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I am looking at docks now. Looks like the Caldigit TS3 is the one to go for. If I have a dual monitor setup I would consider a vertical Henge Dock to free up desk space. I have just got a 2018 MacBook Pro i9, 32bg RAM, 1TB SSD with Vega 20 is space grey. It sits on a Rain Design space grey mStand. At the moment I have my travel Satechi type C 3-port hub with ethernet.

https://satechi.net/collections/usb...usb-3-1-aluminum-3-port-hub-and-ethernet-port

I have a BenQ SW271 monitor connected by it's USC-C to USB-C cable. Now I am looking for a good hub with a card reader, gigabit ethernet, DisplayPort and a bunch of USB ports to connect a bunch of backup disks. Gigabit eithernet will be used to connect to a gigabit ethernet switch to connect to a couple of Qnap NAS drives. To get the most out of the BenQ I think a DisplayPort cable would give the best performance of 4k at 60Htz. So, I will probably get the TS3 Plus. Anyone had any problems accessing a NAS and a bunch of USB drives?
 
When I needed to replace my 2008 MBP in early 2013, I couldn't afford a new MBP, so I bought a refurbished late 2012 Mac mini i7 2.3 GHz with 4 GB of RAM and a 1 TB HDD to tide me over. I soon upgraded the RAM to 16 GB. In 2015, I bought a new 13" MBP with 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD. My plan was to sell the mini, for the same reason you mentioned: the simplicity of having only one computer. I bought a Henge Dock and planned to buy a 4K monitor once the prices dropped. I briefly considered getting a 27" iMac instead of a MBP, but I like the flexibility of being able to undock a laptop and use it anywhere.

I hesitated selling the mini for two reasons: 1) The 1 TB HDD allowed me to store all my files on the system drive, which was essential for Dropbox if I wanted to have everything stored locally as well as in the cloud. 2) The quad-core i7 processor was faster for certain tasks, such as video encoding. I'm glad I hesitated, because when OS 10.9 came out that fall, my mini upgraded without a problem -- but my MBP wouldn't. When it got to the end of the upgrade process, I got an "unknown error." I restored from my OS 10.8 Time Machine backup and tried two more times, with the same result. I couldn't find any information about what was happening. Finally, I decided to do a clean installation of OS 10.9 and reinstall everything from scratch. Fortunately, I was able to use my mini as a guide for all the apps I needed to install, how to organize my desktop, etc. Without that second computer, setting up my MBP would have taken a lot longer. The incident prompted me to better organize my digital life, though: I got 1Password and entered all my app passwords, serial numbers, and other information.

This past March, when Costco started selling a 28" Samsung 4K monitor for $300, I bought one. It works with my MBP just fine, but my mini won't drive it at 4K, and it looks a bit fuzzy at lower resolutions. Also, the 1 TB HDD was painfully slow by this time. I once again considered selling my mini, given how much people were still paying for the 2012 i7 quad-core models. After discussing it on this forum, though, I finally decided to keep it, for the two reasons I mentioned earlier, as well as for the practical consideration of having a backup computer in case my MBP fails for some reason. I bought a 120 GB SSD and an upgrade kit from OWC and created a 1.12 TB Fusion drive. It was like getting a brand-new computer.

So now I use my mini as a base station. I have all my legacy USB peripherals connected to it, so there's the minor convenience of being able to scan a document or import photos from my camera while my MBP is undocked elsewhere in the house, without having to put the MBP in the Henge Dock, wake it back up, perform the task, eject the external hard drives connected to the Henge Dock, and move the MBP back to wherever I was using it earlier. Also, the mini's 1080P monitor sits next to the 4K monitor that I use with my MBP. While I work on my docked MBP, I've been using the mini in the background to gradually rip our extensive DVD collection to hard drive. It's also good for doing other background tasks, such as video conversion, that would tax my MBP while I'm doing other work on it.

Once I figured out a good system (only two months ago!), I was able to eliminate most of the hassles involved with having two computers. First, I switched from Dropbox's 1 TB individual plan to Apple's 2 TB iCloud Drive family plan -- which I share with my wife, thus allowing me to discontinue her Dropbox 1 TB plan, as well. With the exception of my ripped DVDs, all of data files, my iTunes library, and my Photos library are stored locally on my mini, as well an in iCloud. On my MBP, I download files as needed from iCloud. It's easier than Dropbox, because I can see all of my files in Finder, even if they're not downloaded. With Dropbox, I had to log into my account via a web browser to see what files I had that weren't downloaded to my MBP. Anyway, I no longer having to worry about moving files around. In most cases, I add new files to my mini, and they're automatically uploaded to iCloud and available to my MBP (and my iPad and iPhone).

Once I got all my apps installed on both Macs (and every app I have can be installed on two or more computers), the only minor hassle is remembering to update both copies of an app when an update is released, and to install plugins (e.g., for my photo-editing programs) on both copies. For what services would you have to buy multiple subscriptions? Everything I've encountered allows use on multiple devices.

The only other piece of complexity involved in having two computers is the number of external hard drives I need. My DVD rips are on a 4 TB drive, cloned to another 4 TB drive. I have a bootable clone drive and a Time Machine backup drive for my MBP and for my mini. That's six drives total. Everything except my DVD rips is also in iCloud. Maybe that's overkill, but I'd rather have too many options for restoring than not enough.

So, bottom line: could I get by with only my MBP? Yes. However, the advantages of having two computers outweigh (for me) the $700 or so I could get for my 2012 Mac mini. Your considerations might be different, though. First, are either of your computers feeling slow enough for what you do that you legitimately need a newer model? Second, if you had only one computer, and it went down for some reason, how badly would it impact you until you were able to get it repaired or replaced? Third, consider how you store and back up your files. Unless you buy a new MBP with an SSD big enough to hold all your files, are you okay with not having everything available at all times locally? As far as I know from my research, both Dropbox and iCloud Drive require your files to be on the system drive, due to file corruption that can occur if an external drive disconnects during synchronization. When I was thinking of selling my mini, my solution was to have an external drive containing all my files, as well as copies in the Dropbox cloud. However, that meant manually synchronizing two sets of files, which soon became a pain. (If you don't already have all your files stored on your iMac's system drive, then you're already dealing with this issue in some way.)

Whatever you decide, good luck! And, despite everything I just said, I'm still tempted to sell my 2012 Mac mini while resale value remains high (and Mojave is the last version of macOS that likely will be supported), install a 1 TB SSD in my MBP to keep all my files on my system drive (those SSDs are down to $350-400 now), and buy a new Mac mini when my 2015 MBP starts feeling too slow for the (nonprofessional) photo and video work I do. I'd still keep my MBP for the less-taxing word-processing and WordPress work I do.
 
I like the clean look and convenience of the Henge dock, thinking about getting one to pair with my CalDigit TS3+.

Edit: Scratch that they don’t have Henge docks for 2018 MBP’s.
 
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I like the clean look and convenience of the Henge dock, thinking about getting one to pair with my CalDigit TS3+.

Edit: Scratch that they don’t have Henge docks for 2018 MBP’s.
It does support the 2018 (they have multiple models), I'm using it right now.
 
Thanks you guys, I was looking at the MBP with Retina Display from the drop down menu shows the old models/TB2 ports, but 2018 MBP’s are Retina. Anyway awesome they have it!
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I like the idea, but $180 Henge vs. a $40 BookArc is a pretty big difference.
I also have a BookArc using now but bought a new cooling pad and CalDigit TS3+ for my new 2018 MBP thinking it would be a problem using it in clam shell mode. But now I may do the Henge dock setup (after finding clam shell is ok), basically I’m in a mess at this moment still thinking to use the cooling pad as well :)
 
I also have a BookArc using now but bought a new cooling pad and CalDigit TS3+ for my new 2018 MBP thinking it would be a problem using it in clam shell mode. But now I may do the Henge dock setup (after finding clam shell is ok), basically I’m in a mess at this moment still thinking to use the cooling pad as well :)

Henge vs BookArc/others -- I think a lot of it depends on how much you're undocking/docking. Several times a day would make the Henge price more palatable for me -- but my usage is more docked-usually/mobile-occasionally -- so dealing with one cable isn't a big deal relative to the price difference.
 
I was thinking exactly that. I don’t undock my 13” MBP very often but that may change going to a 15”. I think I will try without Henge first and stay close to my current setup and watch for deals, sorry OP for interrupting thread.
 
All of my life I have used one desktop combined with one laptop. With the purchase of my 2018 MacBook Pro, I have transitioned to just a laptop and I will never go back. Although it was never difficult to sync my files, it was a pain because I do not like putting any of my files on the cloud. I would sync via a sync program, but every once in awhile, I would be missing a file that was on my desktop but not on my laptop.

No more...

One machine from here on out.

Joe
 
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All of my life I have used one desktop combined with one laptop. With the purchase of my 2018 MacBook Pro, I have transitioned to just a laptop and I will never go back. Although it was never difficult to sync my files, it was a pain because I do not like putting any of my files on the cloud. I would sync via a sync program, but every once in awhile, I would be missing a file that was on my desktop but not on my laptop.

No more...

One machine from here on out.

Joe

Just make sure you have a solid multi-layered versioning backup strategy that you actually execute upon.

Including proper, updated, off-site backups for the house-burned-down type scenario.

Local backups are simple enough of course. For offsite, I tried the "keep an external drive elsewhere" strategy. Great in theory but the reality was very sporadic. When I'd think about it I wasn't in a position to do anything, and when I was in a position to do something I wasn't thinking about it.

I switched to a cloud backup for offsite -- using a *long* custom encryption key -- so no issues with privacy. Maybe James Bond could crack 256-bit AES, but I'm not nearly interesting enough for that level of bother...
 
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You may be better off just using the laptop with no monitor connected, since Apple engineers only seem to test MacOS using 12 inch MacBooks. If you do connect a large external monitor, you may as well cover the entire screen with a sheet of cardboard and then cut out a section in the bottom left corner.

I use a MBP with a 30 inch, 2560x1600 monitor. The monitor is set to be the main display. I frequently use the laptop offsite with only the laptop screen. After I get back and connect the 30 inch monitor, this is what happens:

1. Finder windows that were in the top left corner or the center of the screen now open in the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor.
2. Applications such as Photos, News, Stocks which I put in the center of the laptop screen now open in the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor.
3. Documents from applications such as Keynote and Omnigraffle which were centered on the laptop screen and covered most of the laptop screen now open in the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor.
4. DMG disk image files for various downloaded applications frequently open in the in the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor by default.
5. DVD Player application in MacOS 10.14 Mojave keeps opening in the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor no matter how many times I move the application window.

When I use the laptop offsite, I am afraid to open applications or work on documents for fear that everything will be thrown into the bottom left corner of the 30 inch monitor once connected. When I return home and connect the 30 inch monitor, I am afraid to open any applications or documents for fear that everything will be thrown into the bottom left corner of the monitor. I have never seen an operating system handle window positioning as STUPIDLY as MacOS. I doubt that all the Mac application developers conspired to purposely put their applications in the bottom left corner of the screen. So I must conclude that this is a problem in MacOS that Apple needs to fix. I first noticed this irritating behavior in 10.10 Yosemite and it continues to this day.

If you think this looks annoying on a 30 inch monitor, think of all the fun you will have with a 38 inch or larger ultrawide monitor. It may help to put the monitor on a stand and position it so you are looking directly at the bottom left corner of the monitor. That is apparently what Apple engineers do.

Can everyone please share screenshots of your own experiences with this irritating, idiotic, brain-dead window positioning behavior in MacOS?


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Thanks you guys, I was looking at the MBP with Retina Display from the drop down menu shows the old models/TB2 ports, but 2018 MBP’s are Retina. Anyway awesome they have it!
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I also have a BookArc using now but bought a new cooling pad and CalDigit TS3+ for my new 2018 MBP thinking it would be a problem using it in clam shell mode. But now I may do the Henge dock setup (after finding clam shell is ok), basically I’m in a mess at this moment still thinking to use the cooling pad as well :)

Technically you will need something to give you all the ports. The Henge dock hardly has any ports. I'd say get the Book Arc and CalDigit TS3+. That is your best way to do it for ports and minimal setup.
 
Technically you will need something to give you all the ports. The Henge dock hardly has any ports. I'd say get the Book Arc and CalDigit TS3+. That is your best way to do it for ports and minimal setup.
At the moment I’m using a Book Arc with a 13” MBP. I have a CalDigit TS3+ still in the box waiting for my new 2018 15” MBP to arrive. I’m considering the Henge Vertical dock to use with the CalDigit TS3+ but not sure if I’ll undock often enough to be worth getting one. But I also have a new cooling pad to use like I see in your setup/photo, I may use it if the 15” MBP gets too hot in clam shell mode.

Also thinking to use this magnetic USB-C adapter with the Book Arc once they notify me they have one made for the 2018 MBP. This should help avoid scratching the port area, it's like a Magsafe.

https://www.vinpok.com/products/usb-c-magnetic-tip-for-vinpok-bolt
 
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At the moment I’m using a Book Arc with a 13” MBP. I have a CalDigit TS3+ still in the box waiting for my new 2018 15” MBP to arrive. I’m considering the Henge Vertical dock to use with the CalDigit TS3+ but not sure if I’ll undock often enough to be worth getting one. But I also have a new cooling pad to use like I see in your setup/photo, I may use it if the 15” MBP gets too hot in clam shell mode.

Also thinking to use this magnetic USB-C adapter with the Book Arc once they notify me they have one made for the 2018 MBP. This should help avoid scratching the port area, it's like a Magsafe.

https://www.vinpok.com/products/usb-c-magnetic-tip-for-vinpok-bolt

Yea, I moved away from that cooling pad to a rain mstand now. I didn’t see any difference in temps for the laptop with it honestly.
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Are you sure that does anything more than charging?

Yea that adapter I’ve read won’t do tb3. You have to plug the cable in if you plan to use the caldigit.
 
I'm curious why all the love for the CalDigit? There are lots of alternatives that do the same thing as far as I can tell in the $50 range instead of $300. What are you getting for the significantly higher price?
 
I'm curious why all the love for the CalDigit? There are lots of alternatives that do the same thing as far as I can tell in the $50 range instead of $300. What are you getting for the significantly higher price?

Since you don't cite any $50 alternatives, the better questions are (a) where are you finding $50 Thunderbolt3 docks, and (b) which of the things the TS3+ provides do they not provide? https://www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-3-dock/thunderbolt-station-3-plus/

Then compare what you need to do against what they provide and decide which is best for your situation. A basic USB Type C hub might be all you need if you're doing one HDMI monitor and ethernet or something. Also factor in whether the $50 hub includes a power supply of sufficient size to power any downstream devices as well as providing 60W or 85W to the MBP; if not that may be an additional cost.

For me, I wanted solid dual-monitor support, as well as SD card reader, gig-ether, multiple USB3 ports.
 
I'm curious why all the love for the CalDigit? There are lots of alternatives that do the same thing as far as I can tell in the $50 range instead of $300. What are you getting for the significantly higher price?

I've used 2 others and both were junk and didn't work properly. One was the Elgato TB3 dock. It couldn't keep my 15 MBP charged while slightly heavy load. It also had video issues.

Also used the Plugable one, and it just flat out was junk. It wasn't reliable, and wouldn't connect to my monitor half the time. It wouldn't again provide enough power as well.

The Caldigit TS3 and plus both have been solid with no issues.

Also, there are no TB3 docks that cost $50. Those are USB-C hubs not docks and they don't do near the same thing. You are limited on bandwidth with USB-C vs 40gb bandwidth with the Tb3, so you get way more speed, graphics, and ports on TB3 docks because of that. Those are good for when traveling and need ports.
 
Also thinking to use this magnetic USB-C adapter with the Book Arc once they notify me they have one made for the 2018 MBP. This should help avoid scratching the port area, it's like a Magsafe.

https://www.vinpok.com/products/usb-c-magnetic-tip-for-vinpok-bolt
Are you sure that does anything more than charging?
Yea that adapter I’ve read won’t do tb3. You have to plug the cable in if you plan to use the caldigit.
Thanks you guys I didn't even think about TB3 support for the quick release cable which is the whole point to have only one cable. Maybe the new one they're coming out with later will do it but I'm not holding my breath, back to the drawing board.
 
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+1 on the Henge dock! I loved it with my 2013 MBP, and love it even more with my 2018 MBP. The new fixed USB-C connectors mean I never worry about a "near miss" making a connector work JUST LOOSE ENOUGH to screw up connectivity.

I use the Plugable Thunderbolt 3 to Dual HDMI 2.0 Display Adapter (Amazon makes that look like a movie title) in one port and then a regular power adapter in the other. If I ever need more connectivity than that, there are (FINALLY) TB3 hubs that will provide their own power and another TB3 port to give you back the one the hub took away. And that still leaves the top two free! I sometimes also think about upgrading to a pair of 4k monitors. Maybe next year.
 
Before I purchased my TS3+, I did a fair amount of research and did not find a single dock which did everything the TS3+, much less something comparable for $50. Can you post up a link to a $50 dock that does everything the TS3+ does?

Joe


I'm curious why all the love for the CalDigit? There are lots of alternatives that do the same thing as far as I can tell in the $50 range instead of $300. What are you getting for the significantly higher price?
 
Thanks you guys I didn't even think about TB3 support for the quick release cable which is the whole point to have only one cable. Maybe the new one they're coming out with later will do it but I'm not holding my breath, back to the drawing board.

FWIW -- Honestly I don't find USC Type C to be any trouble at all to plug/unplug. Unlike USB Type B micro where I'm always f'zing around to figure out which end is up, the USBC cords are simple and easy in my experience (3+ years with a 2015 rMB12). Not as sexy as the magsafe from years of prior Macs, but I don't find I miss it at all.
 
FWIW -- Honestly I don't find USC Type C to be any trouble at all to plug/unplug. Unlike USB Type B micro where I'm always f'zing around to figure out which end is up, the USBC cords are simple and easy in my experience (3+ years with a 2015 rMB12). Not as sexy as the magsafe from years of prior Macs, but I don't find I miss it at all.
You are right about USB-C being easier, good point. I've been having to mark the top side of other USB cables with a drop of nail polish and I have to have different colors for black cables and white cables :) It works good but hopefully I don't have to do it as much anymore.
 
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I have an iMac 27 and a macbook pro both around late 2016 bot score about the same on Geekbench 4 around 4400 on single core and 15000 on multi core

iMac is i5, 24gb ram, fusion drive and MacBook Pro has i7, 16gb ram, solid drive

iMac seems slower especially on boot, and disk search, not sure if the difference is also done by the fact that iMac is loaded with CCC, time machine and other stuff running in background but I kind of suppose that the main difference in speed is the disk type

since I don't really use that much my MacBook Pro I was thinking to sell my iMac and use the MacBook Pro as a desktop replacement

I work 8 ( and more ) hours a day at my desk

do you think would be a good choice?
can macbook have issue in long term if I use it closed ( without the monitor open)?
 
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