

I honestly tried to help you.

You don't take experience, advice about flashing well.

All the information you need is here http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,5619.0.html

All you need to do is read ALL 46 pages as we did.

 

[Ripper2010]

I have been reading that, lots of posts say only with the switch in position 2 can a card be flashed, I have dumped the bios from position 1 opened in a hex editor and it is a Mac bios, if you can't flash with the switch in position 1 how is that possible? Nothing in the Netkas thread answers my question, thats all I'm asking.

 

[MIKX]

You have not posted a photo of the WHOLE card - showing the LOGO on the fan(s).


POST A FULL SIZE PHOTO SHOWING THE WHOLE CARD.

The sticker on your card in the photo you posted ( Post #1 " says "7970"

Download the ROM here https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/155228/155228

If the card is indeed non-reference then sell it and get either a true reference DUAL-X 7970 or a Sapphire or Gigabyte or MSI R9 280X

AMD Reference 7970 & R9 280X cards have 1 X 6 pin and 1 x 8 pin.

Personally I would not buy your card . . . 2 x 8 pin points to non-reference.

YOUR Sapphire 7970 ports ( TWO x 8 pin power sockets

My Sapphire ( reference ) DUAL-X 7970 ports ONE x 6 pin & 1 X 8 pin power sockets

My DUAL-X 7970 has TWO mini Display ports + ONE HDMI + ONE DVI
All ports work !


It would appear that your Sapphire 7970 is non-reference.

 

[Ripper2010]

Thanks, there is no logo on the fans as the case has been spray painted white, but the case is exactly the same as in the techpowerup link you just posted, its is actually this card below (not home right now so can't take photo)

Sapphire HD 7970 Dual-X Specs

AMD Tahiti, 925 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 3072 MB GDDR5, 1375 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

2x 8 pin

I do have a Gigabyte card in the post with ports exactly the same as your Dual-X hopefully that will give the dual screens I want, I am grateful for everyones help and just trying to understand a little more about my 'nightmare' card, I think at this point I'll go with your comment "Personally I would not buy your card" just unfortunate it came with my second hand 5,1

 

[MIKX]

Just out of curiosity, when time allows . . please take a photo of the card ( side on ) so we can see the shape of the fans shroud to actually verify it's shape for model identification.

PS : If you had ordered a Sapphire Dual-X 3gb ( same as mine ) I could have PM'd you the working, EFI de-volted ROM.

 

[Ripper2010]

 

[MIKX]

still cannot see the FACE of the fan shroud.

We need to see . . . THE WHOLE fan shroud. like this . .