The iPhone plays h.264 YouTube.
The MBA plays Flash YouTube. It is Adobe's fault that Flash is badly optimised for OSX.
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MacBook Air SMC Update 1.0
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The MBA plays Flash YouTube. It is Adobe's fault that Flash is badly optimised for OSX.
Still my MBA could not even play a quicktime h.264 file prepared for the iphone without overheating using the QT player.
I can't understand why everyone is fixated on youtube. Those of use with bad MBA's can't even get them to play iTunes and read email without overheating.
It's NOT JUST FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never go to YouTube. I don't care about YouTube. I just want a freaking computer that is as quiet as my HP DV2000 and does Leopard (oh, and is cool and sexy).
Ok... you have me beat, I've only got 21 years. But once again you compare devices that are completely different from an engineering stand point (Dell laptop, MBA, iPhone). You seriously have a lack of understanding in thermal dynamics if you think that a differential in size between the two laptops does not dramatically impact airflow. On top of that the CPU (and other components) are not the same, please do your research before posting back with "they use the same xyz". I'll just step off this thread and let you claim god like status and superior knowledge.
Or...
Or we could just have a civil discussion on how we get a quiet MBA which is what everyone wants, yourself included I'm sure.
There really is no reason to make things personal (e.g. keep your day job). I'm sure we both have a lot of knowledge on the subject and could educate each other or have an interesting discussion at least.
Peace?
Or we could just have a civil discussion on how we get a quiet MBA which is what everyone wants, yourself included I'm sure.
There really is no reason to make things personal (e.g. keep your day job). I'm sure we both have a lot of knowledge on the subject and could educate each other or have an interesting discussion at least.
Peace?
No Discussion Necessary
It's a thread full of people who returned their hugely expensive computers. This is not an isolated incident for Apple, either. The current iMac design has been plagued with heating problems, all the MacBook models initially had heating problems.
It's quite blatantly clear that, at this particular point in Apple's fantastic history, they are building and selling sh*t on a regular basis. The iPhone hardware is obviously fantastic, though the software/locking situation is laughable for now. The Mac Pro is a beast, but at a beastly price. The Mini is a cool idea if not spectacularly priced. *Everything else Apple is selling was broken on release*.
That's a truly horrible recent record. The obsession with building *everything* out of laptop parts, even desktops, is a truly freakish design mistake that literally (see posts above) cripples Apple hardware. Making things "thinner" is actually *quite easy* if they don't need to function. I'll sell you a broken laptop that's the size of a penny - because it *is* a penny.
People can blame Adobe, OS X, fan firmware, whatever. Apple still sold you a hugely expensive computer which doesn't work.
Apple has lost the spirit of creativity which inspired the last (lamp-style) iMac, the Cube, the Bondi Blue G3 Power Mac, and all the other innovative, beautiful hardware innovations. "Thin" is not beautiful. Black and silver is not beautiful. Everything Apple makes now looks like a Dell except the Mini.
And most of it doesn't work, or didn't work when it was released.
Time to split the company - the iPod and iPhone division can be run by jackass Jobs, the computer division can be run by someone with some design aesthetics and an engineer who can actually do thermodynamics.
It's a thread full of people who returned their hugely expensive computers. This is not an isolated incident for Apple, either. The current iMac design has been plagued with heating problems, all the MacBook models initially had heating problems.
It's quite blatantly clear that, at this particular point in Apple's fantastic history, they are building and selling sh*t on a regular basis. The iPhone hardware is obviously fantastic, though the software/locking situation is laughable for now. The Mac Pro is a beast, but at a beastly price. The Mini is a cool idea if not spectacularly priced. *Everything else Apple is selling was broken on release*.
That's a truly horrible recent record. The obsession with building *everything* out of laptop parts, even desktops, is a truly freakish design mistake that literally (see posts above) cripples Apple hardware. Making things "thinner" is actually *quite easy* if they don't need to function. I'll sell you a broken laptop that's the size of a penny - because it *is* a penny.
People can blame Adobe, OS X, fan firmware, whatever. Apple still sold you a hugely expensive computer which doesn't work.
Apple has lost the spirit of creativity which inspired the last (lamp-style) iMac, the Cube, the Bondi Blue G3 Power Mac, and all the other innovative, beautiful hardware innovations. "Thin" is not beautiful. Black and silver is not beautiful. Everything Apple makes now looks like a Dell except the Mini.
And most of it doesn't work, or didn't work when it was released.
Time to split the company - the iPod and iPhone division can be run by jackass Jobs, the computer division can be run by someone with some design aesthetics and an engineer who can actually do thermodynamics.
Cooling in general
While I would not go so far as to say as the poster above did that apple is putting out crap, I do think that actually Leopard may play a part in all of this.
My MBA in its first month or so would kick the fan into high gear now and then, especially with video related app's. I haven't had a lot of time/usage to notice since the SMC update.
BUT, on the other hand, after upgrading to Leopard last year my Mac Mini has had much harder fan usage than with Tiger doing the exact same tasks. As you can see it is a set top unit, so it plays DVDs, movies from files, music and occasional web surfing. However, where the fan didn't used to kick in at all, now it goes on high with regularity. Perhaps it is something with integrated graphics or whatever. The mini is not a core 2 duo newer model but does have 2GB RAM (a refurb gift) and never had any noticeable fan usage under OS 10.4.x.
While I would not go so far as to say as the poster above did that apple is putting out crap, I do think that actually Leopard may play a part in all of this.
My MBA in its first month or so would kick the fan into high gear now and then, especially with video related app's. I haven't had a lot of time/usage to notice since the SMC update.
BUT, on the other hand, after upgrading to Leopard last year my Mac Mini has had much harder fan usage than with Tiger doing the exact same tasks. As you can see it is a set top unit, so it plays DVDs, movies from files, music and occasional web surfing. However, where the fan didn't used to kick in at all, now it goes on high with regularity. Perhaps it is something with integrated graphics or whatever. The mini is not a core 2 duo newer model but does have 2GB RAM (a refurb gift) and never had any noticeable fan usage under OS 10.4.x.