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They could, but then they lose out on the advantages that make AS feel so fast - the memory being on the chip and not having to travel through a bus.
That being said, a lot of those performance improvements come from the unified memory structure, but I would gladly give the slight performance increase to upgrade my memory when I need to.
They could just make the bus wide enough to match M2 Max. I know it's not an amazing comparison, but quad-channel memory on IBM's POWER9 from 2017 is 120GB/s, with standard old registered ECC DDR4 DIMMs running at only 2133MT/s. Higher than M2 small, which uses IIRC DDR5-5600MT/s. Power10 from 2020, albiet with a non-standard OMI serial memory bus, got 818GB/s with modular memory (M2 Max is ~400GB/s). Ampere Altra uses standard ECC DDR4, albiet running at 3200MT/s, to get a 230GB/s memory bus. Or so, that's a number I calculated myself and not an official one (their officially-stated memory bandwidth is "high"). Most amd64 processors only have two memory channels, but that's not an inherent quality. Intel's relatively-contemporary E5-2690 had quad-channel; sure, it only had 80GB/s memory bandwidth but as IBM Power suggests that's not a hard and fast rule -- especially when getting away from amd64.

That would introduce a bit of latency, but realistically not enough to matter for... anyone; AS's speed is really more about sheer bandwidth and energy efficiency, letting them pack in essentially a desktop CPU into a laptop's TDP. The main area AS does flagrantly faster than amd64 is in sustained, computationally heavy workloads where after the initial RAM latency (which can honestly be measured in nanoseconds[1]), it really has no effect. Human time perception is measured in milliseconds[2], meaning the main source of latency is in the OS itself[3], and not the hardware underneath it. People (if a niche group -- OS 9 Lives still counts 7,500 registered accounts) use Mac OS 9 for audio production for a reason; anecdotally, it feels to me instantaneous compared to Mac OS X, and that's with a ~50-70 ms latency. And keep in mind, the Mac Pro is not a conusmer product -- the consumer space has the majority of the latency-sensitive applications; I doubt Pixar is going to care if their renders start 75 ns later than the enter key is hit. And if you don't need integrated graphics, which I doubt any firm, studio, or otherwise group working with 3D graphics would, the unified memory structure instantly loses the main thing it speeds up.

I can't even really come up with a good use case for instantaneous memory access, I guess either if you're a stockbroker or if you're NASA and the US government gave you a few cheese cubes and some 1959 pennies, and their resale value wasn't enough to get a minicomputer or proper HPC cluster for your interstellar communications room, so you had to make do with some Mac Pros. While sure, 75 ns might be a while in CPU cycle time, it's none at all for the end user. I think the best use case for memory on-die in a Mac Pro would be like has been suggested -- using that memory as an extended cache. 16GB of cache would be an insane amount and for some workflows would still be enough to destroy any amd64 big-iron offering. But ultimately the real reason for the non upgradeability is so that they make more money from the people willing to pay for more RAM and storage, either because they're forced into it via some software they can't replace or because they willingly go along with it.

[1] DRAM modules themselves, at least consumer ones, typically have a latency around 10 ns give or take 10; total CPU-to-DRAM time is around 75 ns on typical Ryzen home systems.
[2] This is, as anything related to biology or humans is, somewhat complicated. There's various factors that go into this, and even in the same person a bunch of variables -- even smell can affect time perception, and audio and visual time perception can differ. The old standard number was ~100 ms, but that was regarding reaction time, a more likely number admittedly according to anecdote, would be in the range of 10 ms. This would make sense as 60 Hz is 16.667 ms, and anecdotally, I notice gains in smoothness in a display up to about 85 Hz, 11.8 ms, after which the gains start to die off. That's not to say that that difference between 85 Hz and 120 Hz is imperceptible, I would still prefer the latter and notice some difference, but the reasoning starts changing to simply being more up to date visually, so more recent information is received every cycle as it's highly improbable that your display and your brain are synchronized and neither will drift.
[3] https://danluu.com/input-lag/

As far as Apple is concerned - you don't exist as an Apple customer, if you are still trying to keep an 11 year old computer running.

At some point, you have to let go of old hardware - you truly don't realize how far behind you are.
If it still works, and does what you want as well as you want it to, replacing it is just a waste of resources and energy. I personally use various PowerPC Macs for daily purposes, though my new daily driver is a temporary Surface Laptop 3 15" with Fedora and my current project PC is a Sharp PC-MM2 running OpenBSD. I'd say computers from 2003 are just barely worth replacing (and either selling or keeping in some other role) right now, and that timescale is likely to grow as amd64 and silicon both continue to plateau, and more and more work is done on cell phones that are about as powerful as a decade-old laptop. I don't think we'll see any real change year over year like generic-you did through the 1990s until gallium nitride comes out, and even then the full potential won't come until we get off the '70s tower of duct tape onto OpenPOWER, ARM, and (somewhat begrudgingly on my end) RISC-V.​

Exactly. While their OS ecosystem is convenient and mostly efficient (software quality control somewhat deteriorating as of late), it does lock you in as there is no hardware competition.
Unfortunately, the same can be said about the hardware. AS is really, really fast for mobile hardware, and uses really little power. To the point that it's an amazing platform for Linux and OpenBSD -- even without full hardware support, both get over 10 hours, often over 15, of battery life, while still being faster than macOS when both are measured, even before there was GPU support. After the GPU driver was written, off-the-cuff battery tests showed 8 hours of 1080p 3D gameplay. But at the same time, their hardware is so locked down it presents a dilemma of either rewarding them for their wasteful, greedy tactic or buying some Wintel garbage that's IME-laden and can barely last a half-hour charge.​
 
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I'm a Mac Pro (2019) user, not an enthusiast and I've been wondering about Apple Silicon for a while.

I work in 2D and 3D animation. I was about to transition over to PC in 2019, I even had a Nvidia card in an eGPU attached to my MacBook Pro so I could learn some new 3D software using Boot Camp, but the Mac Pro kept me on the Mac. Just.

It's a lot of money, but I've been using Mac OS for 20 years. I would really rather keep going with it if I can, but Apple is going to have to have to deliver a user upgradeable Mac Pro or there really is no point. I want to be able to throw new GPU's in there for years to come, because that's really something that changes a lot in my industry.

I think they'd have to do something fundamentally different to what they've done so far with Apple Silicon to enable a Mac Pro with user upgradeable parts. Currently the SoC integrates the CPU, GPU and RAM, which is great for other devices, but not the Mac Pro.
To quote the article "...Gurman appears to be reaching this conclusion based on logical reasoning rather than specific insider information." That's not logical reasoning, it's illogical click-bait reasoning.

Apple are greedy, but they aren't completely stupid.

Computing memory, including Apple Silicon, already has multiple layers of memory: registers, multiple levels of cache RAM, main RAM, and then the SSD acting as memory when RAM runs out. There is absolutely no reason why Apple can't add plug-in, upgradeable, off-SOC RAM, and another layer after the on-SOC RAM. It will be a laughable flop to release a new Mac Pro without it, and they know it. I'm using my own "logical reasoning rather than specific insider information" to predict user-upgradeable, off-SOC, RAM up to either 3TB or 6TB. The current Mac Pro supports up to 12 DIMMS of DDR4, with max of 125 GB / DIMM. The new Mac Pro will support DDR5, which AFAIK, comes in up to 512 GB DIMMS, so 12 slots will support up to 6 TB. However, if Apple chooses to go with a smaller case, they might have only 6 slots, supporting up to 3 TB.

The Mac Studio already has it's SSD's in plug-in slots, so obviously the Mac Pro can too. Note that only proprietary Apple SSDs work in the slots. Thus the Mac Pro will highly likely have upgradable SSD's, but only purchased from Apple, so there is no avoiding the 400% Apple Tax on SSD upgrades.

Thus, I suspect, Apple may have worked out a way to ensure RAM upgrades can only be purchased from Apple, thus leaving them perfectly, greedily, Apple Taxingly, happy with enabling RAM upgrades in the AS Mac Pro.

I have no idea if and how they would deal with upgradable GPUs or PCI slots, but presumably it is technically possible.
 
I see an esy way to make the Mac Pro upgradable. Place the SOC with its CPU, GPU, RAM and so on on a plug-in card. Call it a "compute module" then Apple sells different kinds of compute modules like "M3 Max" and "m2 Pro" and some come with 16 GB and others come with 64 GB.

The way you upgrade is to replace the entire compute module with one that has more RAM or GPU cores or a faster CPU. This way you buy the Pro with one M3 CPU, 20 GPU cores and 64 GB RAM and maybe the Pro has slots for up to four compute modules. You upgrade by buying another module of the same type of better or by replacing the old module with newer ones.

I can also imagine they sell "I/O Modules" that have thunderbolt ports or maybe Storage Modules" that have SSD chips. You can upgrade to either faster ports and faster SSD or just more of the same.

One thing it will not be is a PC that runs MacOS like the current Mac Pro.
 
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I see an esy way to make the Mac Pro upgradable. Place the SOC with its CPU, GPU, RAM and so on on a plug-in card. Call it a "compute module" then Apple sells different kinds of compute modules like "M3 Max" and "m2 Pro" and some come with 16 GB and others come with 64 GB.

The way you upgrade is to replace the entire compute module with one that has more RAM or GPU cores or a faster CPU. This way you buy the Pro with one M3 CPU, 20 GPU cores and 64 GB RAM and maybe the Pro has slots for up to four compute modules. You upgrade by buying another module of the same type of better or by replacing the old module with newer ones.

I can also imagine they sell "I/O Modules" that have thunderbolt ports or maybe Storage Modules" that have SSD chips. You can upgrade to either faster ports and faster SSD or just more of the same.

One thing it will not be is a PC that runs MacOS like the current Mac Pro.
Yes, that's basically the same thing I proposed in an earlier comment. What would make the Mac Pro very distinct from any other Mac is if it was essentially a multi-node compute cluster in a box where you could add or remove nodes and they work together like how a supercomputer is designed.
 
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To quote the article "...Gurman appears to be reaching this conclusion based on logical reasoning rather than specific insider information." That's not logical reasoning, it's illogical click-bait reasoning.
It may be wrong, but it is certainly not illogical.
Apple are greedy, but they aren't completely stupid.
So doing something different than what other players have done (like using their own architecture) would have to be stupid. Got it.
Computing memory, including Apple Silicon, already has multiple layers of memory: registers, multiple levels of cache RAM, main RAM, and then the SSD acting as memory when RAM runs out. There is absolutely no reason why Apple can't add plug-in, upgradeable, off-SOC RAM, and another layer after the on-SOC RAM.

NUMA systems are very hard to use and would give up one of the big advantages of Apple’s Unified Memory Architecture. Given how few of these systems get sold, developing a completely different system architecture seems like an odd choice that would prevent developers from performance tuning for the bulk of Apple systems. It could happen, but does not feel like the most likely choice.
It will be a laughable flop to release a new Mac Pro without it, and they know it.
You know this based on your extensive market research of Apple Mac Pro customers? How many of the current generation Mac Pros do you own?
I'm using my own "logical reasoning rather than specific insider information" to predict user-upgradeable, off-SOC, RAM up to either 3TB or 6TB. The current Mac Pro supports up to 12 DIMMS of DDR4, with max of 125 GB / DIMM. The new Mac Pro will support DDR5, which AFAIK, comes in up to 512 GB DIMMS, so 12 slots will support up to 6 TB. However, if Apple chooses to go with a smaller case, they might have only 6 slots, supporting up to 3 TB.
Whom does this architecture benefit? I have worked in many technical organizations and I cannot think of one where people routinely updated components in their workstations. The Uniform Memory Architecture makes much less RAM necessary and substantially increases the performance as data does not need to be copied into and out of external memory.
The Mac Studio already has it's SSD's in plug-in slots, so obviously the Mac Pro can too. Note that only proprietary Apple SSDs work in the slots. Thus the Mac Pro will highly likely have upgradable SSD's, but only purchased from Apple, so there is no avoiding the 400% Apple Tax on SSD upgrades.
The current machine has PCIe slots and I would expect the new one to have them as well. Pretty easy to add NVMe storage to a card in a slot.
Thus, I suspect, Apple may have worked out a way to ensure RAM upgrades can only be purchased from Apple, thus leaving them perfectly, greedily, Apple Taxingly, happy with enabling RAM upgrades in the AS Mac Pro.
Again, who do you think this architecture targets? The people who tend to buy RAM not when they order it from Apple tend to buy cheap (and often inferior) third party RAM. If they do not support that, I am not clear who they would be targeting.

I have no idea if and how they would deal with upgradable GPUs or PCI slots, but presumably it is technically possible.
I think it is pretty unlikely that they will create a GPU card, and even less likely they will support someone else’s architecture.
 
Yes, that's basically the same thing I proposed in an earlier comment. What would make the Mac Pro very distinct from any other Mac is if it was essentially a multi-node compute cluster in a box where you could add or remove nodes and they work together like how a supercomputer is designed.

I'm sure that Apple could do this, but I just doubt that they will.

As you say, this is how super dense blade servers are built.

I just see problems:

1) Programmers can't see multi-node architectures as a single CPU / memory space... which basically means you need to write software specifically for the architecture... which almost nobody is going to do.

2) Multi-nodes would require a ton of R&D investment... for a super niche product that almost nobody would buy, so it would be a waste of Apple's R&D resources.

3) A replaceable single node is more plausible, but then the only problems would be: you will be bottlenecking the PCIe bandwidth, and faster generations of PCIe will be negatively impacted by yet another connection?
 
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Yes, that's basically the same thing I proposed in an earlier comment. What would make the Mac Pro very distinct from any other Mac is if it was essentially a multi-node compute cluster in a box where you could add or remove nodes and they work together like how a supercomputer is designed.
Yes, this is how Apple COULD do this. But will they?

My bet is that Apple is not really interested in Macs what will sell in low quantities, and they will put an M3-based Mac Studio in a bigger box and call it a "Mac Pro". People will complain. Some will leave the Apple ecosystem, but not enough to matter.

I would really like to see a super computer in a box, but I'd not bet on it.
 
I see an esy way to make the Mac Pro upgradable. Place the SOC with its CPU, GPU, RAM and so on on a plug-in card. Call it a "compute module" then Apple sells different kinds of compute modules like "M3 Max" and "m2 Pro" and some come with 16 GB and others come with 64 GB.

The way you upgrade is to replace the entire compute module with one that has more RAM or GPU cores or a faster CPU. This way you buy the Pro with one M3 CPU, 20 GPU cores and 64 GB RAM and maybe the Pro has slots for up to four compute modules. You upgrade by buying another module of the same type of better or by replacing the old module with newer ones.

I can also imagine they sell "I/O Modules" that have thunderbolt ports or maybe Storage Modules" that have SSD chips. You can upgrade to either faster ports and faster SSD or just more of the same.

One thing it will not be is a PC that runs MacOS like the current Mac Pro.
The plug-in card may cost more than a Mac Studio/Mini and slower due to the need to use the slot bus to use ports. The biggest drawback, as pointed out in earlier posts, is that this completely negates the UMA model Apple has so painstakingly designed and advocate for AS.

Highly unlikely to happen.

It's easier for Apple to add in DDR5 DIMM slots.
 
Not saying Applw will use this chip. They wont. But it does show what other companies are doing with ARM CPUs on server class computers

Ampere makes an ARM based processor that runs circles around any of Apple's chips. It is expensive and uses a lot of power but is ideal for a Mac Pro. These have been selling for at least a year. Here is their desciption

Ampere® Altra® Multi Core Server Processors are a complete System On Chip ... 128 Armv8.2 cores with up to 3.0 GHz frequency. It supports 128 lanes of high speed PCIe Gen4 and 8×72 ECC protected DDR4 3200 memory.

THe processors are used in computers that are stacked up in data centers. You can buy them today and not Linux o it, but not MacOS.
 
Not saying Applw will use this chip. They wont. But it does show what other companies are doing with ARM CPUs on server class computers

Ampere makes an ARM based processor that runs circles around any of Apple's chips. It is expensive and uses a lot of power but is ideal for a Mac Pro. These have been selling for at least a year. Here is their desciption



THe processors are used in computers that are stacked up in data centers. You can buy them today and not Linux o it, but not MacOS.
At some point Apple should outsource some silicon, Ampere Altra could run MacOS but not Rosetta neither or the private extension Apple introduced into its arm, not this particular Altra but maybe Future variants may include full macOS support (on apple directions).
 
I see an esy way to make the Mac Pro upgradable. Place the SOC with its CPU, GPU, RAM and so on on a plug-in card. Call it a "compute module" then Apple sells different kinds of compute modules like "M3 Max" and "m2 Pro" and some come with 16 GB and others come with 64 GB.

The way you upgrade is to replace the entire compute module with one that has more RAM or GPU cores or a faster CPU. This way you buy the Pro with one M3 CPU, 20 GPU cores and 64 GB RAM and maybe the Pro has slots for up to four compute modules. You upgrade by buying another module of the same type of better or by replacing the old module with newer ones.

I can also imagine they sell "I/O Modules" that have thunderbolt ports or maybe Storage Modules" that have SSD chips. You can upgrade to either faster ports and faster SSD or just more of the same.

One thing it will not be is a PC that runs MacOS like the current Mac Pro.
Several issues with that method:

1. It will lose many advantages with Apple Silicon or SoC since they are NOT directly connected. The port bandwidth is still in question and it's very obvious that the transfer speed will be slower than just one SoC.

2. Still not possible to replace Mac Pro who need more than 1.5TB of RAM. SoC or unified memory is just impossible since the chip itself will be humongous due to a lot of memory chips around it. You will need more than 60 memory chips. At least 20 chips per each M2 Extreme or something else which is already stupidly large.

3. Still not able to upgrade specific parts. Not all people want that upgradability and not compatible with previous parts.
 
...not possible to replace Mac Pro who need more than 1.5TB of RAM. SoC or unified memory is just impossible since the chip itself will be humongous due to a lot of memory chips around it. You will need more than 60 memory chips. At least 20 chips per each M2 Extreme or something else which is already stupidly large.

If you need more than 1.5TB of RAM, then even the 7,1 Mac Pro was not for you, because it only went to 1.5TB of RAM...

But the RAM capacity of the 7,1 was only because of the Xeon inside, and the need to fill all the RAM slots for maximum bandwidth; previous Mac Pro models never had such a high RAM capacity...

Very few end users actually need 1.5TB of RAM...

Mn Max chips have four RAM chips around them, Mn Ultra have eight, and a Mn Quadra would have sixteen...

We already know how much surrounding space is needed with the Mn Ultra, and a quad Mn Max configuration would not allow the same layout...

The answer is a double-sided logic board, with RAM chips on both sides...?
 
We already know how much surrounding space is needed with the Mn Ultra, and a quad Mn Max configuration would not allow the same layout...

The answer is a double-sided logic board, with RAM chips on both sides...?
Tricky, given the other side of the memory package surface is the motherboard itself :)
 
Tricky, given the other side of the memory package surface is the motherboard itself :)

Maybe the SoC (SiP) PCB is slotted into a SuperDuperUltraHighSpeed proprietary slot; so upgradable for the future and double-sided for RAM placement...

Or, still slotted, but both RAM & SoC (SiP) are on both sides of the PCB, one Mn Ultra per side, one heat sink per side...?

I dunno, slept in and just having coffee now...
 
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If you need more than 1.5TB of RAM, then even the 7,1 Mac Pro was not for you, because it only went to 1.5TB of RAM...

But the RAM capacity of the 7,1 was only because of the Xeon inside, and the need to fill all the RAM slots for maximum bandwidth; previous Mac Pro models never had such a high RAM capacity...

Very few end users actually need 1.5TB of RAM...

Mn Max chips have four RAM chips around them, Mn Ultra have eight, and a Mn Quadra would have sixteen...

We already know how much surrounding space is needed with the Mn Ultra, and a quad Mn Max configuration would not allow the same layout...

The answer is a double-sided logic board, with RAM chips on both sides...?
Dell and others support 2TB of RAM way before 2019 and does not justify having less RAM.

Double sided still doesn't solve the problem with upgradability and connectivity compared to all in one SoC. Beside, you will need double sided coolers which is a terrible idea.
 
Dell and others support 2TB of RAM way before 2019 and does not justify having less RAM.

Does not matter what Dell and others support, I am going off what Apple has traditionally supported; the 7,1 Mac Pro is an outlier in regards to maximum RAM capacity in a Mac Pro...

Double sided still doesn't solve the problem with upgradability and connectivity compared to all in one SoC. Beside, you will need double sided coolers which is a terrible idea.

Give up on upgradability with Apple silicon, the paradigm has shifted...

And the main heat sink onthe front would cover the SoC & RAM (as it currently does in almost all other ASi models), backside RAM would only need much smaller heat sinks on the individual RAM chips...
 
Does not matter what Dell and others support, I am going off what Apple has traditionally supported; the 7,1 Mac Pro is an outlier in regards to maximum RAM capacity in a Mac Pro...
It does matter. Mac Pro is just another computer.

Give up on upgradability with Apple silicon, the paradigm has shifted...

And the main heat sink onthe front would cover the SoC & RAM (as it currently does in almost all other ASi models), backside RAM would only need much smaller heat sinks on the individual RAM chips...
Then Mac Pro is doomed before it comes out. That's why a lot of pro users including myself are concerned.
 
Then Mac Pro is doomed before it comes out. That's why a lot of pro users including myself are concerned.

Is the Mac Pro Doomed? Maybe... we'll see if Apple ships it. If they ship it, it is probably not doomed.

Should Pro users like yourself be concerned? If you need a Mac Pro with more than 512GB of RAM, you should be FAR more than concerned... you should be making plans to leave the platform and give up on Apple.
 
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In my opinion, Apple has already lost the professional industrial market.
Most of the professional industry uses Windows/Linux based workstations.
An industry that needs modular computers with extremely fast graphics accelerators.
The switch to Apple Silicon only limits the Mac in everything related to a professional computer, let's face it Apple doesn't have any Mac that can handle such heavy tasks and don't tell me Mac Studio because I got to work on it and the device is just a joke for YouTubers.
The problem is that Apple has left a lot of open ends in regards to professional software, even the professional Nuke package is not complete on the Mac, the popular UNREAL 5 engine also remains out of bounds especially since Apple's GPU is limited only to metal, important features such as RAY TRACING at the hardware level and also coding AV1 in hardware were left out of the picture. As a professional user, I left the ecosystem in favor of a professional PC, I was tired of all Apple transitions that involve unnecessary financial expenses. From my experience on a PC it's not that bad, on the contrary I have complete freedom and compliance with all industry standards. Windows 11 today is very similar to Mac OS and anyone who claims otherwise is just a fanboy.
It's a waste of your precious time and watching Apple throw you a bone. Build yourself a PC today that will serve you and work for you.

I am attaching a video that shows where the graphic industry is going...
 
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In my opinion, Apple has already lost the professional industrial market.
Most of the professional industry uses Windows/Linux based workstations.
An industry that needs modular computers with extremely fast graphics accelerators.
The switch to Apple Silicon only limits the Mac in everything related to a professional computer, let's face it Apple doesn't have any Mac that can handle such heavy tasks and don't tell me Mac Studio because I got to work on it and the device is just a joke for YouTubers.
The problem is that Apple has left a lot of open ends in regards to professional software, even the professional Nuke package is not complete on the Mac, the popular UNREAL 5 engine also remains out of bounds especially since Apple's GPU is limited only to metal, important features such as RAY TRACING at the hardware level and also coding AV1 in hardware were left out of the picture. As a professional user, I left the ecosystem in favor of a professional PC, I was tired of all Apple transitions that involve unnecessary financial expenses. From my experience on a PC it's not that bad, on the contrary I have complete freedom and compliance with all industry standards. Windows 11 today is very similar to Mac OS and anyone who claims otherwise is just a fanboy.
It's a waste of your precious time and watching Apple throw you a bone. Build yourself a PC today that will serve you and work for you.

I am attaching a video that shows where the graphic industry is going...
Main reason I didn't switch to PC yet is because I got so used to all the keyboard shortcuts and how intuitive the OS is - with all quality of life features it provides with drag and dropping, using keyboard shortcuts + mouse to speed things up, how interactive it is once you know all the gimmicks. Is windows 11 really there? Can I drag an image from let's say whatsapp, hover it over an icon of the app and it will maximize the view so I can use it in said app? Can I ALT+TAB in both directions? (Alt + Tab / Alt +Shift+ Tab)? Can I Alt + Tab and once the icon slider shows, move the mouse to the program I need? I am using easily 200+ tricks like that to fasten the workflow and it kind of looks like 90s movie Hackers movie when i work :D I really don't want to lose that... hence the real question - does Windows really have all these OS tricks? At this point, this is my main reason to keep suffering and waiting for maybe nothing - a Mac Pro that makes sense.
 
Main reason I didn't switch to PC yet is because I got so used to all the keyboard shortcuts and how intuitive the OS is - with all quality of life features it provides with drag and dropping, using keyboard shortcuts + mouse to speed things up, how interactive it is once you know all the gimmicks. Is windows 11 really there? Can I drag an image from let's say whatsapp, hover it over an icon of the app and it will maximize the view so I can use it in said app? Can I ALT+TAB in both directions? (Alt + Tab / Alt +Shift+ Tab)? Can I Alt + Tab and once the icon slider shows, move the mouse to the program I need? I am using easily 200+ tricks like that to fasten the workflow and it kind of looks like 90s movie Hackers movie when i work :D I really don't want to lose that... hence the real question - does Windows really have all these OS tricks? At this point, this is my main reason to keep suffering and waiting for maybe nothing - a Mac Pro that makes sense.
You will be surprised to find out, but Windows has a lot of shortcuts and features that make the computer experience better. One of them is the WIN+V key that I can't live without.
In addition, it is very convenient to have built-in AI in Windows 11.

 
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