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I am looking to swap my 2014 MacBook Pro with a new Mac and a little hot on one of the MacBook Pros 16, but probably holding out until I see, if there is a MacBook Air 15.
In the same boat. We have a 2015 MBP and we specced it to 16GB of RAM and it's lasted us up until about this year. If I'm going to purchasing another Mac, I want as much RAM as possible and 24GB on a MBA just doesn't seem like nearly enough when I could get 16GB almost 10 years ago...
 
As someone who just bought the M4 MBP for $1474 yesterday, I have no idea why you'd go with a MBA unless you were good with 256gb of storage.

ALWAYS get the Pro.

Display and speakers are far superior on MBPs.

Nice tries, but no cigar! Hyperbole and sweeping generalizations usually fail and lose out…

For many, the lack of PWM is a good reason, indeed, that makes it a very good idea to go for the MBA. So, it's definitely not “always” get the Pro. Displays on the MBP are not “far superior” to those who are bothered by PWM.

Besides “far superior” is quite different from merely “superior”! Or from ”ultra superior” or “ultra pro Max superior”! 😀
 
ALWAYS get the Pro. It's the only Apple computer with actually good value. Get an older one if you're budget-conscious; 14" M1 or something.

The difference between atrociously slow low-res panel of MB Air and 120 Hz mini-LED of MB Pros is stark; everything else does not matter, including weight, ports or whatever.
The fact that people see the Air as a low-end MBP is a horrible mistake. What MBP should I buy if my eyes need at least a 15’’ display and I’m always travelling? Should I carry 2.1kg with me? Come on! What kind of “higher standard” is the heavy 16’’ MBP when you need to use it on the go?

Apple is to blame here, because the Air was expensive when it was introduced (the low end at that time was the plain “MacBook”), but they decided to remove the MacBook and make the Air cheaper. That was bad, because cheaper means it cannot innovate in weight anymore (in fact the Air keeps the same weight it had 15 years ago, while the rest of the industry has innovated with lighter laptops that are expensive and not perceived as “low end” by the public).

I would like that the plain MacBook was reintroduced, moving the Air back into the prosumer zone that it should have never left, and innovating with it by making it lighter and lighter. I don’t want thin, Apple, I hate that trend. I want ultralight. If thin is a side effect of being light, that’s fine, but the goal is the weight, not the thickness.

Edit: If there was a 15’’ Air with a weight of 1.2kg at >$3000 I’d order it just now. The problem is that the 15’’ Air, while very cheap, weights 1.51kg, which is almost the same as the 1.6kg of a 15’’ MBP of 2018 (modern 16’’ MBPs are 2.1kg, but that’s another story). An Air that has the same weight as an older MBP of the same size is not an Air. But that’s the consequence of marketing it as low end rather that an innovating product.
 
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Apple recently updated the MacBook Pro with the M4 series of chips and a series of other upgrades including a 12MP camera, a nano-texture display option, and Thunderbolt 5 connectivity. The new machines follow updated MacBook Air models with the M3 chip that were released earlier in 2024, so how do the latest models compare?

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Despite now being similar in appearance, the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro are very different devices, so should you consider purchasing the 13- or 15-inch MacBook Air, which start at $999, to save money, or do you need one of the higher-end 14- or 16-inch MacBook Pro models, which cost at least $600 more? Our guide helps to answer the question of how to decide which of these two popular laptops is best for you.

MacBook AirMacBook Pro
M2: 13.6-inch display
M3: 13.6- or 15.3-inch display
14.2- or 16.2-inch display
LCD Liquid Retina displayMini-LED Liquid Retina XDR display
60hz refresh rateProMotion for refresh rates up to 120Hz
Up to 500 nits brightnessUp to 1,000 nits brightness and 1,600 nits peak HDR brightness
Nano-texture display option
1080p FaceTime HD camera12MP Center Stage camera with support for Desk View
Apple M2 or M3 chipApple M4, M4 Pro, or M4 Max chip
M2: Enhanced 5nm node (N5P) based on A15 Bionic chip from iPhone 13 (2021)
M3: 3nm node (N3B) based on A17 Pro chip from iPhone 15 Pro (2023)
3nm node (N3E) based on A18 chip from iPhone 16 (2024)
M2: 3.49 GHz CPU clock speed
M3: 4.05 GHz CPU clock speed
M4: 4.4 GHz CPU clock speed
M4 Pro and M4 Max: 4.5 GHz CPU clock speed
8-core CPU with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency coresM4: 10 CPU cores with 4 performance and 6 efficiency cores
M4 Pro: Up to 14 CPU cores with 10 performance and 4 efficiency cores
M4 Max: Up to 16 CPU cores with 12 performance and 4 efficiency cores
Up to 10-core GPUM4: 10-core GPU
M4 Pro: Up to 20-core GPU
M4 Max: Up to 40-core GPU
Updated GPU architectureUpdated GPU architecture with improved efficiency
M2: 16-core Neural Engine, 15.8 trillion operations per second
M3: 16-core Neural Engine, 18 trillion operations per second
16-core Neural Engine, 38 trillion operations per second
16GB or 24GB unified memoryM4: 16GB, 24GB, or 32GB unified memory
M4 Pro: 24GB or 48GB unified memory
M4 Max: 36GB, 48GB, 64GB, or 128GB unified memory
LPDDR5 memoryLPDDR5X memory
100GB/s memory bandwidthM4: 120GB/s memory bandwidth
M4 Pro: 273GB/s memory bandwidth
M4 Max: 546GB/s memory bandwidth
Passive coolingActive cooling
High Power Mode on all M4 Pro and M4 Max models
M3 models only:
Dynamic Caching
Hardware-accelerated ray tracing
Hardware-accelerated mesh shading
Support for AV1 decode
Dynamic Caching
Hardware-accelerated ray tracing
Hardware-accelerated mesh shading
Support for AV1 decode
M2: Wi-Fi 6
M3: Wi-Fi 6E
Wi-Fi 6E
Two Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) portsM4: Three Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports
M4 Pro or M4 Max: Three Thunderbolt 5 (USB-C) ports
HDMI 2.1 port with support for multichannel audio output
SDXC card slot
13-Inch: Four-speaker sound system
15-Inch: Six-speaker sound system with force-canceling woofers
High-fidelity six-speaker sound system with force-cancelling woofers
Three-mic array with directional beamformingStudio-quality three-mic array with high signal-to-noise ratio and directional beamforming
M2: Support for one external display
M3: Support for up to two external displays when the lid is closed
M4 or M4 Pro: Support for two external displays
M4 Max: Support for up to four external displays
Dedicated display engine
256GB, 512GB, 1TB, or 2TB of storageM4: 512GB, 1TB, or 2TB storage
M4 Pro or M4 Max: 512GB, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB, or 8TB storage
13-Inch: 52.6-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
15-Inch: 66.5-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
14-Inch: 72.4-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
16-Inch: 100-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
18-hour battery lifeM4 14-Inch or M3 Pro 16-Inch: 24-hour battery life
M4 Pro 14-Inch: 22-hour battery life
M4 Max 14-Inch: 18-hour battery life
M4 Max 16-Inch: 21-hour battery life
67W, 96W, or 140W USB-C Power Adapter
Silver, Space Gray, Starlight, or Midnight color optionsSilver or Space Black color options
M2 13-Inch: Starts at $999
M3 13-Inch: Starts at $1,099
M3 15-Inch: Starts at $1,299
M4 14-Inch: Starts at $1,599
M4 Pro 14-Inch: Starts at $1,999
M4 Pro 16-Inch: Starts at $2,499
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Design

Both the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro share the same basic design with a flat top and rounded edges on the bottom, but they do have several minor details that differ. For example, while both MacBooks have displays with a "notch" at the top to facilitate the built-in webcam, the MacBook Pro's bezels are noticeably slimmer. The keyboard well of the high-end MacBook Pro is also all-black... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: MacBook Air vs. MacBook Pro Buyer's Guide: 30+ Differences Compared
Yawn....

Don’t care about 99%+ of this.

Give us the following (or at least options):
* A touch screen
* A built-in cell modem
* Built-in ethernet (10Gbps would be nice)
* Quality Keyboard
* Upgradable/replaceable Memory & Storage
* Long term support
 
Built-in ethernet card is crazy. And they keyboards are great on all the Apple Silicon models.

If they give it a touch screen, there should also be a way to flip around the screen into tablet mode to make it easier to draw on.

I’d rather they drastically lower the price of their RAM and SSD build-to-order options than make it user-upgradable. If they offered market rates on these, it wouldn’t be as important to be able to upgrade it myself. And the soldered-on stuff helps keep the laptop thin and light.
 
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