The only thing that could possible beat all this is if apple finally masters the simple problem of designing a mouse that doesn't suck.
That's one worry I don't have. I use a Wacom tablet.
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That's one worry I don't have. I use a Wacom tablet.
Updated MacPro maybe at MacWorld 08
There is a chance that updated MacPro's are coming until MacWorld 2008 because if you goto alienware.com, there new 45nm QX9850 ALX is on sale now but won't arrive until January 1, 2008, so it may be a chance the MacPro are going to release at MacWorld 08, and I also hope Apple will release new Cinema Displays with built-in iSight, well we won't know anything until Apple release's their new line of display's and MacPro, I gues it's still a waiting game.
There is a chance that updated MacPro's are coming until MacWorld 2008 because if you goto alienware.com, there new 45nm QX9850 ALX is on sale now but won't arrive until January 1, 2008, so it may be a chance the MacPro are going to release at MacWorld 08, and I also hope Apple will release new Cinema Displays with built-in iSight, well we won't know anything until Apple release's their new line of display's and MacPro, I gues it's still a waiting game.
And let the big bins of 3.2s sit there in their warehouses and depreciate right?
Lol, you are one idealistic one.
The QX9850 is a desktop (Yorkfield) chip.
The Mac Pro uses workstation (Harpertown) chips.
I understand that but the point I was trying to make is that QX9850 is a Penryn's 45nm chip and it will be available on Jan.1,2008 and that's why I think the MacPro will be updated at MacWorld 2008.
Not true. Well, partially true. Apple's number one concern should be to it's customers. For if you have no customers, you have poor sales, which causes shareholder losses. The "shareholders first at all cost" mentality has somewhat been left in the 1990's, aside from some holdover companies like Nike or GM. A lot of corporate shareholder mindsets, even in the tech world, are more and more based on stability. Apple is also a company run to an extent by a demi-god: Steve Jobs, whose genius is likely not often challenged by any board member or shareholder, at least not when push comes to shove, or without the doors being very tightly closed during such conversations. I mean, put yourself in the shoes of a major shareholder; would you attempt to make demands on him in a shareholder meeting? And could you back up such demands with any logic or computer-technology acumen to his face? Or would you have the guts to do so in public? I question whether anyone on the planet could, or would, aside from someone like Larry Ellison. Furthermore, when Apple and Jobs are likely to be pressured by shareholders, not only would it be subtle, it would be in times when profits stagnate with consistency, or business practices fail or are questionable by their peers. Something that isn't very common at Apple.
Sorry, big digression, I know. The thoughts though of taxes, or shareholder profits do play into decisions made by Apple's board, of course. But they are likely secondary to sales potential. If Apple thinks they can sell more by releasing pre-Christmas, they will. If they think MWSF is the time and place to announce, they will. Or if they think that waiting until June is the best time to maximize sales, they will. I'm still hoping by December, as it would benefit me, and my business. But MWSF would be acceptable at the latest. If nothing then, I might as well give up and stick to old G5's and spend my money elsewhere.
Apple's products don't depreciate. They just get old and outdated, but cost the same.
I currently have a custom PC with a Penryn QX9650 cpu in it. These Penryn chips are awesome. It's just too bad you can't overclock them on a mac like you can on a pc. I have mine running at 4800mhz here. I really wish they would configure a mac like this with a single quad Penryn. The performance would be awesome and the cost would be less that the dual setup they now offer.
Yeah they need to do something about that as well. It's definitely worth waiting for the updates at this point.
Like how everyone else is anxious for an updated Mac Pro, its always the last to be updated and due to the fact that its been over a year without a major change to it really makes me believe that this "next" Mac Pro will be a big change.
If its only going to be a CPU and GPU update, then it may satisfy most people but in my opinion, the style is looking stale so it would be nice if it gets a complete overhaul.
If its only going to be a CPU and GPU update, then it may satisfy most people but in my opinion, the style is looking stale so it would be nice if it gets a complete overhaul.
I agree that is is stale. Be careful though, the traditionalists will grill you for thinking that
Stale? Yeah s'pose. But change the cosmetics as long as it's not used as an excuse to jack the price!
I don't think that has been the case historically.
Don't get me wrong, the current Mac Pro/old G5 Power Mac def has its mark in style, it was sleek and had a neat front grill just like a car. But if you look at the rest of the Mac lineup, it looks out of style (yes I know its a professional machine). The insides of the Mac Pro is one of the cleanest and easiest to upgrade (if they can keep that sort of concept, that'd be great).
If anything lets make the case carbon fiber, update the front grill (treat it like a car), and of course keep those dual slot optical drives.
If anything lets make the case carbon fiber, update the front grill (treat it like a car), and of course keep those dual slot optical drives.
I agree that is is stale. Be careful though, the traditionalists will grill you for thinking that
The case has remained the same for at least the last 3 maybe 4 years - time for a change. The case is and always will be considered a classic but that's hardly a reason for designers to be satisfied in not trying to make it better.
Take a look at the older apple stuff. I thought the Ti powerbook looked absolutely beautiful.. and when the aluminum PB came out I was blown away. Well not really, but my point is that even if the design looks great, apple will still redesign it.
Is there a faster chip than the 3.2 quad coming out in the next few months? If not, there's nothing that could cause depreciation.
Maybe. There has been talk of 3.4 GHz and 3.6 GHz being possible in the near future and I've seen speculation that they may even release up to 4 GHz before Nehalem takes over. The 3.2GHz processors are likely to hold their price until Nehalem comes anyway, so depreciation isn't really an issue.
I keep changing my mind between new (hopefully 8 core mp) and a cheap pc, with sli, quad core and 8gb ram for a grand....
Please come soon!
Please come soon!