Mac Pro Rising

No One

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The nMP is going down the tubes. Cancelled. EOL. In the trash can.

Why? Word in Apple HQ is sales of the new form factor are disaster. Worse failure than Power Mac G4 Cube because studios and major buyers complained loudly and then switched to Windows workstations, hit Apple where they feel it.

But Mac Pro is not over. Factory now retooled for 7,1.

macOS Sierra RAID is not without purpose, but no current Macs have a use for RAID. But macpro7,1 will.

Even bigger complaint than loss of vast internal storage? Loss of PCIe slots. Typical studio invested tens of thousands in PCIe hardware now useless with tubular Mac Pro. Easier to switch to Windows than invest in TB. macpro7,1 changes the game.

I have seen. Not conventional tower but maybe just as good. Or maybe not. Far superior to Tube Trash Can. Don’t expect anything like cMP tower.​


Who am I? No one.
 

sunapple

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Consumers can't handle change very well, professionals hate it. Understandable if you've invested a lot in certain hardware. Still, if they made the nMP switch and went full Thunderbolt and whatnot, how well would they respond to another change? Apple obviously thought nMP would become the new normal back in 2013, they're not known for giving up on such thoughts.

The Cube never was a full PowerMac replacement, but it was an example of a failed product on Apple's part. I do, however, love the boldness of the Cube and some other Apple products like the iMac G4. You hear people complain about how little the iPhone has progressed, the same way people complain some other products are too advanced (future-like) like the one-port Retina MacBook.

I don't know, but I hope Apple sticks to their game and just forces their vision onto customers like they always do. We wouldn't have had the same great hardware we have today if they just followed the rest.
 

LorenK

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While I am suspect of rumors, this is at least worth wishing for. My 3,1 is getting long in the tooth and I would like a new box that is as versatile, but is counter to the trash can philosophy. Maybe Apple realizes that the market for peripherals for the trash can just wasn't big enough for third party manufacturers to develop for. Maybe they'll go the modular route, which might be the best of both worlds.
 

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From out of nowhere…


The nMP is going down the tubes. Cancelled. EOL. In the trash can.

Why? Word in Apple HQ is sales of the new form factor are disaster. Worse failure than Power Mac G4 Cube because studios and major buyers complained loudly and then switched to Windows workstations, hit Apple where they feel it.

But Mac Pro is not over. Factory now retooled for 7,1.

macOS Sierra RAID is not without purpose, but no current Macs have a use for RAID. But macpro7,1 will.

Even bigger complaint than loss of vast internal storage? Loss of PCIe slots. Typical studio invested tens of thousands in PCIe hardware now useless with tubular Mac Pro. Easier to switch to Windows than invest in TB. macpro7,1 changes the game.

I have seen. Not conventional tower but maybe just as good. Or maybe not. Far superior to Tube Trash Can. Don’t expect anything like cMP tower.​


Who am I? No one.
Keep'em coming and say hello to Tim if you can!
 
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pat500000

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Hey No One, I hear you in regards to frustration...but people are venting by going hackintosh and Windows and nMP.

This uprising of yours was like the movie "rise of the planet of the planet of ape" I would watch this twice at the theater. Your comment is humorous as well as others... But
Tim Cook thinks he's Michael Jackson and people don't agree he is gonna tell them "beat it."
 

No One

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Too risky.

macpro7,1 will be much like the tick of the tick tock cycle. Very few technical changes, radical form factor change. Don't expect the latest AMD silicon. Remember this is Apple, you will buy what they offer and you will like it.
 
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richmlow

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I sure hope that a Mac Pro 7.1 is in the works for the near future!


From out of nowhere…


The nMP is going down the tubes. Cancelled. EOL. In the trash can.

Why? Word in Apple HQ is sales of the new form factor are disaster. Worse failure than Power Mac G4 Cube because studios and major buyers complained loudly and then switched to Windows workstations, hit Apple where they feel it.

But Mac Pro is not over. Factory now retooled for 7,1.

macOS Sierra RAID is not without purpose, but no current Macs have a use for RAID. But macpro7,1 will.

Even bigger complaint than loss of vast internal storage? Loss of PCIe slots. Typical studio invested tens of thousands in PCIe hardware now useless with tubular Mac Pro. Easier to switch to Windows than invest in TB. macpro7,1 changes the game.

I have seen. Not conventional tower but maybe just as good. Or maybe not. Far superior to Tube Trash Can. Don’t expect anything like cMP tower.​


Who am I? No one.
 
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mp11

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Tube, tower, hypercube... just give back the ability to upgrade the machine's GPUs. I'm willing to negotiate on other design choices, but GPU upgradability is pretty much a deal-breaker. CPUs may be stagnating but GPUs still have considerable room to improve year to year. A workstation's CPU/memory subsystem will be perfectly performant long after its GPUs have become poky. And yeah, eGPUs are becoming more practical, but that's a crappy alternative to upgradable GPUs in a desktop workstation. I don't want a couple of obsolete, disused GPUs sucking up power and limiting the thermal headroom of my box.

Dual sockets would be nice; high core counts can be achieved far more economically on a dual socket system... but upgradable GPUs are essential on a graphics workstation IMO.
 

pat500000

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Tube, tower, hypercube... just give back the ability to upgrade the machine's GPUs. I'm willing to negotiate on other design choices, but GPU upgradability is pretty much a deal-breaker. CPUs may be stagnating but GPUs still have considerable room to improve year to year. A workstation's CPU/memory subsystem will be perfectly performant long after its GPUs have become poky. And yeah, eGPUs are becoming more practical, but that's a crappy alternative to upgradable GPUs in a desktop workstation. I don't want a couple of obsolete, disused GPUs sucking up power and limiting the thermal headroom of my box.

Dual sockets would be nice; high core counts can be achieved far more economically on a dual socket system... but upgradable GPUs are essential on a graphics workstation IMO.
Well 6,1 didn't have gpu upgradibility unless you consider choosing your gpu from Apple website as upgrade.
 
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