Macbook design question - card readers?

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  1. andylyon macrumors 6502a

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    Hi,

    Sorry if this has been brought up before..

    I use several PC laptops daily for home and work and these (and all other modern laptops) have a simple to use built in card reader. It's one of my favourite things about my Acer Laptop as I use it often.

    Does anyone know if Apple has ever considered incorporating one into thier Mac line? They cant be expensive to include, and before people say it, I know it's not too difficult to hook up a USB card reader but for convenience a built in one is much better. Especially as SD Cards etc are becoming more and more common. When I finally make the switch this is one thing I will definately miss from the PC world.

    Thoughts? (I'm not wanting to start an argument it's just my opinion..)

    AnDy
     
  2. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Macs will never have card readers. Steve and Jonathan don't like holes in their designs, and it would have to be cut into the unibody.

    Never, then, extends to their deaths, provided their apprentices do not share their design philosophies... but that's not likely.
     
  3. andylyon thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If that's the case what about the MacBook Pro's expansion card slot? Surely that has a hole? Correct me if i'm wrong.

    AnDy
     
  4. elppa macrumors 68040

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    The only way your probably get one is if someone makes a plugin for the express card slot, although I'm not sure if that is even technically feasible.

    It is a minor irritant, but if included would be at the expense of a thicker, less solid design. I'm not sure if you've seen a screen shot of the internals of the MacBook/MacBook Pro, but in both cases there is almost no extra internal space.

    The CD and HDD are on the left, the battery and ports go on the right. Ports are fairly limited in number, especially on the MacBook.
     
  5. Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040

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    I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who uses memory cards as a form of storage, other than the ones used in cameras. Even in cameras, people seem content to just plug their camera in.

    The only card reader I would find useful is a CF reader, and even then, I'm not prepared to have that big a hole in my computer just for a rare convenience.
     
  6. Aboo macrumors 6502a

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    Thats a covered hole LOL. The express card is present in the Macbook Pro because many professionals require express card expansion for stuff like eSATA, video/audio output, etc. That's why that it is available on the "Pro" machine. Like the previous poster said, Jobs and Ive, for as long as they are in that position, will not allow the incorporation of a card reader in the macbook notebooks.
     
  7. seb-opp macrumors 6502

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    Macs only come with what you need and nothing extra. There are many different memory card types out there, not one standard type. If the most common type was built into macbooks, there would still be lots of people who couldnt use it because their camera uses a different type of card. So a memory card slot is not something everyone can use, and so isnt built in.
     
  8. LAS.mac macrumors 6502

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    I do use SD cards transferring pictures from cameras At least once per week.
    And I do use much less my CD drive (I think I used it maybe 6-7 times since the beginning of this year...
    I think they should start including in all the digital cameras wifi to transfer pictures.
    I miss my SD slot much often in my iPhone, actually...
     
  9. andylyon thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Good point, but most of the people I know will take their SD card (or other) out of the camera and place it into the card reader slot, rather than pluggling the camera in via USB. Not everyone likes to carry an extra cable round but I see your point.

    And also, I did not know Jobs/Ive had stated that before so thats cleared a few things up.

    AnDy
     
  10. J&JPolangin macrumors 68030

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    ...get a netbook, they have card readers built in:eek:
     
  11. CashGap macrumors 6502

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    I use this one every day:

    Express Card Reader

    I'm grateful that there is a versatile Express card slot that can accommodate a cheap reader for whatever card standards emerge during the life of the laptop, rather than short-sightedly locking me in to whatever is the fleeting standard of the day.
     
  12. macrumorsMaster macrumors 6502

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    Lol, couldn't you say that about USB as well?

    A card reader is a much BETTER way than plugging the camera in with usb.
    1) faster, 2) doesn't use the battery in your camera.
     
  13. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Really, this is a core, important thing to understand about Apple. Apple doesn't do things, like them or not, because of market surveys (of the direct variety) or because of spec matching (they do a little of this) with competitors. They don't really care how many ports Dell or Compaq has, and they don't really care how many ports you think they should have.

    When they get their mind set on not doing something, they're very hard to sway. SD card slots are a good example of this. They've been around, they've gotten common, yes, some people who have them use them (particularly on netbooks, where even I use mine, but also outside of netbooks).

    Apple doesn't really care about that. They have a vision for a product and that's kind of the end of the story... neither the people who argue that these slots are unnecessary, that no one uses them, and that they are aesthetically problematic, nor the people who argue that they are de rigeur, that no serious computer maker does not use them, and that Apple computers are well nigh unusable without them, are really relevant at all.
     
  14. Burning Radio macrumors regular

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    I for one am happy that Apple doesn't mess with these. It looks messy on computers and honestly, I have no problem using USB or even buying a cheap reader. Just one of those things that I don't ever "miss". I have it on my HP desktop, but I only use it about twice a month.
     
  15. elppa macrumors 68040

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    Thanks for the link. Good to know the option is available. Out of interest, do you use your express card slot for anything else?

    That's probably why the poster you quoted brought a card reader, Lol.
     
  16. Richard1028 macrumors 68000

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    Do you know how long that would take with 15 megapixel pics? :D

    Keep the mac without a feaking card reader. Buy all the USB adapters you want for $10 and enjoy one less gizmo on your machine that can crap out.
     
  17. elppa macrumors 68040

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  19. MattZani macrumors 68030

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    Owch, you just got OWNED by Apple.

    All MacBook Pro's have an SD Card Reader Now.
     
  20. macbook yes macrumors 6502

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    And the 13in has one too because it is a pro.

    Nice job guys.
     
  21. NewMacbookPlz macrumors 68040

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    Only the 13 and 15. The 17 still has the ExpressCard34 slot, which I think is more useful than a dedicated SD-slot, but w/e.
     
  22. Doju macrumors 68000

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    Arrogance downed. LOL
     
  23. andylyon thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Haha love it, raised the question a few weeks back, in hope someone would agree, turns out Apple did. I sometiems love arrogant people who think they know it all!!

    AnDy
     
  24. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    Me thinks you may live to regret that statement... hope you have a sense of humour about it! ;)
     
  25. elppa macrumors 68040

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    You so should have stuck it on one of the prediction thread (citing “secret” sources). Would have looked a genius.

    Good job.

    And yes Apple is stubborn, but they are also not stupid enough to never admit they are wrong. They held out for a while of CD Burning as well. I think it is a worthy addition, particularly as most cameras (and phones) seemed to have settled on them.

    From a purely financial perspective it probably cheaper as well, which if I am being cynical, may have had a bearing in the decision.
     

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