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Mac Pro Shipping Estimates Improve to 3 to 5 Weeks
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Ordered mine Feb, received last week. Totally worth the wait. Got it in the exact configuration I wanted; beautiful build , fast and better than I expected.
But I agree. Patience is good and I wish it on everyone as well.
Now waiting for new TB displays. 24" retina's would be awesome.
Weirdest thing. Didn't hear anything too; then just a text said it shipped and scheduled delivery was next day.
Glad you got it! I decided to have it delivered to the Apple Store down the street. They are supposed to call when the have it for pick up.
Processors must still be supply constrained. No reason at all to think this has anything to do with them being produced in the USA. Intel is the problem. They no longer have any competition and it seems like it is getting lazy again.
You mean the E7? Those are generally intended for quad cpu systems, apple has never used them in the Mac pro.
What you are saying makes no sense, Apple have been selling computers their entire life and this is the first time this happen.
In my company we haven't ordered the new mac pro because of this problem, so we took other options. If they had a decent delivery time they would be selling more.
If other options were viable why was your company waiting on a Mac Pro? I think very few companies were in the same position as you are. They either needed the Mac Pro, ordered and waited (btw, business teams had priority) or they never needed it and ordered other workstations a long time ago, since everyone knew the specs and non-OSX alternatives have been available a few months before the Mac Pro was even announced, let alone shipped.
Not exactly a big secret that these would be insanely delayed.
As for apple losing revenue over not shipping fast enough, I doubt it. I think everyone wants to sound like somehow their purchase or company's purchase makes such a huge impact on apple that apple should revisit the way they did something solely for this person/companies satisfaction. Companies care about ROI. And if waiting an extra 2 months means not investing in new software, training, etc, they would wait; losing a lot of money over being impatient is not something a company should tolerate for a purchaser.
Also, most investments are NEVER instant anyway. Only prosumers/consumers need that instant gratification. If your company execs / IT directors make decisions based on personal instant-gratification measures, may I recommend another company. That ship will eventually sink.
EDIT: also wanted to mention most smart companies rarely buy a first-generation device anyway. Only early adopters do that and that's rare in a company.
Personally I think you are just unhappy about this and making it sound like some huge Fortune 500 got affected by this. Sorry, no one cares. For you, I recommend order and wait. A month wait is a joke but totally worth it.
Regardless of all of that, and this is a fact;
If Apple had more computers available to sell there are more available to buy. There will be companies of all sizes/incomes/disciplines that have been forced at the very least to consider if not buy alternatives.
The Mac Pro has been a long time coming and it should be obvious that some of those previous customers will have jumped ship. Including those that 'care about ROI'.
Some pretty large companies that love to think their processes are all about ROI have made some terrible decisions, including Apple.
Very true about everything you stated but also keep in mind, carrying inventory and/or expanding a production plant is very risky. You cannot mass produce a Mac Pro because no matter what anyone thinks the volume will never be as high as an imac or MacBook Pro. This is the reason they brought manufacturing in house (that and score patriot points I think) . For one, having a plant in China that produces a very limited number of custom units is financial suicide. And 2, not to sound mean-but I've been in ops too long, china is not good at piecing things together when it comes to many combination of devices that have to be QA'd based on configuration. The Mac Pro is "assembled" in the US, but every single part is still from China.
I take it back about other alternatives. I just ordered 2 HP Z620's and their lead time right now is 4 weeks for shipment. When I talked to my rep, he told me they are built to order and usually take a week, but in my case take more because e5 xeons are lacking.
So if Dell, HP other producers of custom order-very expensive-devices take such a long lead time and no one complains. I'd guess because no one cares as much and apple is held to an insanely high standard (as it should since this is their core value).
The way I see it, apple is smart. Keeping the facility lean and having a huge lead time is risk mitigation rather than expanding the facility to provide for huge demand only to lose all that money after demand has subsided (and it will). You are right, I think, they are losing money for not keeping up with demand. But not anywhere near the amount they would lose by creating a huge production plant that would keep up with demand and then have to close parts down as demand does down.
I think apple is checking forecasting every minute of the day. The lead time improvement is either because demand is dropping (possible) or demand has picked up even more and they were extending the manufacturing facility in the last few months.
All this is based on my experience and since I don't work for apple, this stays as just my opinion. It does make sense to me, but I also feel that Apple gets rammed for the same things that other business do but no one cares. Apple's customers are definitely more demanding, require better treatment and expect quality that they don't from anyone else. Apple responds because they make their money off keeping you happy and buying their devices and services. Unlike other companies whose revenue comes from advertising and whose sole purpose of creating an OS for devices is to have a much larger ad platform.
Your opinion is no less valid than mine however you came by your conclusions. I'm not sure I'd call Apple smart but I would say that they are not stupid, and there is a subtle difference here.
I'm by no means blinded by Apple's marketing or shiny devices. I get to play with all sorts of devices. Lots of things I don't like about Apple, but a ton I doBy the way MotoX is still my favorite phone. But we live in a world where mixing echo systems is very difficult and requires a lot of compromises, so I'm sticking with the one that keeps my workflow smooth with the least amount of troubles.
The differences are subtle, you are totally right. However... missing the mark on an iPhone 6, is not going to be subtle. I hope they do not screw that one up. They always amaze with a new release (well not the S' releases, they are "cool", but not "holy cow I want this now" wow). But iPhone 6 better be a huge "omg, finally" kind of wow.
I agree. I've been in the Apple eco system since 2001. On the whole I love it. There were times when they'd do something and my attitude was, 'well that's life', or 'if you don't like it take your money elsewhere'.
Lately tho I've found myself on the wrong side of the choices they make and I've come to the conclusion that although I love their products, I don't like them as a company.
I'm running ML on a MP1,1. Something they said was not possible as my 64 bit computer, (pretty sure it was advertised that way), actually has a 32bit weak spot.
There are lots more examples but now is not the time.
I think with Apple you have to stay on top and be a consistent early adopter. I think I never have the issues you have because I always sell old equipment and upgrade. With Apple it's easy because all things hold their value and are easily sold and the money reused to buy something new (assuming you don't wait 4 iterations). I learned it's not that much more expensive than holding on to something old and having constant support issues and frustrations. I guess, in a sense, I'm Apple's perfect customer. They never need to support me, because I'm always under warranty (with the exception of large-scale items like the Mac Pro, which I do not upgrade until Apple care is close to running out). But my problems are always minor. But then again, my equipment/devices are my job. It's where all my income comes from, so it would be silly to try to make old computers work or not have the top of the line tools for the job I need to do. In my job time = money. I never ever understood people that work behind computers for 9-12 hours a day and have crappy monitors and say they don't want to spend that much money on computer equipment... It almost sounds like they don't care for themselves, in a sense.
The other thing that boggles my mind are the people that hold on to an iPhone 3g and are pissed that they can't run iOS7 on it. No old hardware can run new OS's and not have issues. I don't see anyone running Windows 8 on an old 2001 compaq computer and then complain that it's too slow or has a slew of problems. Yes, phones are not that old, but phones are also released in yearly cycles, so in a sense they are that old.
In fact, if anything, that's why Windows has such a bad rep nowadays because they hold on to legacy software for such a long time and ensure that things are as far backward compatible as possible which causes too much bloat and is not intuitive or easy to use. Windows 8 went away with that and came with a totally new design and look where that landed them?–although to be fair, it's a stupid design to begin with, a tablet is not a PC.
But you can't have it both ways. Apple just choose the "let's not support crap from 2001" path which makes people angry. Microsoft chose the "let's continue supporting windows xp" route, which they also got scorched for. Then when they realized they don't want to do that, they got scorched again for dropping support for old equipment. I don't think there is a right answer to this.
Tea Party Morons in Chandler AZ turn down Apple factory
And then you have the rightwing tea party MORONS in Chandler AZ, whose school board apparently had the power to almost turn down an Apple factory that would have employed over 1000 people.
No, really.
http://www.azcentral.com/videos/news/local/gilbert/2014/04/16/7766569/
And then you have the rightwing tea party MORONS in Chandler AZ, whose school board apparently had the power to almost turn down an Apple factory that would have employed over 1000 people.
No, really.
http://www.azcentral.com/videos/news/local/gilbert/2014/04/16/7766569/
If they were assembled in China by slave labor. In prisons.
Relax. They had NO idea the demand would be so great.
no idea? really? That means Cook and his goon are stupid and have no idea what Apple was really about...or how it was started.
This is a product that hasn't had a major update in years. Nobody really knew what demand would be once they did a major refresh. And it uses chips that are among the ones that intel produces in their smallest quantities, we still don't know if the holdup on these machines is because of Apple or because they have supply constraints from intel.
Not every single part comes from china! Give apple a chance, they made an effort where many do not.
Over did that statement, but ya definitely not all. In fact I think the enclosure is made here
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Ordered mine BTO on March 25th. Arrived today, April 29, at the Apple Store down the street. 35 days.
Gratz!!