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Mac Pro Arrived! Pics Included

Chundles said:
Oh god it's like banging my head against a wall!!!
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The MacBook is a Mac, the MacBook Pro is a Mac, the Mac Pro is a Mac, the iMac is a Mac, the Mac mini is a Mac. You can't have a single product that has the same name as all of your products, it's confusing and just plain stupid.

Seriously no more of this "They're going to release a new model called the "Mac" talk" it's total bollocks. Apple can come up with something a little more original - Mac Pro mini, Cube², even the Mac maxi would make more sense if it didn't sound like a feminine hygiene product.
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I was hoping for a Mini iMacPro :rolleyes:
 
I went through 17 pages and did not find anybody asking a very important question.

Have you played WoW on your MP yet?


LOL, I'm sorry, I just had to ask that.

I'm gonna buy a 2.66 with a 1900xt next month and the first thing I'm gonna do with that sucker is play WoW. Work, schwork.
 
Why Not Buy Less Expensive Non-ECC FB-DIMMs Then?

gravygraphics said:
The ECC is an optional part of the spec, so theoretically you could buy a non-ECC FB-DIMM. The FB-DIMM spec goes so far as to support operation over a link that has a bad lane.
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Thank you for all that detailed report on FB-DIMMS.

So what's the downside to buying non-ECC FB-DIMMs? Are they much less expensive? Will the Mac Pro still perform very well with non-ECC FB-DIMMs? :confused: :eek:
 
Multimedia said:
I thought the SATA connectors were for alternate hard driives instead of optical. Why would we want or need SATA speed on poky optical drives? :eek: :confused: Who makes them and what do they write very fast to what and how expensive optical media? You mean Blu-ray and HD-DVD Opticals are SATA? I thought they were Firewire. At least the Logitech one for sale in Japan is FW400.

Here's that Mac Pro schematic again for those of you who missed it earlier:

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Blu-ray and HD-DVD drives will very likely be IDE or SATA, the external versions will have a conversion chip inside. The entire reason for SATA is increased speed, a thiner cable that can run further and help improve air flow. Just because a optical drive doesnt go as fast as a raptop the IDE cable still has a length constraint and will impair good air flow. Everything will eventually go SATA, but current chipsets dont support SATA optical drives with similair features as their IDE counterparts, making for expensive SATA optical drives.
 
weldon said:
... I would expect the displays to be updated with IR ports and remotes in time for Leopard to ship with Front Row built-in. Probably some USB IR dongle with remote will get sold as an add-on as well.
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If the new display were to have built in functionality like an iSight or IR port, wouldn't it need a non standard video cable attached to a non standard video out port on the Mac Pro? Or does the video connection standard have pins for miscellaneous data? Because if those capabilities need anything non standard then all you need to do is look at the video out port on the Mac Pro and see if it's all standard or not to find out if anything unusual is going to come on the new displays.
 
I think you could use the standard USB 2.0 for that.
The ACD now also have a USB-hub built in, and thus requires you to hook a USB cable to the computer, so it won't look like they had to fix an extra cable.
 
jrk07 said:
Hmm, I would understand the lack for front row more if the MacBook Pro did not have it, but since it does and this doesn't I'm a tad confused. Most people who need this machine probably wouldn't see the lack of Front Row as a deal breaker though, so it's sort of a non-issue.
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Well they did say it will be there in Leopard, and if you are desperate there are directions on the interweb to put Front Row on a Mac that didn't have it manually -- I have Front Row running on my G4 mini, for example.
 
ReanimationLP said:
Hyperthreading is overrated, but its still a nice feature. I like my HT Pentium 4 chip
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Yes, I suppose so. Although, I found my 3.06GHz P4 w/HT (OC'ed to 3.4GHz) to be rather on the pokey side. :eek:
 
SATA Drives.

Just ordered my Mac Pro yesterday. Can I buy just about any 2nd gen SATA drive and throw into the Mac Pro? Made the transition last year from pc's to mac and I am not real familiar with mac hardware.
 
janstett said:
It seems that most of these new SATA controllers have RAID built in...
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That RAID is software RAID.

"Using Mac OS X, you can stripe two, three, or all four of those drives in a RAID 0 array"

Too bad they didn't give us a hardware RAID option! I would love to setup a RAID 5 with the three remaining HD bays...
 
devmage - i didn't see your post there...
yeah i've seen that they're trying to push the software RAID in OS X more now.

janstett - what do you mean about SATA drives having built-in RAID?! :eek: I've never heard about this before... how would that work anyway?

Eodchop, congrats on your Mac Pro purchase! :D
I'm pretty sure you can use any SATA drives, just make sure that if you get any that have "NLI" or "IlN" (it's late - i can't remember the acronym) that it's not enabled or else it won't work in your Mac, that's the last I heard anyway.
 
hondaboy945 said:
It says on various sites that there is room for 2 Quadro 4500 cards so there is room for 2 double-wide cards
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I hade a friend of mine who's at WWDC ask an Apple engineer about the "Note: The Mac Pro does not simultaneously support an ATI graphics card and an Nvidia graphics card." quote from http://developer.apple.com/document...le_ref/doc/uid/TP40003994-DontLinkElementID_1.

Apparently, that quote only means that you can't run an ATI Radeon X1900 XT and Nvidia Quadro 4500 FX simultaneously. However, they tried putting a Geforce 7300 GT in with the Radeon card, and that worked fine! So the quote is quite misleading, and my setup should work beautifully.

The Apple engineer also mentioned that you no longer need special mac firmware on the graphics cards, so you can use any generic PCI Express card! This has not been verified though, but should give you some hope at least :)
 
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I'm pretty sure you can use any SATA drives, just make sure that if you get any that have "NLI" or "IlN" (it's late - i can't remember the acronym) that it's not enabled or else it won't work in your Mac, that's the last I heard anyway.




Does anyone have a recommendation as to which HD would work well?
 
Eodchop said:
I'm pretty sure you can use any SATA drives, just make sure that if you get any that have "NLI" or "IlN" (it's late - i can't remember the acronym) that it's not enabled or else it won't work in your Mac, that's the last I heard anyway.





Does anyone have a recommendation as to which HD would work well?
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I'd say you mean NCQ.
 
Queston for people who have got their Mac Pro:

The 7300 does not require a PCI Express power cable

But the high end video cards do

Did Apple still include the PCI express power cable so you can upgrade the video card later??
 
aurz said:
Queston for people who have got their Mac Pro:

The 7300 does not require a PCI Express power cable

But the high end video cards do

Did Apple still include the PCI express power cable so you can upgrade the video card later??
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The cable should likely be with the card kit if you order from Apple, but Apple does include the booster connection 2 of them ...

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/MacPro_CTOGraphicsCard_DIY.pdf
 
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My MacPro just shipped this morning from SHENZHEN China, one day before the estimated ship date. So I figured this is a good time to join this forum.

Like most of you who have received or ordered their MacPro, I am torn between the excitement of getting a new toy and being worried about getting such a new product. But I could not wait and ordered the standard config.

For work, I have to be able to run Windows in this machine. I read through most of this thread, but could not find a definitive answer if anyone has actually managed to get XP running on this with either parallels or bootcamp and with all the essential hardware (NIC, Graphics, USB etc.)?

I don't want to wait for the wireless card. Does anyone here have any experience with the Netgear Ethernet extender that works through AC outlets?

I went to the local Apple store yesterday. The usually well informed Genius had no idea about any of my questions. (Airport, bootcamp,...) I don't think they have been trained on the new system yet.
 
The PCI Express cable (or Booster cable as Apple call it) looks proprietary :|

This isn't good for people who want to put in standard PC video cards in.

Hopefully Apple sell the cable seperate.
 
aurz said:
The PCI Express cable (or Booster cable as Apple call it) looks proprietary :|

This isn't good for people who want to put in standard PC video cards in.

Hopefully Apple sell the cable seperate.
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The socket on the card looks like a normal PCI-E power socket. The socket in the Mac Pro is probably the same connection, but we'll see in time.
 
Multimedia said:
Thank you for all that detailed report on FB-DIMMS.

So what's the downside to buying non-ECC FB-DIMMs? Are they much less expensive? Will the Mac Pro still perform very well with non-ECC FB-DIMMs? :confused: :eek:
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I do not believe non-ECC FB-DIMMS exist.

Speaking of memory I was chating with Cruicial Customer support and I got this response back from them regarding if they met apples heat disipation requirements on their Mac Pro Memory.

"We are sorry to inform you that we are experiencing an inconsistency with the current heat spreaders on our Mac 1GB FBDIMM modules after extended system use. While we rectify this, we have canceled all shipments of these modules until we can provide a more advanced heat spreader that resolves the problem. "
 
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Lincoln said:
I ordered one with the ATI1900XTX Graphics card another 1GB of extra memory (no third party memory available yet), wireless and a 500GB hard disk.

Seeing pictures of one makes the wait seem longer, but I wanted the better graphics card.

Congratulations on getting yours:D
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What a nonsense: you can just buy your Ram from Kingston!
I'ts like 25% cheaper.
 
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