Juan Moro said:
Especially once the iMac line gets a refresh this fall with Conroe processors...
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Mac Pro To Continue Quad-Core Tradition? Woodcrest?
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Especially once the iMac line gets a refresh this fall with Conroe processors...
If Apple makes a major redesign of the PM, they will also redesign the ACD's. I believe the aluminum will be kept for the PM, just like the MBP, and as Mini, iMac and MB have retained most of their original design. They might just spec up the ACD's and put a iSight+mic in them. I hope for all to be Woodcrest, but you never know. Designwise, I just think they will make the following changes:
1: Different/more connectors on back.
2: 4 SATA bays.
3: Same easy-access door as on the G3 and G4 powermacs.
Otherwise,I hope for it to keep the design. It looks so extremely awesome, but one sweet thing, would be 3 16x PCI-X lanes
1: Different/more connectors on back.
2: 4 SATA bays.
3: Same easy-access door as on the G3 and G4 powermacs.
Otherwise,I hope for it to keep the design. It looks so extremely awesome, but one sweet thing, would be 3 16x PCI-X lanes
This is awesome news!
Personally, I love the current Power Mac G5, I'm just interested in having an Intel version, so if it looks 100% identical on the outside, I'm over the moon
In terms of dual-core and 2xdual-core processors, I reckon Apple will definitely release a top end model with 2xWoodcrest CPUs. The reason for this is the fact they launched the Quad G5. Knowing that the Intel Transition was underway, it would be very negative (at least for the casual observer) that if the top-end Intel Power Mac was launched with only 2 cores, people might question the power of these machines (it certainly wouldn't have the same headline grabbing attention!). Add to that the fact Apple has always tried to claim to have the fastest workstation machines available, it makes sense to have the top model feature 2 dual-core processors.
Bring em on!
Personally, I love the current Power Mac G5, I'm just interested in having an Intel version, so if it looks 100% identical on the outside, I'm over the moon
In terms of dual-core and 2xdual-core processors, I reckon Apple will definitely release a top end model with 2xWoodcrest CPUs. The reason for this is the fact they launched the Quad G5. Knowing that the Intel Transition was underway, it would be very negative (at least for the casual observer) that if the top-end Intel Power Mac was launched with only 2 cores, people might question the power of these machines (it certainly wouldn't have the same headline grabbing attention!). Add to that the fact Apple has always tried to claim to have the fastest workstation machines available, it makes sense to have the top model feature 2 dual-core processors.
Bring em on!
I'm surprised people are suggesting Conroe would ever get put into MacPros.
Yohan & Merom for portables (MacBook & MacBook Pro, respectively)
Conroe for iMac
Woodcrest for MacPro
it just makes sense, on so many different levels.
Yohan & Merom for portables (MacBook & MacBook Pro, respectively)
Conroe for iMac
Woodcrest for MacPro
it just makes sense, on so many different levels.
~Shard~ said:
I go back and forth on this one. FB-DIMMs seem to right now really relegated to server-class machines, although Intel touts them as also being suitable for Workstation class machines as well due to the extra bandwidth.
What I forsee is Apple offering the capability where you can either use regular DDR2 or FB-DIMM's, similar to the way the current PowerMac can handle ECC or non-ECC RAM. But that's just a guess.
Nfw
Therefore, Day 1.
The Intel 5000 chipset only supports FB-DIMM, according to the Intel site.longofest said:
Therefore, Day 1.
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yes, the MacPro will be dual/dual cores & i've heard the enclosure isn't changing much, which is a bummer. if i find out otherwise, i'll post.
yes, the MacPro will be dual/dual cores & i've heard the enclosure isn't changing much, which is a bummer. if i find out otherwise, i'll post.
Probably not.
A Windows disk is customized for the hardware on which it is installed - it doesn't contain drivers for other hardware.bigmc6000 said:
MB Buyer? said:so is there any chance the mac pro will come with a decent GPU?
That's one of the things I was wondering. Will it be able to accept any 'off the shelf' PC Graphics card if suitable drivers are included either with OS X or by the manufacturer?
MB Buyer? said:so is there any chance the mac pro will come with a decent GPU?
I heard it was going to be integrated to save on space inside the case.
Keep the G5 case, but just make it a little shorter... I have a generic desk and almost all PC's, unless I want them with a crazy design, are able to fit snuggly in the slot, but not the G5. I have to make a whole section in the computer room for it.
So just make the G5 a little shorter with crazy expandibility. Lets have the option to add anything and everything our hearts can desire.
Oh you like the super drive but you also want blue ray/HD-DVD. Ok add it on. You want 2 TBs of HD. Ok add it on! and so forth.
So just make the G5 a little shorter with crazy expandibility. Lets have the option to add anything and everything our hearts can desire.
Oh you like the super drive but you also want blue ray/HD-DVD. Ok add it on. You want 2 TBs of HD. Ok add it on! and so forth.
admford said:
But don't forget, there are users who are running apps that ARE universal already. Plus, releasing the machines puts more pressure on the app developoers.
Platform said:
Without it, how would you add a HD or bluray dvd later on? It's also nice for duping discs without having to copy to the hard drive.
Sharewaredemon said:
Of course not, the G5 has barely any expandability, even compared with the G4! The G4 could have three times as many internal drives! It's awful design, especially for such a giant case. It's basically a huge cooling system with minimal expandability thrown in.
KindredMAC said:
Are the imacs hotter? The minis? Doubt that, my mini duo runs very cool. Don't forget that most of these new machines went from one CPU core to two, if they can do that with a minimal increase in heat, I think that's pretty good.
neocell said:
Why? It makes perfect sense. Going all-woodcrest would mean a HUGE increase in prices, and would be a big waste of money for single chip configs. The only real downside to using conroe is needing two seperate motherboards, and that's not that big a deal since the mobos can be based on standard intel designs. I don't know if we'll see conroe in imacs either, depends on the heat issues more than anything else. It's funny...you say it makes sense on so many levels...yet fail to list ANY of those levels.
I Love The Current Elegant PowerMac G5 Design But...
I Love The Current Elegant PowerMac G5 Design. But I wouldn't mind if there was a second Flexible External Bay for Removable HDs or Opticals. More room for 6-7 drives and two PATA busses would be helpful too.
I voted to keep the current design because I am not sick of it. But I do wish they would build a lot more expandability into it while keeping the outside look. I really think that aesthetically it is the best design ever. But mine's on the floor anyway so I rarely look at it.
I Love The Current Elegant PowerMac G5 Design. But I wouldn't mind if there was a second Flexible External Bay for Removable HDs or Opticals. More room for 6-7 drives and two PATA busses would be helpful too.
I voted to keep the current design because I am not sick of it. But I do wish they would build a lot more expandability into it while keeping the outside look. I really think that aesthetically it is the best design ever. But mine's on the floor anyway so I rarely look at it.
I think WWDC was delayed before Woodcrest was speeded up. I don't see an advantage in waiting for a big event, allowing others to announce dual Woodcrest machines first if Apple can put out a dual Woodcrest machine now as well. Especially if no new case design is planned. Any small form factor Conroe Mac Mini Pro can wait until WWDC.~Shard~ said:Absolutely thats the whole point of delaying WWDC into August. Apple is definitely releasing the new PowerMacs at this event, and since this lines up nicely with the Conroe and Woodcrest release dates, I would not be surprised at all to see both chips introduced into the line as this news item speculates.
So I expect a dual Woodcrest Mac Pro in the same case by the end of June. As AidenShaw said, they have no choice but to take FB_DIMMs. Which graphics cards they will be able to use is an interesting question.
I said it in the last thread and I will say it here: There is no reason for apple to release a mini-tower between the iMac and Mac Pro. As of now, if Apple keeps the same pricing for the Mac Pro, there is only a $300 difference between the high end iMac and the low end Powermac. Where would this mini tower fit in? Sorry all of you mini tower fans, but its probably not going to happen.
Also, if this mini tower is semi-expandable like all of you say it will be, there will be no reason for people to buy the higher end iMac, because for less than $300 they can get an expandable machine.
Also, if this mini tower is semi-expandable like all of you say it will be, there will be no reason for people to buy the higher end iMac, because for less than $300 they can get an expandable machine.
it5five said:
The fact that you compare the iMac and Mac Pro shows that you don't get it.
There's no "between" the iMac and the tower, they are two different models. Might as well talk about a model between the macbook and tower.
The slot for the mini tower is to fill the big gap between the mini and the tower, currently $1200.
The iMac is great for a certain market, but not an option for other users. Some people want some degree of expandability and upgradability for a reasonable price. There's no reason apple couldn't release a mini tower that costs LESS than the pricier iMacs. There's a big reason for apple to do it - there are consumers that want it and would buy it. However, it would probably take away some sales from other products, so they probably won't do it.