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MacBook, MacBook Pro To See Merom Upgrade Next Month?

BigheadEdd said:
Damn all this waiting :( I want one now!!!
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Pfft, I know, this really sucks. I want to have fun with it BEFORE school starts.

The 29th seems like a good day for a Merom MacBook pro, it's more then 2 weeks pass of WWDC and 2 Weeks untill Paris.
 
Shasta said:
Damn, and I just got my new MacBook yesterday

Plus if my MacBook gets lonely and depressed he can talk to my 1st gen PowerMac G5
Shasta
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I really doubt that the MacBook will be updated that quickly. It wouldn't make much sense, but then again we are talking Apple.

And, don't worry. My MacBook and 1st-gen G5 get along just fine. :D
 
Eh... yeah. Of course I have a MacBook on the way! :( Not a huge deal, but having a 64 bit processor would be nice! But then, my company is buying it for me, so I guess it doesn't really matter in the end anyway. ;)
 
question: are the CPUs in the macbook socketed or soldered?

could i buy my own Core 2 Duo chip and drop it in there at a later date?

i don't really care about the mhz increase, but the Core 2 Duo line does seem to be a little cooler at idle...
 
Collin973 said:
Wait a second...if they release it in Paris, won't it no longer qualify for the free ipod?!? :(
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If the Keynote is on the first day of the Expo that would be the 12th.

The iPod offere ends on the 16th, the end of the Paris Expo.

You might have to place your order online as I expect they wouldn't be in stores by then, but you [we] should be all set.
 
I don't think it is a bad idea for Apple to put Merom in the MacBooks for this reason...

Apple is being more directly compared to Dell and such these days since they are running Intel chips. And the PC makers are going to put those processors in their computers as soon as they can. If Apple doesn't want to look like they are behind in the times, they have to put these processors in also.

It makes for a little smaller of a gap between the consumer and pro (remember there is still the video card holding steady) but I think overall it will be better because we will get the updates sooner rather than later...


In all reality however, I don't actually know.

Carry on...
 
glitch44 said:
question: are the CPUs in the macbook socketed or soldered?

could i buy my own Core 2 Duo chip and drop it in there at a later date?

i don't really care about the mhz increase, but the Core 2 Duo line does seem to be a little cooler at idle...
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MacBook and MacBook Pro are soldered. So no, you can't change it.

The iMac and MacMini are socketed.
 
esaleris said:
I think to the end user, the difference between Yonah and Merom is minimal.

From a supply chain perspective, it is far easier to manage one SKU than multiple ones. You immediately half the number of CPUs that you need to stock by moving all mobile to Merom. And give the fact that some speculate the price between the two CPUs are minimal, and that Apple is a premium brand, it wouldn't be a far reach to see that it is quite advantageous for them to move onto better hardware and keep the price as is.
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Good point.

It's a speed bump, if anything. Not something Apple typically makes a big fuss about, despite the fact we know it's two different cores. Yonah -> Merom is a far smaller ordeal than Merom -> Santa Rosa.
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Well actually merom will still be used when santa rosa chipsets come out (santa rosa is the chipset, merom the chip that it supports). I get what you're saying though.
 
Hopefully they'll release the MacBook pros before Sept. 16 so I can still get my free iPod nano, but knowing Apple, they always wait until the end if their major promotion to introduce new stuff... Perhaps they'll update the MBP before then and the iPods after the 16th. I don't really need the latest iPod out there.

I'm holding off for the new MBP because from what I've seen, the current ones still have issues. It was Apple's first Mac to go to Intel, and although they've made some changes, it's still "first generation". I'm hoping the next revision will have more than just a processor upgrade.

That said, I don't see the MacBooks going with the Core 2 Duo until sometime next year. The Core Duo is a fine chip, and will handle pretty much anything a MacBook owner would need, and it would make the more expensive MacBook Pro seem more appealing.
 
Well, I bought my iMac Core Duo this Wednesday. Yes, AFTER Tuesday. I kinda needed it since I've waited since June for a new Mac. I'd be computerless otherwise. No worries, my boss wants first dibs on buying it off of me next year. :D
 
This is good news for me. I'm an advanced/expert user of winblows, and I've reinstalled XP for the last time! Too many things don't go as it should, and I shouldn't even have to reinstall the operating system every 6 blasted months! I'm planning on getting the high end mac laptop in about a year, but its good to know that progress is being made!
 
G4scott said:
I'm holding off for the new MBP because from what I've seen, the current ones still have issues. It was Apple's first Mac to go to Intel, and although they've made some changes, it's still "first generation". I'm hoping the next revision will have more than just a processor upgrade.
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The iMac was the first to go to intel.
 
G4scott said:
That said, I don't see the MacBooks going with the Core 2 Duo until sometime next year. The Core Duo is a fine chip, and will handle pretty much anything a MacBook owner would need, and it would make the more expensive MacBook Pro seem more appealing.
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I'm not sure Intel will be selling yonahs at that point. It's not really up to apple anymore more to do with the economics of dealing with Intel. Which is actually a good thing, things move quicker that way.
 
ChickenSwartz said:
MacBook and MacBook Pro are soldered. So no, you can't change it.

The iMac and MacMini are socketed.
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will there be a third party company that offers these upgrades to consumers?
 
Collin973 said:
Wait a second...if they release it in Paris, won't it no longer qualify for the free ipod?!? :(
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BINGO! :D

Well, due to my disappointment that they didn't release it at WWDC, I can't stand the waiting anymore so I've decided to go into suspended animation until they release the MBP in the next few weeks. Somebody make sure to wake me when its time to open up my wallet! :rolleyes:
 
Are there any benchmarks for the Core 2 Duo chips? What would we be getting from the upgrade?
 
Gatorman said:
BINGO! :D

Well, due to my disappointment that they didn't release it at WWDC, I can't stand the waiting anymore so I've decided to go into suspended animation until they release the MBP in the next few weeks. Somebody make sure to wake me when its time to open up my wallet! :rolleyes:
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Only if I get some of that opend wallet.
 
spicyapple said:
Quad Xeons in the MacBook Pro, pretty please. After all, it is Apple's professional notebook line.
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Yes, and the MacBook for $299. After all, it is Apple's entry level notebook line.
 
esaleris said:
I think to the end user, the difference between Yonah and Merom is minimal.
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It's a speed bump, if anything.
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Quite incorrect actually. The dfifference is not minimal and this isn't just a "speed bump". If you read up on the Yonah and Merom chip architectures, you'll see that that Merom has significant architectural improvements over Yonah, including a 4MB L2 cache and most notably 64-bit support over Yonah's 32-bit support. This is very significant since Jobs is pushing Leopard and its 64-bit goodness. :cool:
 
mashinhead said:
Well i know i can get the chip, but then don't i need a new motherboard too, and who/where would i get that put in?
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No, the same chipset is used for Merom at this stage (Santa Rosa won't be around until next year). I think a firmware update might be needed but possibly not. Those Core Solo Mac Minis look good to me for a makeover.
 
emotion said:
They are already available, these are standard PC parts now remember.

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=14564&GroupID=1674
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That's Conroe. Merom can be put into the current iMac/Mac Mini. If you're adventureous to open the machines up or getting a third party installation. Otherwise you're looking at an entire logic board replacement for the laptops. It's probably better just to wait and buy an entire new laptop.

dr_lha said:
There is no current Mac that this chip can "drop into", apart from maybe a Mac Pro, but going from a Woodcrest to a Conroe would be a downgrade in that case.

The Merom that should eventually go into the iMac, mini, MBP and MacBook are currently not on sale to the consumer.
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http://guides.macrumors.com/Merom

Read the Guide...
 
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