Mac Pro 6 Core - What to get on top of it? (SSDs, RAID cards, RAM, etc)

[nanofrog]

sorry for the confusion then
yes for some people you are correct in that thought and for people like Julian or myself as two examples of people who work this stuff we have to think about the storage more

I was aproaching this strictly for his working situation
in the other thread he wrote



once the file is open in PS the original drive wont matter ?
since he was not working on say 100-200 files a day like me ? or super large files like Julian his main storage are not a big deal but his scratch will be cause of all those layers and such

and a single drive should do him fine ? he could get a faster one ? but wont matter as much as memory and scratch for his setup I am thinking

hope that makes sense now why I said that

I presumed he was a pro (not blazing requirments, but still...), and the additional speed of the working data would be beneficial, and that scratch is desirable at the same throughput as a minumum (though faster isn't totally out of the question as file sizes increase, as there's a greater chance that RAM will be exceeded and force the need for page outs).

When I think of the cost of a second mechanical for example (stripe set for working data), it doesn't seem that bad (i.e. $100 seems to be most people's idea of a "magic number", and it can get you a decent HDD these days). Of course, there's the need for a proper backup, and a stripe set magnifies this need given the total lack of redundancy and increased risk of data loss. But it's needed anyway, so I don't see that as an increase in cost.

 

[Honumaui]

I presumed he was a pro (not blazing requirments, but still...), and the additional speed of the working data would be beneficial, and that scratch is desirable at the same throughput as a minumum (though faster isn't totally out of the question as file sizes increase, as there's a greater chance that RAM will be exceeded and force the need for page outs).

When I think of the cost of a second mechanical for example (stripe set for working data), it doesn't seem that bad (i.e. $100 seems to be most people's idea of a "magic number", and it can get you a decent HDD these days). Of course, there's the need for a proper backup, and a stripe set magnifies this need given the total lack of redundancy and increased risk of data loss. But it's needed anyway, so I don't see that as an increase in cost.

I am with ya on that

for anyone making a living that does raid 0 ? I say just do raid 10 and have some security ??

 

[nanofrog]

I am with ya on that

for anyone making a living that does raid 0 ? I say just do raid 10 and have some security ??

It's the route/methodology DigiLloyd takes, so I'd think so.

I think it's fine for the hobbyist, and pros on a super tight budget (enough unused time that they can still deal with the compromise of time requirement for the low cost). But for heavy use systems, another level that has redundancy would be of better use, as at that point, time (not dedicated to a paying job) is scarce.

 

[Honumaui]

It's the route/methodology DigiLloyd takes, so I'd think so.

I think it's fine for the hobbyist, and pros on a super tight budget (enough unused time that they can still deal with the compromise of time requirement for the low cost). But for heavy use systems, another level that has redundancy would be of better use, as at that point, time (not dedicated to a paying job) is scarce.

yeah for fun its OK
or even for working at least be very aware of the risks at the very least !!!!!
or use it in scratch or other things that dont matter

then again some peoples idea of a tool kit are vice grips duct tape and a hammer


yeah cant believe his recent workstation thing ??

YIKES

Lets do raid 0 two partitions one for BU one for data so when a drive goes down you loose your bu and data YEAHHHHHH

ID 10 T error big time !

 

[nanofrog]

yeah for fun its OK
or even for working at least be very aware of the risks at the very least !!!!!
or use it in scratch or other things that dont matter

then again some peoples idea of a tool kit are vice grips duct tape and a hammer


yeah cant believe his recent workstation thing ??

YIKES

Lets do raid 0 two partitions one for BU one for data so when a drive goes down you loose your bu and data YEAHHHHHH

ID 10 T error big time !

RAID 0 definitely has it's uses, but I agree 100% that the risk/benefit needs to be thoroughly understood before using it (especially when that system will be used to earn a living). As you mention, there are areas where it's fine, such as scratch space (temp data). In such instances, no backup is required for that location, and disks are cheap when there's a failure. There's even inexpensive SSD's (no need for massive capacity in such a case).

Unfortunately, I've the impression that a lot of independents are using DigiLloyd's information as gospel, and follow it without the knowledge of it's limitations (risk). They end up using it at their own peril, and may not have a proper backup system in place = total data loss (i.e. completely screwed in terms of working data).

Using partitioned stripe sets in a crossover configuration can work (Set A, partition 2 backs up Set B, partition 1, and Set B partition 2 has a copy of Set A, partition 1). At least the data is duplicated on completely separate sets, rather than sharing the same drives.

It's still not my favorite way to go about it though (I've gotten a bit spoiled with proper cards and their recovery options for redundant levels).