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I certainly won't be buying anymore butterfly keyboards from them. Considering they aren't made anymore.

I can be mad at Apple all I want, but they have the best keyboard on a laptop right now.

How many other brand laptops have you used to come to that conclusion?
 
Somehow I'm one of the few who had a butterfly MBP (Escape) who enjoyed it and didn't have any problems with it. Because of the constant reports of issues, in 2020 I traded it in for the M1 MacBook Air when it was released, and never looked back. No payout for me.
 
Somehow I'm one of the few who had a butterfly MBP (Escape) who enjoyed it and didn't have any problems with it. Because of the constant reports of issues, in 2020 I traded it in for the M1 MacBook Air when it was released, and never looked back. No payout for me.

I have MacBook 2016 and MacBook Air 2018 all uses butterfly keyboard. Maybe I don’t use them frequently or I mainly dock them, I don’t have problem with these keyboard.

The only problem I have is left shift key is little bit sticky.

But I never enjoyed typing on it. The key travel is way to shallow, it feels like I am typing on a sheet of glass
 
Literally what are you talking about. I've been buying Macs since the 90s and the Apple Silicon machines are by far the most rock solid reliable ones I've ever seen.
Macs are a totally different beast but iDevices are something else, if it wasn’t for applecare i wouldn’t had been SOL on numerous defectives iPhones, airpods and iPads.
 
Ah yes, been there done that, and it was a royal pain. I remember the arrogant apple employee in Scottsdale. She said “I can throw it away for you” because they don’t last forever. This is what happens when Apple uses customers as there post-production test crew. Eventually, I received compensation, but it forever changed my once held standard of Apple. 😐
 
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It does not apply to the UK.

In the UK, the trick is to make a claim under consumer law. If you have a well-documented case of a persistent fault that is not resolved by the retailer despite repeat attempts (such as the butterfly keyboard faults), you can claim for a full refund of the original purchase through the small claims court. It takes a bit of work but if your claim is legit, Apple will almost certainly just pay it rather than let it go to court.


(Note that consumer law claims are against the retailer, however, not the manufacturer)
Sorry for the thread hijack, but has Apple ever admitted to the 'flickering touch bar' issue?
I'm in the UK and my 2020 MacBook is basically unusable.
Happy to try the small claims court, but I'm not sure if they have ever admitted to a wide scale problem.
 
Class actions are usually a scam that only benefit the lawyers, but I'm hoping there's one of these for iPhone 14 Pro owners with lousy battery life. Can't believe how bad mine is.
Yes, the same time last year, my iPhone 14 Pro’s battery life had already gone down to 90% which eventually dropped to 85% when it was one year old. There’s definitely problems with the battery quality since it never happened to any of my previous iPhones, nor the iPhone 15 Pro.

My 15 is at 99% battery health now.
 
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Macs are a totally different beast but iDevices are something else, if it wasn’t for applecare i wouldn’t had been SOL on numerous defectives iPhones, airpods and iPads.
"Numerous defective" devices?? You're either very hard on your devices or you have extraordinarily bad luck.

Maybe I have extraordinarily good luck, but I literally can't remember a time in the past 10 years I've had to bring an iPhone or an iPad in for anything other than me dropping it and breaking the screen (and one time I thought something was wrong with the lightning port and it turned out to be pocket lint wedged in there). My AirPods Pro are too new to really judge, but my AirPods Max have been working brilliantly for 3+ years now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The last truly defective thing I had to bring in was a MacBook back in like 2010 or so that had a swollen battery. That was bad, and they did deal with it.
 
Sorry for the thread hijack, but has Apple ever admitted to the 'flickering touch bar' issue?
I'm in the UK and my 2020 MacBook is basically unusable.
Happy to try the small claims court, but I'm not sure if they have ever admitted to a wide scale problem.
Maybe you should try that small claims court just to see how it'd work out.😊

My 15" 2018 MBP has that butterfly keyboard, none of the keys have any faults. It is used at least 10-12 hours a day. The Touch Bar is doing well too. Maybe, I'm just lucky, or the factory in China did a good job.
 
"Numerous defective" devices?? You're either very hard on your devices or you have extraordinarily bad luck.

Maybe I have extraordinarily good luck, but I literally can't remember a time in the past 10 years I've had to bring an iPhone or an iPad in for anything other than me dropping it and breaking the screen (and one time I thought something was wrong with the lightning port and it turned out to be pocket lint wedged in there). My AirPods Pro are too new to really judge, but my AirPods Max have been working brilliantly for 3+ years now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The last truly defective thing I had to bring in was a MacBook back in like 2010 or so that had a swollen battery. That was bad, and they did deal with it.
Over the course of about 17 years, I had one MacBook Pro (2018) and one iPad Pro (2015) died. They just wouldn’t turn on, all of a sudden. The iPad was covered by insurance from the credit card but the MBP was not. It is still an expensive paper weight on my shelf now. I won’t be repairing it due to the cost (and that I already have all necessary files backed up).
 
Hook line and sinker to Apple eh?
I'm not sure what you want from me. You want me to divest from an entire ecosystem I've been in for decades and switch operating systems and hardware to options I find objectively far worse in many, many ways - all because I wasn't treated well as a consumer this one time?
 
I'm not sure what you want from me. You want me to divest from an entire ecosystem I've been in for decades and switch operating systems and hardware to options I find objectively far worse in many, many ways - all because I wasn't treated well as a consumer this one time?
You do what you want buddy, I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy of you complaining about it but still deciding to buy another £1000+ machine from Apple despite your last one being unusable
 
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