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Mac Revenue Down 34% Year-Over-Year, But Tim Cook Expects 'Significant' Improvement With M3 Macs
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Apple has no innovation any more. Just sticking new chips in old form factors isn’t enough to get my money. You’ll have to work harder Apple!
Yep. I despise all in ones. It was ridiculous my only choices were the crappy Mac mini. Geez that thing was awful. Or the ridiculous costly 2019 Mac Pro.
Yeah, pricing on the base M3 Macs is atrocious. By the time you upgrade the iMac to have a sane amount of RAM and storage (16/512) you're looking at $400 extra dollars. Adding another 8 GB to the M3 14" MacBook Pro makes it only $300 less than the 11-core version of the M3 Pro model, which has a whole lot of extra performance and external connectivity plus another 2 GB of RAM. They really don't want you to buy an M3 computer.
I certainly hope Apple flips their focus. M1 is already good enough for even light Professional use cases. Apple needs to focus more on the high end. It’s quite ridiculous that the best of the best is the Ultra SoC as it is today. I have both M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra but still there needs to be something better. Stop focusing on the lowest of the low as you still don’t have an answer for the 2019 Mac Pro.
Because it’s literally the same thing year after year. The M1 is suffice for so many people still: my opinion Mac’s should be released every 2 yrs not every year the way they are now.
Vision Pro is coming! Something new for apple fans to get excited about and try.
storage prices are ridiculous. Not buying a new MBP until storage is more reasonable and TB5 at this point.
Apple are in danger of losing out due to high $$$.... RAM and SSD upgrades prices are a joke.
How about the 15" MBA? that gives you almost the screen size of the MBP at about half the price. If you can hold out to next spring/summer for an M3 upgrade to it, that might be a good choice.
This is misleading.
The 10-core M1 Pro has 8/2.
The 10-core M2 Pro has 6/4. So it achieves the same result while drawing less power.
The 11-core M3 Pro has 5/6.
It's significant but it was up from previous quarter:
Q3 2023: $6.8 billions
Q4 2023: $7.6 billions
Upgrade pricing for RAM and SSD storage isn't what's mainly driving slowdown of Mac revenue.
The reported quarter was better than the two previous quarters:
Q1: 7.7
Q2: 7.2
Q3: 6.8
Q4: 7.6
If MacRumors commenters were representative of Apple customer base, Apple would be the worst computer company in human history.
My girlfriend's youngest daughter is 19 and has used Apple products at least 10 years. Just a few days ago:
Me: You need Apple earphones with a Lightning cable for it to work with your iPhone
Her: Lightning??? What's that?
Me: The end of the cable shouldn't be round
Her: I see
she is the new Apple customer.
And yet, so many of them complain about the base configuration instead of complaining about the price for their configuration.
You don’t get SD and HDMI slots. They made a special 2 port + MagSafe case for this model.
it's cheap if you have to use Windows instead.
I would pay $3000 for the lowest end MacBook Air rather than using the best Windows laptop for $1800.
256GB storage for a computer going into 2024 is more criminal. After system files, apps etc there’ll be paltry amounts of storage left.
But who cares when there’s iCloud that will likely be bumped up to $40/month for a decent tier in 2025.
I'm using a M2 MBA with 256 Gb.
I have one Windows virtual machine, my iCloud Photo Library is about 200-300 Gb and my iCloud storage usage is about 400 Gb.
I have 143 Gb free space on my MBA.
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Buy her NOT-Apple earphones for pennies on the dollar and tell her it's Apple.
And then make sure she gets a lucrative degree, so she can afford to pay any price for Apple stuff when margins grow on to what: 55-60% in about 4+ more years?
As to representative, the point seems missed. MR is an Apple enthusiast site. Yes, it certainly draws in some Anti-Apple people too. But if you hang here, you probably aren't doing it solely to waste time talking about a topic of no interest.
If this crowd is generally very PRO Apple- and I certainly think it is- and this crowd is finding lots of faults with ever-rising prices, ever-rising margin, seemingly important features being cut in new generations and nickel & diming- while nothing completely new in the Appleverse- I don't think I'm the only person seeing it at a greater level than ever before.
Consumer frustrations- especially accumulating frustration- drives consumer defection.
Taking the concept to a micro, personal level, for the first time in well over a decade, I purchased a PC for "old fashioned bootcamp." And in getting the one I wanted I re-discovered costs like 8TB of SSD ($750 vs. Apples upgrade price of $2200) and 32GB of RAM ($100 vs. $600 for Apples upgrade price), etc. In fact, I purchased an entire gaming PC for less than Apple's 8TB SSD upgrade price... and equipped it with 10TB of SSD.
My old MB was failing due to old battery. So I wanted to give Apple too much money for the new MBair 15"... until I configured it as I wanted it and found pricing well in excess of MBpro. That revised my considerations back towards another MBpro... and then ultimately led me to choosing not to FARRRRRRRRR overpay for RAM & SSD ugrades but just put a $55 new battery in my old MB and ride it another year or two.
Furthermore, those 2 experiences together have me thinking that if RAM & SSD relative pricing doesn't significantly improve over the next 2 years, my next laptop may be a Windows PC... something I wouldn't even have considered 5+ years ago.
The point: accumulated goodwill will help motivate overpaying the premium to stick with the beloved platform for some amount of time as long as the goodwill is regularly recharged. How does Apple do that? Throw customer value some bones instead of seemingly making every decision for shareholders. Else, "could not even consider PC" Apple people can be moved to reconsider. And shareholders can't enjoy "another record quarter of profit" without consumers buying lots of Apple stuff.
Apple customers don't need shareholders at all. But that doesn't work the other way.
Apple fans can read such comments and basically say "See ya..." but that won't work for Apple if MANY ever start questioning why RAM costs about 3X-5X market, why SSD can be 3X-5X market, etc. Eventually, even fools wake up to wanting (or needing) more for their money. And then the true benefits have a much greater burden to overcome very tangible negatives. Again, 5 years ago, I wouldn't even consider a Windows laptop. Over the next 2 years while I stretch this old MBpro, I'm thinking about it. And in 2 years, I will not pay these markups- or more- for M5 RAM & SSD. Is that just me? Maybe. But I don't think I read that between the lines of MANY fan posts.
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Buy her NOT-Apple earphones for pennies on the dollar and tell her it's Apple.
Very few non-Apple earphones with Lightning here in Norway. Most of them are more expensive. The only one I have found being cheaper was only $3 cheaper.