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Will there be a likely refresh in July like with past models? I'm going to buy one in April and it would suck if 2 months later they released a new version!

I think most likely refresh will be in Q4 with Tiger Lake. Who knows though, it's possible they'll do a minor cpu bump earlier, but even if there is intel doesn't have any great chips that would make that much of a difference.

Tiger Lake would get you:
  • wifi 6 (802.11ax)
  • av1 hardware decoding
  • intel xe graphics (2x iris performance) if you stay with integrated gpu
  • modest cpu bump (+5-7%?)
 
I'm pretty much hoping they don't too, but I won't be outright shocked if in march-may a cpu only refresh might come out.
 
They’d piss off a lot of 16” buyers though, myself included! :confused:


That's an issue for those buyers to deal with. New stuff comes out all the time. It would be insane for Apple to hold back on striking for competitive advantage (or even parity) for fear of annoying existing buyers.

I think most people understand that new stuff comes out regularly.
 
They’d piss off a lot of 16” buyers though, myself included! :confused:
Change and updates are constant - apple continues to improve their products. Why would an update in 2020 piss prior buyers off?
 
Hi, I'm italian, i would buy It, i have got the early 2011 MacBook Pro 15, i think it's better to wair for wifi 6 because i would keep the laptop for many years, would you?
 
A 120hz or 144hz retina with freesync would rock. 60hz is so 1990 now. ;-)

Sidebar, but I've never understood why 144Hz is a thing. Obviously 120 is a doubling of 60 which was a doubling of NTSC, but 144 doesn't divide into anything, and it's not that much faster than 120 (and by the time you hit 120 you're already suffering from diminishing returns on responsiveness compared to the jumps from two-digit refresh rates.)

Hi, I'm italian, i would buy It, i have got the early 2011 MacBook Pro 15, i think it's better to wair for wifi 6 because i would keep the laptop for many years, would you?

I don't think slightly slower WIFI is really what's going to limit the lifespan of your computer meaningfully.
 
It's not that crazy. Apple have done cpu bumps without other changes several times before.

Not (to the best of my knowledge off the top of my head) within 6 months of a previous release. I don't think any spec bumped 16" MBP will happen till Summer at the very earliest with the fall/winter being more likely.
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So again why would an early update piss you off and a summer update won't?

Not that i necessarily agree, but i understand why it would piss some off. A lot of people who bought the late 2019 16" MBP, had they known another 16" was coming within a short time span like early 2020, they would have just waited for that one. Where as if it's a full 6 months or more away, to the majority of people that's a long enough time where they won't feel burned by pulling the trigger on what at the time was the latest and greatest. It seems like 6 months is that sweet spot where any less than that between big product releases and people who bought the prior one feel burned and if the release is 6 months or more from the prior one than people feel like that's a proper release cycle where there's a good amount of time where the one they have is the new shiny one. At the end of the day though, that's all it is, people know tech continues to move and get better, but they don't want to feel like what they bought was made obsolete that quickly.
 
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