In this case, I think it really is just a coincidence.
Apple, nor any other system vendor has any control on Intel's release dates.
If you recall, the original plan was to release Q4 '08. That date has been pushed back by Intel, not Apple.
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Mac Pro refresh - how soon after Macworld?
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Apple, nor any other system vendor has any control on Intel's release dates.
If you recall, the original plan was to release Q4 '08. That date has been pushed back by Intel, not Apple.
I produce a 200+ page magazine and my single processor 2.8 Mac Pro is overkill. I always have at least InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, and 5 other programs open. Bought a $1999 refurb a few months ago and I love it.
But the current top two iMacs would have done the trick.
And it looks like we won't even have an interim update this time (however small the last one was).
I am predicting WWDC 2009 for the update. I really don't see it coming any later than that, and anything earlier is a pleasant surprise.
So by being pessimistic*, I can be optimistic. Westmere won't be far off (H1 2010), but at this 1.5-year update cycle, Apple might make Westmere the interim update (6-core) and make the next real update with Sandy Bridge early in 2011.
* Well, WWDC's not pessimistic anymore…
I am predicting WWDC 2009 for the update. I really don't see it coming any later than that, and anything earlier is a pleasant surprise.
Did you come up with this yourself or are you just following what I've said in several threads about why I predict the way I predict?
Either way, major kudos.
I think it's a combination of the two.Did you come up with this yourself or are you just following what I've said in several threads about why I predict the way I predict?
Either way, major kudos.
I would buy a current one but they have already released benchmarks showing that a single core i7 out performs the current mac pro 2.8 with digital video/4k files etc.
So its basically impossible for this to be released at Macworld? Given that the processors wont even be manufactured until January this seems to be the case...
bummer?
So its basically impossible for this to be released at Macworld? Given that the processors wont even be manufactured until January this seems to be the case...
bummer?
I would imagine that overclocking was used to pull that one off.
As far as hyperthreading, it seems to actually work this time around, unlike the P4.
Personally, I'm still trying to get a handle on the economy of the Xeon 5500's, to see if they're worth the additional $$$ at this time. Despite the memory performance gains.
Now if I can only get hold of some real performance figures, and retail pricing, rather than guesstimating them.
PcPlus magazine last month (and some others I think) compared Core i7 at 3.2GHz with Skulltrail at 3.2GHz in some multi-threaded tests and Skulltrail was faster (with two chips vs one) but not by much (something like 45 to 41 in fps on one test I think - I'm doing this from memory).
I would imagine that a 3.2GHz Core i7 would be slightly faster than the standard Mac Pro (2.8GHz) on multi-threaded tasks and much faster on tasks which are less well designed for multi-threads. But a 3.2GHz Core i7 is pretty expensive so a machine built around it would probably cost as much or even more than the Mac Pro.
I wonder will Apple go OTT and introduce a Dual Socket Core i7 MacPro!! Now that would be impressive!! Totalling 16 logical cores! WOW!
Personally, I'd wait for more specs and test data to appear before drawing that conclusion, but the possibility is there if overclocking is considered.
As far as cost, I've been doing the math on this. The i7-965 vs. a dual Harpertown cost wise, varies. It can be less expensive, particularly if overclocked. Say a pair of E5420's and an OC friendly board. The savings can increase if someone has the skills to BSEL the chips, and use a less expensive board. But if you go for the E5462's, No, as it's ~$600USD more.
Already there.
Agreed! I might add that unless you are getting into intensive video editing apps (FCS2 or CS4 production apps, etc), abundant RAM and fast HHD/RAID set up will do you much good with Ps, ID, Ai, and even Acrobat.
My guestimate of when one could reasonably get a Nehalem up and running for pro use is early April. 2008 MP can more than handle CS4's graphics programs, especially if you add a decent newer graphics card with 512MB or more.
Back in Oct I had my hopes up for the new MP around Labor's Day. Last month I went for the MP and if I did upgrade to Nehalem, I would have 6 months good use for work. If it's for business, go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had
On the other hand, Apple could at any time between now and April with a sneak attack of new MP launch --I'd be damned pissed and excited at the same time!That doesn't mean much. Games don't really take advantage of 4 cores yet, not to mention there are better apps for testing CPU "speed". While that doesn't make the tests invalid, it does make them kind of irrelevant.
Some guys with the company assimilate and silverado did the tests that found the single core i7 faster then the current top MP.
This was with video processing only! I dont know if they did other tests.
I would just get a current MP but the i7 will really offer what indie video guys need for the upcoming flow of 4k resolution video in the professional world!
Currently to work in real time with 4k your looking at a $500,000 DaVinci (color correcting) system...
no thanks
This was with video processing only! I dont know if they did other tests.
I would just get a current MP but the i7 will really offer what indie video guys need for the upcoming flow of 4k resolution video in the professional world!
Currently to work in real time with 4k your looking at a $500,000 DaVinci (color correcting) system...
no thanks
That would be awesome. More rendering power is always gooder!Some guys with the company assimilate and silverado did the tests that found the single core i7 faster then the current top MP.
This was with video processing only! I dont know if they did other tests.
I would just get a current MP but the i7 will really offer what indie video guys need for the upcoming flow of 4k resolution video in the professional world!
Currently to work in real time with 4k your looking at a $500,000 DaVinci (color correcting) system...
no thanks