MacBook Pro 2013 model 32GB possible?

[leman]

However, I remember that because of the current BIOS (or firmware or whatever ...), they cannot be used in cMBP (or similar Macs that have exchangeable RAM bays), as to some message somewhere to find … (sorry, can't remember where I read that, apart from that I did indeed read it).

I think you mean this link: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=113461

To sum it up, the 8Gbit packages (which are necessary to build a 16Gbyte RAM module) are not currently supported by the Intel CPUs.

I guess the best option for me would be to sell it and save up for a Mac Pro 2014 Desktop.

Was afraid It would have to come to that. I really would rather upgrade my rMBP and pay the price

First of all, I have difficulty understanding why you need 32Gb of RAM (and why you even were looking for a laptop in the first place if you have such needs). Second, even if these new chips would work, an upgrade would be very cost prohibitive. The RAM modules alone are likely to cost over $200 each (and I am saying 'likely', because don't even appear to be in the stores yet), and an upgrade would be several hundred on top — with a high risk of frying the entire machine.

If you absolutely need 32GB RAM, then your only options are one of the quite rare laptops with 4 RAM slots or a desktop. If you need a Mac, a 27" iMac is the most cost-effective option.

 

[Anitramane]

That not true any more, see here.

However, I remember that because of the current BIOS (or firmware or whatever ...), they cannot be used in cMBP (or similar Macs that have exchangeable RAM bays), as to some message somewhere to find … (sorry, can't remember where I read that, apart from that I did indeed read it).


Found back that thread: Here.
Anyhow, this doesn't help the OP either.

Efi

 

[poematik13]

First of all, I have difficulty understanding why you need 32Gb of RAM (and why you even were looking for a laptop in the first place if you have such needs).

A lot of people in the video/media/photography creation and distribution fields need at least 16GB of ram to do stuff like editing, color correction, media management, etc. 32GB is ideal. Also to make ramdisks as scratch drives to edit high resolution clips off of.

And we need that ON THE FIELD or out and about or to take it to other people's houses/offices to work on- eg, a macbook pro which is the only machine that can do it well as windows laptops are large heavy plastic pieces of garbage with 10 minute lasting batteries.

Just because you only need 4GB of ram to watch netflix and read macrumors and type on Pages doesn't mean you can speak for the professionals that rely on macs

 

[MCAsan]

--- a macbook pro which is the only machine that can do it well as windows laptops are large heavy plastic pieces of garbage with 10 minute lasting batteries. s

So why not get an HP Envy or Dell Inspiron 17 7000 series and slap 32GB in them.

 

[dv310p3r]

So why not get an HP Envy or Dell Inspiron 17 7000 series and slap 32GB in them.

I swear, the guy is asking for something and all anyone can say is that he should get something else. I can't stand when I see these kind of answers.

He wants to know if he can have more RAM soldered onto the board. Instead of telling him to get a new computer try answering his question.

So, I'll try to answer as best I can...

I DON'T KNOW.

Wow, not that hard to say that you don't know something.

But I'd like to know. I have a 2014 Macbook Pro Retina, I also would love to know of a way to upgrade the RAM. YES YES I KNOW it's soldered. RELAX FLAMERS, I READ THE THREAD. Heck I've opened mine up and even installed one of the new 1tb drives in it. AND YES I SPENT $900 on it. Because I wanted to.

I posted my question about upgrading the drive from the stock 256gb to 1tb in a separate post and I got many of the "Why don't you just get another computer" answers. And I hated them, but every once and a while someone would look at my question and think about it, and then... OMG... answer it.

So to the OP (original poster), my best guess is that the boards can easily support 32gb. Apple however does have a planned obsolescence business model, so this laptop model is just a an evolution deeper into that practice.

So, when my laptop is a few years older, and I'm ready to get a new one, I'm going to find a way to solder 32gb into this bad boy. Then, if no one has done it (which I'm sure someone will have), I'll come back to this post and attach a link to the video how to for it.

If you find a how to sooner OP, please let me know. Best of luck.

 

[Count Blah]

I think we are being trolled.

Few PCA laptops have this ability. And he is looking to "just" have someone de-solder the existing RAM, then solder in new RAM, in VERY tight spaces, and simply expect it to work?

This cannot be a legit request. And if it is, it is a very uninformed one.

Much easier to buy the rare PC laptop that can support 32Gigs of RAM, and make a hackintosh, than to mod a rMBP.

 

[CoastalOR]

The OP has not been in the forum since Sep. 2014. Maybe they did move on to the 32 Gb PC laptop.

 

[dv310p3r]

I think we are being trolled.

Few PCA laptops have this ability. And he is looking to "just" have someone de-solder the existing RAM, then solder in new RAM, in VERY tight spaces, and simply expect it to work?

This cannot be a legit request. And if it is, it is a very uninformed one.

Much easier to buy the rare PC laptop that can support 32Gigs of RAM, and make a hackintosh, than to mod a rMBP.

I think you're the troll here. My post literally outlines the previous posters not answering the OP's question, and then I go on to state that instead people just say he should get a different laptop. Which is exactly what you did. His request wasn't a troll. Just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done, or that someone else can't do it. That it's likely going to break the computer, or cause problems, fine, but that it can't be done. That's just ridiculous.

The OP hasn't been back to this thread in a while, maybe he moved on to the 32gb model... or maybe he got the answer from a more inviting forum. One where people tried to answer his question instead of sidestepping it.

 

[Count Blah]

I think you're the troll here. My post literally outlines the previous posters not answering the OP's question, and then I go on to state that instead people just say he should get a different laptop. Which is exactly what you did. His request wasn't a troll. Just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean it can't be done, or that someone else can't do it. That it's likely going to break the computer, or cause problems, fine, but that it can't be done. That's just ridiculous.

The OP hasn't been back to this thread in a while, maybe he moved on to the 32gb model... or maybe he got the answer from a more inviting forum. One where people tried to answer his question instead of sidestepping it.

The rMBP has been out since 2012. Do you not think this has been brought up before? The OP made it out like it was just some soldering, when it is anything but.

I'll admit, Three years of this being shot down has made me a little testy.

 

[Apple Maniac]

[Quote = "Intell, post: 19524456, miembro: 401897"]? ¿Cómo haría usted para retirar los chips actuales y su sustitución por otros más grandes [/ quote]

It depends on the plate. for example, if a model can have 32 or 16 GB of RAM, Apple designed a model of logic board only, and you put 16 gb free holes left and another filled all the gaps.

You can only increase ram if your model is the lower of the two, and dispose of these gaps in logic board. After you update the EFI with the right version to top model and go.

Nor is it so expensive and so difficult, if a technician with a certain level it is clear.

 

[Count Blah]

[Quote = "Intell, post: 19524456, miembro: 401897"]? ¿Cómo haría usted para retirar los chips actuales y su sustitución por otros más grandes [/ quote]

It depends on the plate. for example, if a model can have 32 or 16 GB of RAM, Apple designed a model of logic board only, and you put 16 gb free holes left and another filled all the gaps.

You can only increase ram if your model is the lower of the two, and dispose of these gaps in logic board. After you update the EFI with the right version to top model and go.

Nor is it so expensive and so difficult, if a technician with a certain level it is clear.

The next MBP I see with 32 Gigs of RAM, will be my first. Meaning, if it was viable, it would have been done many times over. So I contend that it is in fact, either very expensive, very difficult, or just plane old impossible to do.

But I fully support anyone attempting to seek out a brilliant technician to perform this 'never been accomplished' feat, that is apparently not so expensive, nor very difficult.

I shall not be holding my breath, however.

 

[simonsi]

Each doubling of RAM requires an additional address line to carry the addressing on the bus (that is how binary works). So if the bus was designed only wide enough for 16GB then it can not support 32GB, hardware limit, not modules or firmware.

So this will only be possible if the logic board was designed to support it at a very basic level.

TBH I'd expect most of the high-RAM use cases to be addressed by virtual RAM, RAM compression and SSDs.

 

[macenied]

Each doubling of RAM requires an additional address line to carry the addressing on the bus (that is how binary works). So if the bus was designed only wide enough for 16GB then it can not support 32GB, hardware limit, not modules or firmware.

So this will only be possible if the logic board was designed to support it at a very basic level.

TBH I'd expect most of the high-RAM use cases to be addressed by virtual RAM, RAM compression and SSDs.

The CPU is designed to support 32 GB so I doubt that the address lines are missing. Heck, even the 2010 C2D´s can handle 16 GB ( not soldered ). The question should be raised to Apple logicboard repair shops, who should be able to perform this kind of soldering day-in and day-out. However, it may only be interesting if you buy a 2nd hand rMBP 8 GB you want to upgrade. If you buy new, buy 16 or 32 GB right away. Interesting topic though.

In any case, it would be a complex task:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/157719/can-i-solder-more-memory-into-my-macbook-air

 

[dogslobber]

27" Imac for you

Sell it and use the money to buy a refurbed 2013 top end imac that'll take 32gb of ram and will out perform your macbook in every area other than the screen (but the size is much better). Make sure you get one with ssd or fusion though.

A 2011 21.5" iMac can take up to 32gb of ram. It's a superb machine and can be bought on eBay for 500 bucks.