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zelet said:
That is completely wrong. I have a core duo with 2GB of ram and 1080 is a little choppy.

Hmmm... my Core duo mini with 1GB of RAM plays back 1080 just fine (not choppy). I haven't tested a MacBook yet, but I would expect it to be equal or better.
 
Boy, that black MacBook really is ugly! (Maybe my opinion will change when I see it in real life, but I doubt it)

Why in the world would a Mac-lover be willing to pay a premium to get a laptop that looks far more like a generic PC than anything Apple has made since 1998?

If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano, it may be more acceptable but that matte black finish sure looks cheapo à la Dell... :eek:

Just my 2¢...
 
netmonkey said:
I've seen some comparison shots of the macbook vs the pb 12", but what I'd really like to see is a comparison between it and the ibook and the mbp 15" in all dimensions (width, height, depth) just to get a feel of the overall size. Too bad that there isn't an Apple store near here, and the resellers take weeks to get anything. :(

In my opinion, it's not tiny, but it is thinner than I was expecting. It's pretty hefty for its size, though. It weighs more than you'd think it would by looking at it. Obviously a pretty dense design.

More compact than the previous iBook, if that's any help. As tall as a 12-inch but nearly as wide as a 14-inch. Thinner than either.
 
alexf said:
Boy, that black MacBook really is ugly! (Maybe my opinion will change when I see it in real life, but I doubt it)

Why in the world would a Mac-lover be willing to pay a premium to get a laptop that looks far more like a generic PC than anything Apple has made since 1998?

If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano, it may be more acceptable but that matte black finish sure looks cheapo à la Dell... :eek:

Just my 2¢...

Looks better in person.
 
alexf said:
Boy, that black MacBook really is ugly! (Maybe my opinion will change when I see it in real life, but I doubt it)

Why in the world would a Mac-lover be willing to pay a premium to get a laptop that looks far more like a generic PC than anything Apple has made since 1998?

If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano, it may be more acceptable but that matte black finish sure looks cheapo à la Dell... :eek:

Just my 2¢...

I have the same initial reaction as you - after all the 3 year old rubbish work Dell laptop next to me is Matt Black.

But I'm going to reserve judgement until I see it for real.
 
prechrchet said:
I see that the MB uses integrated video instead of a dedicated video card. ?

They never put video cards in notebooks, Graphics is always integrated to the logic board. The real difference is that the Macbook uses shared system RAM and not a dedicated video RAM. Small point but you can't talk about how a design feature might impact performance unless you understand the design at some level of detail. The bottle neck in graphic processing will likely be RAM bandwidth and will impact applacations that use large texture maps basically 3d games
 
http://home.earthlink.net/~macbook/

At the above link you will find the photos I have posted of my MacBook showing:

- hard drive install
- speakers
- sleep light
- battery lights/rubber foot
- System Profiler report

Nothing too exciting, and I tried not to repeat what Apple stock photos already show. The ease of the hard drive install is a big plus in this MacBook.

Time for me to transfer my apps and stop reading these forums! Send me a PM if you have questions, as there is no way I can keep up with these threads to answer questions (be sure to check the above site as it may answer your questions!)
 
gloss said:
Looks better in person.

I certainly hope so, but I have looked at essentially every picture I could find so far online and they all look very unattractive.

Of course, this is a personal opinion - and I know some people are really into the black computer thing for some reason (looks much more "masculine" than white), but I still cannot get over the idea that a black matte computer seems to go against all of Apple's aesthetic principles. Plus, don't Mac users often like to let the world (or at least the people in the café) know that they have an Apple? If it weren't for the illuminated Apple logo on the back, from a distance this computer would "blend in" and look like every other boring business-oriented laptop out there.

The Mac that it most resembles is the Powerbook G3, but even that computer had interesting distinguishing curves that set it apart from other PCs, instead of the monotonous square shape of the MacBook. But - in any case - that computer design is now 8 years old!
 
i thought i would like the black cause i was pushing for one for so long, but it's kinda ugly because it makes it so cheap.

the keyboard buttons look so ghetto. it's like the buttons on my remote control. and why do they have space between them?

the glossy screen should be an option. i hate glossy - i had that on the sony vaio 13" laptop too and it had a glossy screen and I HATED IT!
 
All I want is......

I was hoping for a small laptop with the glowing keys. That's such a great feature. Frontrow is not imprortant to me. 15" is too big for me. I don't like all these reports that they're running hot just like the MBP. I just ditched a my gateway laptop, I have a G5 iMac, and I'd like one of my computers to have up to date chip technology in case they stop supporting it in 3-5 years. I'll have to drive an hour and a half to check them out in person. If they don't grab me, I may just take a leftover 12" i or Pbook from one of you junkies that needs the latest greatest thing. My girlfriend has a 13.5 widescreen compaq laptop that is absolutely beautiful. Overall, I'm kind of underwhelmed, that may change when I see it.
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
http://home.earthlink.net/~macbook/

At the above link you will find the photos I have posted of my MacBook showing:

- hard drive install
- speakers
- sleep light
- battery lights/rubber foot
- System Profiler report

Nothing too exciting, and I tried not to repeat what Apple stock photos already show. The ease of the hard drive install is a big plus in this MacBook.

Time for me to transfer my apps and stop reading these forums! Send me a PM if you have questions, as there is no way I can keep up with these threads to answer questions (be sure to check the above site as it may answer your questions!)

Thanks for sharing them, it's pretty interesting...I may just say one thing...the white MacBook looks WONDERFUL!

Now where do I get the money to replace my iBook G3? :rolleyes:
 
alexf said:
Boy, that black MacBook really is ugly! (Maybe my opinion will change when I see it in real life, but I doubt it)

Why in the world would a Mac-lover be willing to pay a premium to get a laptop that looks far more like a generic PC than anything Apple has made since 1998?

If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano, it may be more acceptable but that matte black finish sure looks cheapo à la Dell... :eek:

Just my 2¢...


I have a feeling that if the black MB were more like the nano, it would scratch much to easily even when used normally, much like the nano itself...



I could be wrong though.
 
alexf said:
Boy, that black MacBook really is ugly! (Maybe my opinion will change when I see it in real life, but I doubt it)

Why in the world would a Mac-lover be willing to pay a premium to get a laptop that looks far more like a generic PC than anything Apple has made since 1998?

If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano, it may be more acceptable but that matte black finish sure looks cheapo à la Dell... :eek:

Just my 2¢...

this is the first thought I had when I say the picture. Man, now I have to decide which one to choose, white, black or cheaper one, lOL
 
Great Job ImAlwaysRight! I Put Your Speaker Pics On Page 4 Post #95

ImAlwaysRight said:
http://home.earthlink.net/~macbook/

At the above link you will find the photos I have posted of my MacBook showing:

- hard drive install
- speakers
- sleep light
- battery lights/rubber foot
- System Profiler report

Nothing too exciting, and I tried not to repeat what Apple stock photos already show. The ease of the hard drive install is a big plus in this MacBook.

Time for me to transfer my apps and stop reading these forums! Send me a PM if you have questions, as there is no way I can keep up with these threads to answer questions (be sure to check the above site as it may answer your questions!)
Great Job ImAlwaysRight! I Put Your Speaker Pics On Page 4 Post #95. I cropped and web optimized them for my post on Speakers. Hope you don't mind. :)
 
Mikey Mike said:
Wasn't it rubbery, or am I thinking of something else?:confused:

Yeah, more or less. The Spectrum+ keys were harder to press and had less feedback. The QL keys, by comparison, were very light and had a definite (if inaudable) click-type feedback.

I could type really fast on the QL, it was much nicer than people expected. Still had some Sinclair idiosyncracies though, such as the lack of a "delete"/"backspace" key. (You had to use CTRL + Left arrow instead. Wierd.)
 
Agreed. However, I do wish that they had made the black model the "top model" without the price premium for only the color. For example, you could BTO the white model to match the spec, but you could only buy the Black MB fully loaded; in other words, the color denotes the high end spec but you aren't necessarily penalized for the color itself.

Rokem said:
"Meanwhile, Kodawarisan has already posted disassembly photos of the new MacBook."
I just dont get it whay would you take apart such a pretty thing...

Dangit i had my heart set on the 17 and then paiting it jet black, but these new mac are so pretty. I think they have the "Come Buy Me" shade of black...:rolleyes:
 
After reading all of the good and bad reviews on the "glossy" MacBook screen, I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and go with it. I'm no professional graphic designer, nor am I a graphic designer of any level. And I feel pretty confident that my uses for the computer will cope well with the computer's shiny screen.

I plan on spending 5% of my computer time outdoors (if even that much), and I think I'll manage the glare indoors. Hopefully.

Let's all pray that I'm not making an awful decision.
 
Personally I think the new iBooks suck. Normally I hold judgement on such things and let all the other more "professional" whiners do it for me. Not that I am whining of course, I'm simply saying I don't like them. I'm not saying Apple can burn in hell or anything either. This revision just doesn't cater to me this time.

The screen looks interesting, in both resolution and this new gloss finish and I like the new upgradability to the MB's.

The one thing that does tickle me is the weight, I was hoping for something lighter and I expect it in a new revision of a popular model. Then again I expected the original Alubooks' to be lighter after the TiBooks. I want a less heavier laptop basically. A newer 12" MacBook Pro to be precise if it were possible with all the trimmings. But I don't want a laptop with seperate optical drive and such nonsense. Its gotta be done the Apple way, all in one.

The good news for me is, I was going to keep this Ibook G4 anyway regardless of what happens (nobody believes me, my friends and all, they think I will sell it but thats because they all bloody want it!!!). This is light enough for the moment and I will wait until Apple does a laptop that fits with my idea of being "better". I'm in the market for a new mac (even a desktop mac) for my uni course this year but can hold out for another 16 months if need be. Who knows what then when the newer processors start rolling off the production line.
 
4 or 8 Gigs of memory?

What are the chances that this rev.A MacBook will take 2GB or 4GB memory modules when they're available in the future? I realize that Apple says max 2GB - but this limit may be based solely on current module availability (as was indeed the case with my revB bondi iMac back in the day).

Can the "bus" (sorry, but I'm definitely a non-techie) - or whatever determines memory limits - accomodate more than 2 Gigs?

Ordered a white one yesterday :)
 
I don't think so. The processor word size (which is 32 bits) determines how much memory you can install. i.e. the Dual PowerMac is a 64-bit processor and can support 8GB (4GB for each 64bit Processor) the Quad can hold 16gb.

So I think the answer is no.

And the CoreDuo is not the same as a Dual Processor. Although the CoreDuo is two processors, they are working on the same chip, or something like that. I'm not 100% certain but it goes something like that.
 
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