This is why I am not fully in the Apple ecosystem. No point in fully committing since they don't support all my use cases.
I will happily go all Apple if they truly support AAA gaming.
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Mac Studio M1 Ultra GPU will be beaten by AMD and Nvidia in just 6-7 months.
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I will happily go all Apple if they truly support AAA gaming.
Apple Mac Pro 2022 processor and release details exposed as 'Extreme' name expected by Apple analyst
According to new leaks, the M1 Ultra is just the start of Apple's UltraFusion architecture. The next Mac Pro may not land until the autumn, but it could provide another huge leap over the Apple M1 Ultra in the Mac Studio with the M1 Extreme.
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Extreme sounds so....IntelApple Mac Pro 2022 processor and release details exposed as 'Extreme' name expected by Apple analyst
According to new leaks, the M1 Ultra is just the start of Apple's UltraFusion architecture. The next Mac Pro may not land until the autumn, but it could provide another huge leap over the Apple M1 Ultra in the Mac Studio with the M1 Extreme.
I wonder if Apple would move memory controllers to accommodate such a small portion of SoC sales.Apple Mac Pro 2022 processor and release details exposed as 'Extreme' name expected by Apple analyst
According to new leaks, the M1 Ultra is just the start of Apple's UltraFusion architecture. The next Mac Pro may not land until the autumn, but it could provide another huge leap over the Apple M1 Ultra in the Mac Studio with the M1 Extreme.
and for others Ultra sounds so ...Samsung and so on...every word in this planet is invented by someoneExtreme sounds so....Intel
There would far more games and emulators on macOS if Apple just supported Vulkan and did not depreciate openGL.
I mean they are both free and open standards.
I mean they are both free and open standards.
Haven't there been benches showing Windows on Arm runs best when virtualized on Apple Silicon? If that's the case, then sure, there's a performance hit in running a VM, but it would still be a better option than using e.g., a Surface-branded machine. Disclaimer: I could be misremembering.
I never said they didn't have a financial reason to dump common standards. Fairly certain about that. Doesn't matter. If a good distro becomes available that fully supports the M1, I'll consider one. Until then "dealing with it" is just not to buy. MacOS is a "meh" to me. I like their hardware more than their OS.
That may be true, but Apple figures iPhone has enough inertia to get quite a few devs to switch on both platforms.
iPhone is their primary source of revenue and they aren't wrong to focus on it. Although, lots of apps don't translate to a phone/tablet, so they might not get written for MacOS at all. If they're willing to leave customers on the table, that gives their competitors a leg up.
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So the rub of the situation is that you've had nigh on FOUR YEARS to make the requisite changes that, by your own admission were probably due to API depreciation made for good financial readons.
Meanwhile this OpenGL that you're so annoyed about has itself been deprecated by the consortium and hadn't been changed since 2017.
Wow...just wow. This is hilarious. You apparently feel that Apple should maintain a basically now dead API ad infinitum just because to do otherwise would inconvenience you personally and require you to do more work.
The consortiums own recommendations are to migrate to Vulkan. But oh no, even THAT annoys you:
So tell me, how is this anything other than your problem to fix? Neither Apple, nor the Consortium are interested in moving OpenGL forward. For Apple it's Metal, for everyone else it's Vulkan.
Why do they need to bend over backwards to make YOU personally happy?
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So the rub of the situation is that you've had nigh on FOUR YEARS to make the requisite changes that, by your own admission were probably due to API depreciation made for good financial readons.
Meanwhile this OpenGL that you're so annoyed about has itself been deprecated by the consortium and hadn't been changed since 2017.
Wow...just wow. This is hilarious. You apparently feel that Apple should maintain a basically now dead API ad infinitum just because to do otherwise would inconvenience you personally and require you to do more work.
The consortiums own recommendations are to migrate to Vulkan. But oh no, even THAT annoys you:
So tell me, how is this anything other than your problem to fix? Neither Apple, nor the Consortium are interested in moving OpenGL forward. For Apple it's Metal, for everyone else it's Vulkan.
Why do they need to bend over backwards to make YOU personally happy?
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I bought a Nintendo Switch, and haven't really touched it much. The extent of my gaming amounts to bursts of "Slay the Spire" here and there but by and large, I find I haven't really had the time for gaming of late. I guess in a way, I just don't miss what I don't need.
Then why apple join Blender. They have no control over what blender does.
Apple is dragging themselves down.
For the simple reason that there is a huge software library targeting OpenGL that is being dumped, or at least will be dumped. Much of it my industry still uses. Plus, spending time to rewrite something from a crossplatform API to a single platform API is not generally wise, so even if I wanted to rewrite all the tools I use, i wouldn't target Metal. That'd be a massive waste of effort.
As far as me, I've stated what I would like to be able to buy. Since it isn't something they intend to sell, I've bought my last Apple system, for myself or for work. So, easy fix. I'm in a market they care little about these days and has more or less dropped them in response.
Again, Linux on their hardware would be great. MacOS on their hardware I won't buy anymore. Not sure why this required so many pages to state. When I bought into it (MacOS) the focus was a bit less walled garden. Simple. A vendor changes something I rely on? I change vendors.
So, my "problem to fix" is to just switch to a different platform and stop wasting time working around their decisions. Hench my interest in their hardware without their software.
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I will say that Apple uses industry standards when it suits their purpose (and by extension, their users) and is not afraid to break away from them when those standards no longer meet their needs.
At the end of the day, standards are tools. A means to an end. Nothing more or less.
Apple's purpose is to make money. That doesn't always align with what would best serve their users.
So this is Apple’s problem just how again? Why should anyone continue to carry an API that’s not had an update for coming close to 5 years now?
Why should Apple be required to do work to bring their OpenGL implementation up to date and commit to it when the authors have given up maintaining it?
Oh yeah - because you want it and you want others to do work so you don’t have to.
We’re getting to the crux of the problem here - and it’s not Apple.
ugggg. Support vulkan Apple. Apple GPUs with Vulkan will enable software like Proton to work and the Mac will have a much bigger game library
By charging $200 for a 512GB SSD. Charging $200 for 8gb of RAM
Blender isn’t an api, it’s an application. Why would investing in a application drag them down? Do you think having the Adobe suite or Office drags them down?