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Holding quite steady in a PC declining era, exactly as they expect.

You'd think Mac sales went to 0 if you read these forums.

BTW, these are estimates. We'll get the official numbers from Apple in about 3 weeks, so take these with a grain of salt.
 
I haven’t shopped for a PC for the longest time. What makes Lenovo good here on the worldwide chart, just cheap systems?

Nope, Lenovo makes a darn good machine with perhaps the best keyboard in the business. Wish Apple used the exact same keyboard. It's awesome. I have never liked a single keyboard Apple has ever made. They feel like the bottom of the barrel garbage. The rest of the machine is great. Apple's insistence that the butterfly problem only affects a small number of us is the opposite of what potential buyers want to hear, especially when spending a premium price for a premium product.
 
I haven’t shopped for a PC for the longest time. What makes Lenovo good here on the worldwide chart, just cheap systems?

Our company has been using Lenovo for the past several years. Have been using a Thinkpad for about a year and I have to admit I am not really big fan of windows but in terms of hardware this has been a pretty good unit
 
MBs cost more when you add the cost to increase storage and dongles. The issue with the keyboard may also make people hesitant in buying MBPs too.
 
I’m in the market for a new Mac. Mine is from 2010, iMac 27”. I’ve upgeaded to ssd but it’s time to upgrade.
Looking at the apple store is despressing as all hell. They do not make any Mac that is what I want. I could settle for a Mac mini, it’ll be powerful enough for what I want it for, but the Mac mini is WAAY too expensive, misawell get a damn intel NUC for $400.

I have the cash, apple. But I’m not going to waste it on a **** deal
 
I haven’t shopped for a PC for the longest time. What makes Lenovo good here on the worldwide chart, just cheap systems?

Lenovo ThinkPads are the de facto standard for business users.

If you want a 2-in-1, it's really either only the Yoga or Surface.
 
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When has Gardner ever been correct about Mac sales? The have continuously underestimated sales when Apple was reporting them, there is no reason to think any thing has changed.
 
Apple's Mac sales could potentially be suffering due to the negative publicity surrounding the butterfly keyboard issues in the MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro, a problem that has become increasingly visible due to its impact on even the newest Mac notebooks.

No kidding, Sherlock/s

But it is not only the keyboard, although it is the most offensive and visible of all.

Queue the litany of "new-generation fixes" (which did not need fixing)...
  1. of course, keyboard (with or without "improved" key condoms)
  2. magsafe, where are you? we miss you!
  3. proprietary thunderbolt 1,2,3 .. the port to rule them all ... not! (USB 3.1 Gen2 compatibility is the saving grace)
  4. mega-sized touchpad (with imperfect palm rejection)
  5. T2 firmware with built-in "failure as an option"
  6. touch bar that no one asked, but all have to pay
  7. minimal, fixed storage configurations as entry level, with super-sized pricing for useful ones.
  8. built as a disposable appliance where any reasonable repair (e.g. battery!) demands system overhaul and sub-system replacement (top aluminum case replaced with keyboard, speakers, and battery as a single sub-system)
  9. adding insult to injury, no "Right-to-Repair", with no repair manuals and/or OEM replacement parts available to third parties.
  10. and, of course, Cook's spreadsheet where options are all priced by powers-of-2, regardless of technology trends.
So why bother?
Simple, macOS.
But that distinction is fading away... fast.
 
For me, they are a victim of their own long-lasting products. I have a 2013 MacBook Pro that still runs too well for me to justify a new one.

I have a 2012 iMac with a Fusion Drive and it works great for me even for coding. Sure a more modern processor would reduce compile times, but what I get now isn’t bad. A Fusion Drive or SSD makes the biggest difference. I had a 2011 iMac and it was much slower with just a spinning drive. Using a seven year old computer would be ridiculous fifteen years ago. But it isn’t ridiculous today.

We also have a 2011 MacBook Air. We hardly use it anymore. With iPads the MacBook Air doesn’t really serve much of a purpose in my house. It is less useful than a tablet for most things we’d use a laptop for. But when I have used it lately it works fine too.
 
I love the spin job here.




Amid a decline of 4.6 percent in worldwide PC sales, Apple's Mac sales were also down 2.5 percent in the first quarter of 2019

This statement (and the headline) couples Apple's decline with the overall industry decline. Fine. But then buries (4th paragraph) the fact that three companies actually increased sales (even downplaying one of those to "remain steady" because, well I guess the number was positive but less than 1.0...or something).

o_O
 
Amid (still) dysfunctional keyboards, lack of innovation other than making them thinner, increasing quality of windows competition.

What innovation should apple be doing as far as Mac?
 
I haven’t shopped for a PC for the longest time. What makes Lenovo good here on the worldwide chart, just cheap systems?

Best hardware out there. And the best keyboard.

I’ve switched over to X1E, and I’m not looking back. Using linux, and if this thing could run Mac OS, I wouldn’t even look at what Apple is offering.
 
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