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myke323 said:
hmmm... if that's the case, then the macbookpro is basically $1000 more for a 15" vs. 13" monitor... could just use that extra $1000 and get a 20" flat panel... don't know though, for things like web design/development and video editing i think the 13" might drive me nuts...

You can get a 24" Dell LCD for $650 with coupons now a days! You can get the 20" Dell LCD for under $400.
 
FearFactor47 said:
What are the capacities of the batteries? On the 14" iBook it is 4400mAh.
The battery says 55 Wh, which I assume would be 5500mAh. I remember my system profiler reported my battery as just under 5200 mAh.

CrackedButter said:
The one thing that does tickle me is the weight, I was hoping for something lighter
You seriously are complaining about a few ounces? :confused: Especially when you look at this comparison:

macbook-12compare.jpg
 
Core Trio said:
I have a feeling that if the black MB were more like the nano, it would scratch much to easily even when used normally, much like the nano itself...

I could be wrong though.

Yes, this was what I was thinking too... I have a feeling that Steve wanted to make the black glossy, but feared the backlash that happened with the nano, as glossy black would show scratches incredibly easily.

In any case, I still think they should have bitten the bullet and made them glossy, as they would be much more attractive and "Apple-like" - and would sell better. Again, to me the black MacBook looks like about the most boring, ugly, and PC-like laptop Apple has released in 8+ years.
 
iHateGates said:
I was hoping for a small laptop with the glowing keys. That's such a great feature. Frontrow is not imprortant to me. 15" is too big for me. I don't like all these reports that they're running hot just like the MBP. I just ditched a my gateway laptop, I have a G5 iMac, and I'd like one of my computers to have up to date chip technology in case they stop supporting it in 3-5 years. I'll have to drive an hour and a half to check them out in person. If they don't grab me, I may just take a leftover 12" i or Pbook from one of you junkies that needs the latest greatest thing. My girlfriend has a 13.5 widescreen compaq laptop that is absolutely beautiful. Overall, I'm kind of underwhelmed, that may change when I see it.

glowing key with black case might be a good combination, but only black seems dirty cheap as h(D)ell.
 
alexf said:
Yes, this was what I was thinking too... I have a feeling that Steve wanted to make the black glossy, but feared the backlash that happened with the nano, as glossy black would show scratches incredibly easily.

In any case, I still think they should have bitten the bullet and made them glossy, as they would be much more attractive and "Apple-like" - and would sell better. Again, to me the black MacBook looks like about the most boring, ugly, and PC-like laptop Apple has released in 8+ years.


Then again that could have created a new product much like the ipod did. MacBook socks! That would surely deter a class action suit
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
The battery says 55 Wh, which I assume would be 5500mAh. I remember my system profiler reported my battery as just under 5200 mAh.


You seriously are complaining about a few ounces? :confused: Especially when you look at this comparison:

macbook-12compare.jpg

While I like Apple's trend towards slimmer laptops, I agree with the poster who complained about the weight gain. My Powerbook G4 (12") is ~4.7lbs versus a claimed 5.2lbs for the new Macbook. It doesn't seem like much, but it's a step in the wrong direction.

With more efficient displays and CPUs, you'd expect weight loss to be one of the benefits.
 
CrackedButter said:
Personally I think the new iBooks suck. Normally I hold judgement on such things and let all the other more "professional" whiners do it for me. Not that I am whining of course, I'm simply saying I don't like them. I'm not saying Apple can burn in hell or anything either. This revision just doesn't cater to me this time.

The screen looks interesting, in both resolution and this new gloss finish and I like the new upgradability to the MB's.

The one thing that does tickle me is the weight, I was hoping for something lighter and I expect it in a new revision of a popular model. Then again I expected the original Alubooks' to be lighter after the TiBooks. I want a less heavier laptop basically. A newer 12" MacBook Pro to be precise if it were possible with all the trimmings. But I don't want a laptop with seperate optical drive and such nonsense. Its gotta be done the Apple way, all in one.

The good news for me is, I was going to keep this Ibook G4 anyway regardless of what happens (nobody believes me, my friends and all, they think I will sell it but thats because they all bloody want it!!!). This is light enough for the moment and I will wait until Apple does a laptop that fits with my idea of being "better". I'm in the market for a new mac (even a desktop mac) for my uni course this year but can hold out for another 16 months if need be. Who knows what then when the newer processors start rolling off the production line.

I agree, although I would not go quite so far as to say that they downright "suck."

However, those of us that were expecting something revolutionary in terms of size and weight have been sorely disappointed. Why, for instance, must they have a thick border around the screen - which adds more width and height - instead of a thin one like the MacBook Pros?

Yes, yes, I know some may answer that it is because this is a "consumer" notebook and it would have been more expensive to fit everything into a smaller enclosure, but nonetheless, this is what many were expecting, especially as laptops are supposed to get smaller with each release, and not stay the same size (it has been 5 years since the release of the previous 12" iBook design, and these are about the same size and weight proportional to the screen size).

The rumors were all about a "radical form factor redesign," but the appearance, size, and weight of these new iBooks - er, MacBooks, that is - is nothing radical nor revolutionary.

In short: they could have been worse, but nonetheless this highly anticipated release leaves me disappointed.
 
My observations (from the photos):

1. The battery is HUGE! It looks to be almost twice the size of the old iBook battery, and yet only 2.5 hours of DVD playback (my iBook used to get about 2 hours). The Core Duo and the brighter, bigger monitor is sucking down a lot of juice.

2. I'm amazed at how compact the motherboard is. If you take out the optical drive, use a smaller battery, and a 1.8" HDD, you'd get a super compact ultraportable.

3. I'm a little disappointed by the overall dimensions of the MacBooks. Thinner is nice, but it looks to be quite a bit winder than the old. I'm starting to agree about the need for an ultraportable.
 
alexf said:
If it were shiny black, like an iPod nano....

That's what I was thinking, too -- I'd love to have seen a shiny black MacBook -- I'm disappointed!

Hey, maybe they'll come out with a subnotebook, say a two-pound 10-incher in shiny black or shiny white to match the iPods! I'd snap one of those up in a heartbeat.
 
LSS said:
Does MacBook have the two-fingers-on-the-trackpad for right-click option as the 17" MBP has?

That sounds like an excellent option. If it's possible to implement third party software for the older 'books, I'd love to see it done.
 
bommai said:
You can get a 24" Dell LCD for $650 with coupons now a days! You can get the 20" Dell LCD for under $400.
ya i knew they weren't 1,000 but just used that figure coz that was the saving bewtween the 2 models... so i should ad that you would have quite a bit leftover to buy more toys...

also, are the dell LCDs as nice as the apple ones? i have an apple one at work and its amazing...
 
Glossy, No Thanks!

Just returned from the Apple Store to look at the new MacBooks and was not impressed by the glossy displays. The reflection drove me nuts after about one minute. The black MacBook looks the coolest but is not worth an extra $200. Time will tell if Apple reconsiders their strategy on both of these decisions.
 
Clix Pix said:
Hey, maybe they'll come out with a subnotebook, say a two-pound 10-incher in shiny black or shiny white to match the iPods! I'd snap one of those up in a heartbeat.

Yes, I would buy one in an instant also (financial situation permitting)! However, I doubt it will happen. :(

The size and weight of the new MacBooks is really disappointing.
 
ChrashM said:
Just returned from the Apple Store to look at the new MacBooks and was not impressed by the glossy displays. The reflection drove me nuts after about one minute. The black MacBook looks the coolest but is not worth an extra $200. Time will tell if Apple reconsiders their strategy on both of these decisions.

In my use so far the glossy display isn't bad at all. Assuming you're looking at the screen straight on and there's not an inordinate amount of bright lighting, it's rather nice.

I suppose opinions will vary depending on people's native environments.
 
Can anyone comment on the build quality of the macbook compared to the ibook and the powerbook. One of my biggest gripes about the ibook was the poor build quality.
 
skywalker said:
As the proud owner of a new MacBook (base model), I can say with authority that the screen is amazing, and the keyboard is very nice as well. I'll probably end up upgrading the hard drive at some point, once a 100GB or 120GB drops in price and I'm able to afford it.

I did want to know, what exactly is the advantage of paired vs unpaired RAM in these MacBooks? I can obviously upgrade the RAM cheaper with just one 1GB stick, but if the advantage is enough, I may wait and get two sticks.

jW

How does the screen perform in high light situation, like when the sun is shining through the window?
 
Thermal Paste

Can anyone tell from Kodiwarisan's pictures if they're finally putting the paste on correctly?
 
swindmill said:
Can anyone comment on the build quality of the macbook compared to the ibook and the powerbook. One of my biggest gripes about the ibook was the poor build quality.

They're being built by Asus, who has a reputation for making bullet-proof machines. Mine seems very sturdy. I'm becoming very fond of the keyboard, as unorthodox as it looks.
 
Chundles said:
Nah, the GMA950 can do H.264 playback too. The Core Duo Mac mini handles 1080p perfectly according to Macworld, the Core Solo cannot. I would then assume that the even faster MacBook should handle 1080p with aplomb.
Thank you, finally someone who knows something.
You are all integratedist. Integrated Graphics are just that, a graphics chipset on the motherboard intead of stuck on a slot.
Technically there is nothing stopping them from being just as good as a 7900gt. However, no chipset is that good. They are made to be cheap and "Good enough"
That said, the GMA950 is a GOOD chipset!!! I'd say its comparable to a Nvidia 6600, except that its only got 64 megabytes of memory (shared)
The core* signature is like centrino, meaning that it has requirements.
One of them is the RAM, which is DDR2-667. Its FAST. Way faster than what does come on a 6600 card.
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/
before you knock it, research.
 
I found this pict of a black MacBook. Look at the greasy-looking track pad. Don't know if that is typical of the black model, or that user was just eating french fries or something.

blackkeyboard7rf.jpg



Garissimo said:
While I like Apple's trend towards slimmer laptops, I agree with the poster who complained about the weight gain. My Powerbook G4 (12") is ~4.7lbs versus a claimed 5.2lbs for the new Macbook. It doesn't seem like much, but it's a step in the wrong direction.

With more efficient displays and CPUs, you'd expect weight loss to be one of the benefits.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the 17" MBP weighs more than any of these laptops. And no Radeon X1800 in the MacBook? And why not price this obviously consumer laptop at $899? Apple could have done that. Think of all the sales they are missing out on ... :confused: :rolleyes:
 
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