That would be nice but I doubt we'll see changes to the hardware. It would be interesting to know if iphone sales, at least in the US, are slowing down because of the expectations for the next gen phone. If significant, perhaps we'll see the next gen sooner than expected... (Maybe a 1.5 with 3g). Wishful thinking.
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That would be nice but I doubt we'll see changes to the hardware. It would be interesting to know if iphone sales, at least in the US, are slowing down because of the expectations for the next gen phone. If significant, perhaps we'll see the next gen sooner than expected... (Maybe a 1.5 with 3g). Wishful thinking.
These HAVE penryn. What do you think they are running?
And it looks like these particular CPUs have to use this ram. DDR3 isn't compatible, it's a consequence of using xeon chips as opposed to core.
Where is penryn? This is a lame update if it can even be called that... its a glorified iMac at this point...
I love my macpro, but this is hardly worth my time. Why does apple have to treat the MacPro uses like garbage? *answer* everyone is in love with the MBP
Well my 2 cents, I wish I could justify that kind of expense, the technology is not that exciting in the macpro, i think we could all go on about things that are clearly missing...
Bluray Option? NONE AT ALL? come on...
Penryn? where? *crickets*
Where is DDRIII and if not DDRIII where is the higher speed DDRII 800 mhz is slow by even dell's standards these days for this kind of machine...?
Where is 4+TB of storage? believe it or not this is a small limit to have on this caliber of machine.
Shape up please, I don't want to fall to the mercy of Dell's and other junk for workstation grade computers....
It's in the right direction I will admit that, but seriously some of you have to agree this is a lame duck of an update... especially with no new screens...
Hahaha... Oh my goodness.
This is Penryn, silly.
This is also good enough.
I'll take a guess and say that you can upgrade later.
Why? because according to the specs the single quad used is a 5400 series Xeon which means its socket 771. If you were going with a pure single CPU machine, you would be using a socket 775 Xeon such as a Xeon 3350 or 3360 quad core.
Where is penryn? This is a lame update if it can even be called that... its a glorified iMac at this point...
I love my macpro, but this is hardly worth my time. Why does apple have to treat the MacPro uses like garbage? *answer* everyone is in love with the MBP
Well my 2 cents, I wish I could justify that kind of expense, the technology is not that exciting in the macpro, i think we could all go on about things that are clearly missing...
Bluray Option? NONE AT ALL? come on...
Penryn? where? *crickets*
Where is DDRIII and if not DDRIII where is the higher speed DDRII 800 mhz is slow by even dell's standards these days for this kind of machine...?
Where is 4+TB of storage? believe it or not this is a small limit to have on this caliber of machine.
It's in the right direction I will admit that, but seriously some of you have to agree this is a lame duck of an update... especially with no new screens...
I'm a newbie here at Macrumors, but you my friend need to do your homework.
45-nm Quad-Core Xeon processors = Penryn
And you whine about the RAM used, seriously...... Do some research....
SLI on new Mac Pro?
So from the specs (emphasis mine):
So I'm wondering if this platform will be able to run SLI graphics under Windows. A pair of 8800GT boards would be a respectable setup for Windows-based gaming.
So from the specs (emphasis mine):
PCI Express expansion
Three open full-length PCI Express expansion slots
One PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot
Two PCI Express x4 slots
Three open full-length PCI Express expansion slots
One PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot
Two PCI Express x4 slots
So I'm wondering if this platform will be able to run SLI graphics under Windows. A pair of 8800GT boards would be a respectable setup for Windows-based gaming.
This is OT and everything, but wouldn't Apple have to put any 3G iPhone through the same FCC approval process(*) as the original model? If so wouldn't it make sense to mention it at Macworld since it'll otherwise be discussed from the FCC filings? Though I'm not sure how that plays with the Osborne Effect for existing sales.
(* I don't know, but I'm surmising it's a new radio to go with the move to 3G and guessing a change would need a separate approval.)
Where is penryn? This is a lame update if it can even be called that... its a glorified iMac at this point...
I love my macpro, but this is hardly worth my time. Why does apple have to treat the MacPro uses like garbage? *answer* everyone is in love with the MBP
Well my 2 cents, I wish I could justify that kind of expense, the technology is not that exciting in the macpro, i think we could all go on about things that are clearly missing...
Bluray Option? NONE AT ALL? come on...
Penryn? where? *crickets*
Where is DDRIII and if not DDRIII where is the higher speed DDRII 800 mhz is slow by even dell's standards these days for this kind of machine...?
Where is 4+TB of storage? believe it or not this is a small limit to have on this caliber of machine.
It's in the right direction I will admit that, but seriously some of you have to agree this is a lame duck of an update... especially with no new screens...
I dont know what you smoking but have to be good stuff
get a grip and think before you post
Under Windows, SLI doesn't work on an Intel chipset, only Nvidia chipsets. Intel skulltrail gets around this by using nvidia Nforce 100 bridge chips alongside the Intel chipset in order to support SLI
I would have to agree with this. I know a lot of people here are looking for a "mid range" computer other than the iMac, and I would agree with them, but the absolute minimum price on the Mac Pro (with one 2.8 GHz processor) gives you the same price as the high end iMac. So to me it doesn't look like there's room between those two. On the other hand I can understand still wanting something cheaper than $2,299 but also upgradeable.
Where to start...
Ok, Cinema Displays are a different product. Leave them outta this for the minute - they'll have their moment.
This IS a Penryn Mac Pro, and introduced at a $200 lower pricepoint than its predecessor while including 2GB RAM as standard, Bluetooth, and whatever else.
This is a beefy update dude. Many hundreds if not thousands of people have been rewarded for their patience over the last few months!
Given the price of the Quad 2.8, I don't believe there's room for a fourth Mac desktop at any further drop in price that wouldn't just confuse things.
Using that logic.Which I agree with.The possibility exists that one can add another ( gad.I don't want to say CPU ) "chip" to the logic board.
Where is penryn? This is a lame update if it can even be called that... its a glorified iMac at this point...
I love my macpro, but this is hardly worth my time. Why does apple have to treat the MacPro uses like garbage? *answer* everyone is in love with the MBP
Well my 2 cents, I wish I could justify that kind of expense, the technology is not that exciting in the macpro, i think we could all go on about things that are clearly missing...
Bluray Option? NONE AT ALL? come on...
Penryn? where? *crickets*
Where is DDRIII and if not DDRIII where is the higher speed DDRII 800 mhz is slow by even dell's standards these days for this kind of machine...?
Where is 4+TB of storage? believe it or not this is a small limit to have on this caliber of machine.
It's in the right direction I will admit that, but seriously some of you have to agree this is a lame duck of an update... especially with no new screens...
What's hilarious is that you mention workstation grade computers, but then talk DDR3. Intel's workstation platform (on which Mac Pro and Dell workstations are based) uses ECC FB-DIMM DDR2. Apple can't do anything about what RAM is used. If you went to Dell or HP and got something from the workstation range you would be using the same RAM.
No, it means that 8 displays of any size can be run at once. You can't drive two 23" displays off a single dual-link connector.
SLI or Crossfire
With the twin PCI-E 2.0 slots is is possible to SLi Or Crossfire in one of the new MacPros? That would rock. It would finally power gaming on the mac Platfrom. Twin 2600's for budget or twin 8800's for major power with a single core would meet that mid-range tower everyone is screaming for. I don't see why technically other than drivers for Leopard it wouldn't be possible. Any thoughts?
With the twin PCI-E 2.0 slots is is possible to SLi Or Crossfire in one of the new MacPros? That would rock. It would finally power gaming on the mac Platfrom. Twin 2600's for budget or twin 8800's for major power with a single core would meet that mid-range tower everyone is screaming for. I don't see why technically other than drivers for Leopard it wouldn't be possible. Any thoughts?
from the apple australia web store, more info section for the available graphics card options:
Appears unfinished... is this a spoiler for a card yet to be officially added to the store? Is this card more powerful than the GT?
Scottie
Appears unfinished... is this a spoiler for a card yet to be officially added to the store? Is this card more powerful than the GT?
Scottie
Don't forget the new support for 32 GB of RAM. Yum
I think the previous Mac Pros supported up to 32gb RAM as well. At least according to the Crucial site.
as well for this I am interested - plus any more speculation (reassurance) on the 'buy single quad and upgrade to dual quad [octo] later' paradigm?
Just a note for all you out there, this means that the new 2.8 GHz "quad-core" model has a single four core processor sharing a single 1600 MHz bus, whereas the previous-generation "quad-core" models had two dual-core processors on two separate 1333 MHz busses. This means that for bus-intensive, multi-threaded operations, the old models will perform better. Yes, even the old 2.66 GHz model will likely be able to outrun the new 2.8 GHz model.
However, applications that take advantage of the new SSE-4 instructions should be able to make up for the difference, and you now have all four cores in a single socket, leaving a second socket available for upgrades. (Hopefully they actually have the second socket and heatsink in there; having just typed that, I realized that it is entirely possible that they will leave out the second socket altogether, the way they did with the dual-core G5s.)
Again, please note that on the lowest-end CTO model, you now have four cores sharing that single 1600 MHz bus, whereas on the previous models, you had two dual-core chips on two separate 1333 MHz busses.
Sorry, the pedant in me has to complain. 'Option' implies a choice. (Indeed, the OS X Dictionary defines it as "a thing that is or may be chosen".) As it is no longer a 'choice', the proper wording would be "- Bluetooth is now standard"
I believe there is some kind of vibe going across the world -- you're like the seventy forth person to say this exact same thing
I'm starting to believe it's true 
That is correct. You used to have to do a Configure now to add Bluetooth to your MP. Now it is built in automatically. I am puzzled why they did not include the Airport as well. In this day and age it should be standard. It is a $20 config, so why the hell make you buy that seperate. Pretty dumb in my opinion.