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Mac Pro Now Unavailable for Purchase from European Apple Online Stores
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No, a cancellation is finally upon us. Next shoe to drop is the US market. I'm sure they'll find a nice excuse!
Can't buy it in the UK now. Stupid Apple, seriously couldn't be bothered to fit a fan guard for the meantime, instead just dumps the entire European market! Well I guess it's a waiting game for Europe now and considering just how long the waiting game has been with the new Pro already...... hmm maybe September or November before the new one is launched.
Wonder if their share price has fallen again today?
Wonder if their share price has fallen again today?
The short answer: Apple is making NO profit from the Mac Pro. That's why it's in line for cancellation. 0.0016% ~ 0%.
Actually the profit 'per unit' for a Mac Pro is high. It's obviously a low percentage of overall profit. But nobody knows if that's enough for them to cancel the whole thing.
I am tired of "slimmer, simpler yet more powerful" jokes. I sent back a Macbook pro i7 last week because it is too hot and noisy for my choice. Now there goes the "state-of-the-art" designs.
My endurance for this Money Extractor machine is thinner and thinner. It has the most powerful marketing machinery which can brainwash people and turn defects into beauties. Examples?
iExtract devices
"...They innovate so fast and so much that they have to set a standard for themselves..."
Or "... when coming to Apple, it'd better you learn the Apple's ways of doing things...".
I actually find the later statement helped me to reduce frustration.
But isn't that how an Apple fanboy is made? On the other hand, I have strong feeling of being pushed to buy and upgrade just to have a new feature. The pressure of Apple's closed ecology is very high. One has to pay high prices to get some sense of high quality product but also has to scarify freedom of choices.
My endurance for this Money Extractor machine is thinner and thinner. It has the most powerful marketing machinery which can brainwash people and turn defects into beauties. Examples?
iExtract devices
- Lack of usb ports
- Fixed internal storage
- hold back of hardware upgrades, i.e. camera
- Lack of ports again, i.e. HDMI. The excuses of "innovation" doesn't buy me.
- No "Delete" keys on keyboard (at least for Nordic countries' models)
- No "Cut and Paste". I had to buy a Finder plugin for this.
- Sharp-edged aluminum unibody scratches my wrists unnecessarily.
- Touch pad let me do left and right mouse clicks from middle of the pad. This ease and convenience strains my fingers every time I use it because I have to push harder to register the clicks. Well, you can say this is my fault or it is how you can train iron fingers. The smart pad is not fool-proof anyway.
- No HDMI or DVI ports. I can forgive lacking of DVI, but not HDMI. I bought a thunderbolt display just to use with a new thunderbolt Macbook Pro.
"...They innovate so fast and so much that they have to set a standard for themselves..."
Or "... when coming to Apple, it'd better you learn the Apple's ways of doing things...".
I actually find the later statement helped me to reduce frustration.
But isn't that how an Apple fanboy is made? On the other hand, I have strong feeling of being pushed to buy and upgrade just to have a new feature. The pressure of Apple's closed ecology is very high. One has to pay high prices to get some sense of high quality product but also has to scarify freedom of choices.
Anyone who thinks you can do CG, 4K compositing or CAD work on an iMac has no reason to be posting on this thread. Some people need 24 (and preferably more) threads to render imagery, or the fastest OpenGL card, or needs CUDA acceleration for fluid dynamics simulations or realtime physically unbiased rendering.
You get on with posting pictures of kittens on Pinterest and emailing granny, while we do some heavy lifting.
You get on with posting pictures of kittens on Pinterest and emailing granny, while we do some heavy lifting.
better than most delivery companies i know! thats what i call making the EFFORT!
Probably. We dont really have ceiling fans (at least in the UK) though. Wish we did sometimes, on that 1 day of the year its not pissing it down with rain
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Again, why would you want to buy the current model as new? Its not worth anything near its price point. You're better off either holding out a few months (if you can do that without foaming at the mouth at shiny Apple Aluminium
) or buying a second hand/refurb one and sell it in 3 months time.imac doesnt have xeons so no, it doesnt do the same. however the mac pro is such an antique that ppl compare it to imac speed. if apple replaced those old .xeons with new there would be no comparison
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Because the iMac makes noise.
Because the iMac is impossible to repair
Because the iMac is impossible to upgrade
Because the iMac is just a consumer product (nothing pro about it)
Pro's don't want something smaller, sleeker, more portable (its a desktop for christ sake!). They want something useful.
Should I continue?
You don't understand the purpose of the EU.
Without the EU Who would we blame? They're the ultimate whipping boy. Need an excuse not to do something? Dig deep enough and you'll find an EU regulation that gives you an excuse for not doing it.
Here we have a case in point - Apple wants rid of the Mac Pro. The money is in laptops and small-form-factor devices. Oh look, here's an excuse for dropping it in the EU...
Yes, there are people who genuinely need a Mac Pro, but they're an ever-shrinking pool as laptops and SFF get better. The question is whether there are enough Mac users editing 4K video or doing professional 3D visuals to support the market. Certainly, people like me who couldn't justify a Mac Pro but got one anyway will be leaving in droves. The Mac "creative professional" market has been running on inertia since the good old days of the 1990s when PCs simply weren't up to the job.
That then makes sense for the high price tags of Xeon's. 2-3k a chip. Versus $600-$200 for i7/i5's.
Probably. We dont really have ceiling fans (at least in the UK) though. Wish we did sometimes, on that 1 day of the year its not pissing it down with rain
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I'm imagining all these europeans swinging from their ceiling fans after unleashing the cage.
It depends on what you need. For some people, an iPad does everything a Mac Pro does.
Again, why would you want to buy the current model as new? Its not worth anything near its price point. You're better off either holding out a few months (if you can do that without foaming at the mouth at shiny Apple Aluminium
That is a very short sighted view and again the view of a consumer not as a business owner.
I bought one 2 months ago - And it made it's money back + 40% profit after Tax in a single 2 week job. And now it's just making me money every day.
It's a device to make money with... Not to view you tube.
Why did I buy that rather than a Windows Workstation which may have been faster...
Obvious software issues - The software I have is all mac versions.
But mainly it because I have had nothing but trouble with windows drivers and conflicts - this is not a Win V Mac thing. Windows 8 is a fine OS -
When you have a deadline and can be guaranteed a certain experience and ease out of the box
Being able to pop 1 mile to my nearest apple store and just pick one up - instead of the 7-14 Day lead on HP or Dell ( UK )
If something happens they can usually fix or swap out in store
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I posted before - VFX for film and TV https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16868944#post16868944
end of it
well, apple is searching an excuse to kill the macpro. after they screw up the FCP the sells for macpro went down. big production houses moved to avid and adobe and that in turn resulted in very low numbers for macpro. if you look at numbers, once Apple did the stupid thing called FCP kill there is not a single serious pro who would touch their hardware. all over the place businesses are switching to the windows and hp or dell(or boxx or whatever). i switched last year april. i still want to go back apple(after all i have more then 10 years with them) but from a business point off view i can't justify it anymore. i don't trust apple anymore, so i am not spending thousands on it not knowing what is next. in Europe the macpro is like 5700$(dual socket); what a bad joke! i wonder when they will start to see the effect on bad name over the company. once you loose your name, then it's only the end in sight. printing houses are dumping apple, creative houses and in a word all of the hard core/pro users are doing the same thing. when apple will understand that the revenue they get from the home users where generated by their good name it once had on the pro market it will be too late.... just my 2 cents. what if they will start loosing the trend with itoys? well, how you will convince a pro to go back to your products once you did what you did in the last 3 years?????
well, apple is searching an excuse to kill the macpro. after they screw up the FCP the sells for macpro went down. big production houses moved to avid and adobe and that in turn resulted in very low numbers for macpro. if you look at numbers, once Apple did the stupid thing called FCP kill there is not a single serious pro who would touch their hardware. all over the place businesses are switching to the windows and hp or dell(or boxx or whatever). i switched last year april. i still want to go back apple(after all i have more then 10 years with them) but from a business point off view i can't justify it anymore. i don't trust apple anymore, so i am not spending thousands on it not knowing what is next. in Europe the macpro is like 5700$(dual socket); what a bad joke! i wonder when they will start to see the effect on bad name over the company. once you loose your name, then it's only the end in sight. printing houses are dumping apple, creative houses and in a word all of the hard core/pro users are doing the same thing. when apple will understand that the revenue they get from the home users where generated by their good name it once had on the pro market it will be too late.... just my 2 cents. what if they will start loosing the trend with itoys? well, how you will convince a pro to go back to your products once you did what you did in the last 3 years?????
Yeah, I'm sure Pixar has an iMac render farm...
EDIT: I know they probably use something other than Mac, but still the original comment I replied too is sehr moronic...
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Where should one go to purchase a 12-core Xeon with 128GB ram, two optical drives, four 3.5" drive bays, and three pci slots?
Last I remember, Apple dropped Apple Computer Inc and went to just Apple.
Apple only wants to sell you iPhones, iPads and iwatches anymore.
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Talk about feeding a troll... Are you full yet?