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Mind sharing this workaround?

I'm not sure if it would work on the 2013 MacBook Air (I don't have one) but I had to plug in a monitor and keyboard, which worked fine, uninstall the BootCamp drivers for them, and then let Windows install the generic drivers. I think it was fixed with a BootCamp update, and I would suspect so would any issues on this one. But don't expect Apple to make it a priority.
 
About 20-30% increase in performance..? I don't know if I should go with the air or wait it out for the infinity.
 
About 20-30% increase in performance..? I don't know if I should go with the air or wait it out for the infinity.

I am curious to see what price that launches at. If it's priced competitively it will certainly challenge MBA sales with those Specs, Design and Build quality.

I'm waiting for my haswell 13' MBA to arrive on tuesday, but if the infinity were available today I would purchase that instead.
 
I am curious to see what price that launches at. If it's priced competitively it will certainly challenge MBA sales with those Specs, Design and Build quality.

I'm waiting for my haswell 13' MBA to arrive on tuesday, but if the infinity were available today I would purchase that instead.

a 13" with 8gb ram upgrade will cost 1.2k. reckon it the infinity will cost about 50% more.
 
Yeah the Infinity seems to be pretty nice but man I don't know...specs are nice but battery must be pretty *****. I don't know how they will do this because it is even thinner than the air (16mm i think) and has probably the same specs as the new expected retina (HiDPI / HD5100). So either battery will be max. 5-7hours or the new retina will be thinner as security Analyst kuo already predicted.

So I would wait for the new retina and decide between these both.
 
Not to go off topic, but is it possible to use Intel WiDi while running bootcamp?

I don't want to buy an Apple TV. I already have 6 devices not including my TV that connect to netflix just fine.
 
So many (all?) benchmarks in here have been of the i5 1.3GHz Haswell, but I just found a video of a i7 1.7GHz Haswell / 8GB / 512GB... seen it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhi-l9GnU4

Disk Read: 711.3MB/s
Disk Write: 728.9MB/s
(these back up the theory of the higher SSDs being faster?)

Geekbench: 8302
Novabench: 741
Cinebench OpenGL: 26.00 fps
Cinebench CPU: 2.90 points
 
So many (all?) benchmarks in here have been of the i5 1.3GHz Haswell, but I just found a video of a i7 1.7GHz Haswell / 8GB / 512GB... seen it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhi-l9GnU4

Disk Read: 711.3MB/s
Disk Write: 728.9MB/s
(these back up the theory of the higher SSDs being faster?)

Geekbench: 8302
Novabench: 741
Cinebench OpenGL: 26.00 fps
Cinebench CPU: 2.90 points

higher SSDs being the ones from the 13inch, or the one from the i7?
 
I think the theory is the higher capacity SSDs (i.e. 256GB & 512GB) are performing better than the 128GB versions, especially in write speed.

Sorry yeah, higher capacity. 2013 256GB and 512GB models may be faster than the 128GB models.
 
No. There are video comparisons on here between the drives in the 11 and 13" models showing the 128gb drives in the 13 at 700/700.

The 128gb in the 11" is slower on the write, but the 256/512 in the 11s have the same write speeds as all 3 drive sizes in the 13.
 
I just ordered my new MBA, 13" 1.7ghz, 8gb ram, 128gb SSD. I am very curious to see if the 13" 128gb SSD performs any better than the 11" 128gb, but I doubt it. The MBA probably wont be here till around June 21-25th, but once I get it, I will be running very extensive tests and benchmarks including: (Windows 8)

3Dmark06 Pro
3Dmark11 Pro
SSD performace
Diablo 3
Skyrim
Oblivion
Tomb Raider
Bioshock Infinite
Crysis 1
*GW2
*Will attempt to run Dota 2

Quote me with which of those games you would like to see at which settings/resolution/AA, and I will include them in my next reply!

Just for fun comparison, I will probably include the results of a 15" 2.66 c2d MBP /w 9600GT along with some of them.
*updated for more games
 
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No. There are video comparisons on here between the drives in the 11 and 13" models showing the 128gb drives in the 13 at 700/700.

The 128gb in the 11" is slower on the write, but the 256/512 in the 11s have the same write speeds as all 3 drive sizes in the 13.

Ahh ok my mistake.
 
I just ordered my new MBA, 13" 1.7ghz, 8gb ram, 128gb SSD. I am very curious to see if the 13" 128gb SSD performs any better than the 11" 128gb, but I doubt it. The MBA probably wont be here till around June 25th, but once I get it, I will be running very extensive tests and benchmarks including: (Windows 8)

3Dmark06 Pro
3Dmark11 Pro
SSD performace
Diablo 3
Skyrim
Oblivion
Tomb Raider
Bioshock Infinite
Crysis 1

Quote me with which of those games you would like to see at which settings/resolution/AA, and I will include them in my next reply!

Just for fun comparison, I will probably include the results of a 15" 2.66 c2d MBP /w 9600GT along with some of them.

dota 2 1080p - pmuch will decide if i buy mba or not :p
 
I would do some benchmarks if only windows 7 would install!!!.

I've tried over and over again but it always gets stuck at expanding windows files - 64%

any ideas on how to fix this?
 
I just ordered my new MBA, 13" 1.7ghz, 8gb ram, 128gb SSD. I am very curious to see if the 13" 128gb SSD performs any better than the 11" 128gb, but I doubt it. The MBA probably wont be here till around June 25th, but once I get it, I will be running very extensive tests and benchmarks including: (Windows 8)

3Dmark06 Pro
3Dmark11 Pro
SSD performace
Diablo 3
Skyrim
Oblivion
Tomb Raider
Bioshock Infinite
Crysis 1
*GW2
*Will attempt to run Dota 2

Quote me with which of those games you would like to see at which settings/resolution/AA, and I will include them in my next reply!

Just for fun comparison, I will probably include the results of a 15" 2.66 c2d MBP /w 9600GT along with some of them.
*updated for more games
how about world of tanks or tera rising? is that too much lol :)
 
This confirms the i7 is a very nice boost for gaming

LTM's Cinebench of the i5 is only FIVE less fps than the i7. I wouldn't call that a huge gain. Will you actually notice the difference between 21 and 26 fps?

http://www.laptopmag.com/apple-macbook-air-13-inch-2013.aspx
 
LTM's Cinebench of the i5 is only FIVE less fps than the i7. I wouldn't call that a huge gain. Will you actually notice the difference between 21 and 26 fps?

http://www.laptopmag.com/apple-macbook-air-13-inch-2013.aspx

You shouldn't have chosen 21 and 26 to illustrate that point haha, because the human brain sees around 24 fps, so between those specific numbers we do notice a difference.

But between 17-22 or 30-35? No difference really.



By the way guys, don't enable in game vsync under Windows, install the latest drivers and force vsync via the control panel, much less of a performance hit. Ditto filtering.
 
Barefeat's Cinebench on his i7 was 24.9fps. So that's only a 3.9fps difference from LTM's i5 Cinebench.

You're right, and most games will run *at least* above what our eyes can perceive anyway. So the difference between say 32 and 35.9fps will be unnoticable.
 
Barefeat's Cinebench on his i7 was 24.9fps. So that's only a 3.9fps difference from LTM's i5 Cinebench.

You're right, and most games will run *at least* above what our eyes can perceive anyway. So the difference between say 32 and 35.9fps will be unnoticable.

Also, pretty sure you could overclock the i5 to achieve even more than an additional 3.9fps if you really wanted to.

Drivers will also improve over time, the current ones are likely to be very early.

Overall I'm happy, I feel like with this MBA we can just about have our cake and eat it in terms of ultrabook portability and gaming, it's a bit surreal considering the last time I gamed was on C2D era MacBook Pros which were 15" heavy things with constantly disappointing game performance imo... This won't last for long though, with a new console generation about to kick off, in 12 months time we won't be able to run jack ****, but what's new.. Such is life gaming on laptops.
 
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