If you want an OLED MacOS device, buy an M4 iPad Pro, and use remote desktop software to use any old Mac. Done, for now.
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MacBook Air With OLED Display Reportedly Delayed
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Why not donate it to someone who could make full use of it? Must be all sorts of organizations and people who could benefit from it.
We're still rocking iPad Air 2's in our household for web browsing, news reading, email, ebook reading, spreadsheets, notes, astronomy programs, games, photography, etc.
They still work like a charm — smooth, responsive, and lots of fun. Still magical.
Agree 100% on the PWM issue.
As to OLED or mini-LED displays being better — that's clearly in the eye of the beholder. Definitely not for those who are sensitive to PWM. Also, many people don’t see the difference, or don't see it as vast, or just don't care. That’s hard for many who do to understand…
I care greatly about how things look, especially discriminating among photos and cameras or discerning minor differences among eyepieces and telescope images. However, I have no problem switching between a 2015 MBA and an M2 15” MBA. The displays are just fine. I concentrate on what I'm doing — not on display differences. Others obviously find display differences glaringly obvious, stark, and cannot adjust.
It really depends on what you're viewing, how sensitive you are, what your focus or main interests are, and whether you see or care about such differences.
(For some, it may be a matter of tech specs or having the latest, most modern display! That comment is NOT directed at anyone in this thread, but is a reality in the broader tech world and often mentioned here in MR.)
Windows has a thing called Presence Detection. Uses the camera (or can be linked to the presence of your phone but haven't used that yet). When I walk away from my laptop, there is a custom setting that will wait x-seconds then turn off the screen. When I am back in front of the laptop (you can set the distance also), the screen comes back on. There are all sorts of techniques Apple could use to mitigate screen burn in without spending years designing uber-expensive display technology that accomplishes the same thing whilst their customers go without.
Even during the "insanely great" Jobs years, the iBooks, MacBooks, and MacBook Airs used inferior displays compared to the MacBook Pros. You ever look at the 11" MacBook Air's screen with its massive bezels?
If it isn't Apple's going to look pretty stupid FINALLY bringing OLED to the MBA! 😂
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Yes, but buyers of such products perceived that it was about us- the customers- much more than about shareholders. No doubt Jobs wanted to make piles of profit too. Back then, the target margin was still a sky high 38-40% but either perception or good doses of reality gave buyers a sense of being most important to Apple... instead of shareholders.
Maybe that was just another dazzle of the old RDF and it wasn't that way at all... but notice how fondly so many of us look back to those days vs. now. Even 5+ years ago, I was pretty much an Apple-and-only-Apple guy... not even considering things that Apple sold available from competitors. Now, I feel more jaded, seeing far too many decisions made that seem to be only for shareholders at customer expense... like RAM & storage now only able to be purchased from ONE source, priced at 3X-5X market... and all you'll ever need must be purchased up front.
Yes, there's always been an Apple Premium perception- including under Jobs too- but it was or perhaps just seemed so less obvious in those days and now it's right in our faces. So much goodwill built up throughout my first 15 or so years with Apple has been eroded in the last 5-8 or so years over decisions that seem entirely about Wall Street.
Maybe that was just another dazzle of the old RDF and it wasn't that way at all... but notice how fondly so many of us look back to those days vs. now. Even 5+ years ago, I was pretty much an Apple-and-only-Apple guy... not even considering things that Apple sold available from competitors. Now, I feel more jaded, seeing far too many decisions made that seem to be only for shareholders at customer expense... like RAM & storage now only able to be purchased from ONE source, priced at 3X-5X market... and all you'll ever need must be purchased up front.
Yes, there's always been an Apple Premium perception- including under Jobs too- but it was or perhaps just seemed so less obvious in those days and now it's right in our faces. So much goodwill built up throughout my first 15 or so years with Apple has been eroded in the last 5-8 or so years over decisions that seem entirely about Wall Street.
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This is Tim Cook’s Apple
It’s not a product driven company anymore.
It’s now a very carefully orchestrated financial engineering operation.
Jobs never put a Retina display on the MacBook Air, Tim Cook did.
Back in the day of the 11" MacBook Air, it could be opened in the airline economy section on the "table" even if the seat in front reclined. 13" and larger laptops can be a challenge in those same seats today as they are even closer together than before (got to add one more row of seats you know in the same plane).
Thus I have the M4 11" iPad (2TB & cellular) with Apple keyboard and that works in these tight seats. I also have a 16" M4 Max MacBook Pro (nano, 128GB Ram and 8TB SSD) to use on the desk at the hotel once I get there.
Better equipment is a better investment for me than a thousand or more dollars for a first class domestic ticket for a three to four hour flight.
There is always a promise of a better mouse trap tomorrow. So the consumer buys today's model and lives with it for an undetermined time frame. Three or four years out, there is a promise of a better mouse trap and the cycle repeats.....
Thus I have the M4 11" iPad (2TB & cellular) with Apple keyboard and that works in these tight seats. I also have a 16" M4 Max MacBook Pro (nano, 128GB Ram and 8TB SSD) to use on the desk at the hotel once I get there.
Better equipment is a better investment for me than a thousand or more dollars for a first class domestic ticket for a three to four hour flight.
There is always a promise of a better mouse trap tomorrow. So the consumer buys today's model and lives with it for an undetermined time frame. Three or four years out, there is a promise of a better mouse trap and the cycle repeats.....
Great! So i have to carry TWO devices around with 2 sets of gear? How does that work sitting on a plane using my iPad Pro OLED to remote desktop into my MBP I have with me? Do I ask the person next to me if I can use their tray?
Last I check the internet worksGreat! So i have to carry TWO devices around with 2 sets of gear? How does that work sitting on a plane using my iPad Pro OLED to remote desktop into my MBP I have with me? Do I ask the person next to me if I can use their tray?
The internet has nothing to do with my point. Reread.
That, screensavers and turning off the screen are great ways of mitigating burn in when you’re not doing anything, but aren’t effective if you’re actually actively using the same series of applications constantly for 8 hours at a time. Like you would when using the computer for actual work.
Productivity software is generally 90% static most of the time.
OLEDs are great for gaming and watching video. Not so great if you have a spreadsheet/IDE/email/etc application onscreen and actively working on it 9-5 5 days a week
There’s been some really big improvements with LCD and Apple have yet to take advantage of them. By 2029, OLED might be quite outdated.
Hahaha there is no really faster CPU and GPU on the BASE MODEL of the MacBook Pro (if you choose the upgraded cores model)
Why are you people scared about the notch, just put a black or dark wallpaper!
it feels like OLED is more trouble than it’s worth for computers. Make it an option for those that wants it, but don’t go all in on them for people who don’t.
Blah, blah blah…. Woe is Apple. They’re not quite rich enough, blather, blather, parp.
The reason OLED iPads aren’t selling is that they (and all of Apples output, that’s right, ALL) are way too expensive for what they are. Apple charged a premium for some time but the benefits were multiple. That’s not true anymore. They’ve been spinning their wheels on everything but ARM designs for many, many years now. If the innovation doesn’t go up, the prices come down, or both, then I can’t see myself still being on this bandwagon for much longer. That’s after using Apple computers since 1993.
The reason OLED iPads aren’t selling is that they (and all of Apples output, that’s right, ALL) are way too expensive for what they are. Apple charged a premium for some time but the benefits were multiple. That’s not true anymore. They’ve been spinning their wheels on everything but ARM designs for many, many years now. If the innovation doesn’t go up, the prices come down, or both, then I can’t see myself still being on this bandwagon for much longer. That’s after using Apple computers since 1993.
You’re both right. There’s nothing wrong with a good but cheap LCD for the vast majority of tasks on a computer. Cheap, colour accurate, cheap, low energy, cheap….I could go on but can’t bear to.